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Brilliant ! A very assured,confident and articulate leader. He is streets ahead of Cameron.
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wheels falling off conservative campaign
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Yep
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/19/general-election-2015-lynton-crosby-designated-bastard-doesnt-work-tories-panic-armando-iannucci?CMP=share_btn_tw Armando Ianucci in guardian has some harsh words for them this is charlatanism pure and simple. David Cameron is indulging in basic quackery, trying to sell you stuff he knows doesn’t work. He’s doing it with our money and he’s conjuring with people’s lives. We know there’s no magic; the money will come from the cuts and deficit reductions and benefit targets and financial squeezes on those Cameron knows won’t be voting for him anyway. It’s the bastardly misuse of the public purse and the final proof, if any were needed, that he is unfit to lead his country and his party unfit to govern. |
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We know there’s no magic; the money will come from the cuts and deficit reductions and benefit targets and financial squeezes on those Cameron knows won’t be voting for him anyway.
As opposed to taking it off people who won't vote Labour and bribing those who will. |
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Remind us again what was Labour's immigration policy? Ah yes I remember, drag them in to rub the right's noses in it.
Remember that boys? |
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Did you watch tonight's interview ?
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I didn't. What is he selling and how much will it cost?
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You disappoint me. You could have learnt something. Bet you'll watch next weeks programme though.
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What would Ed have taught me? How to lie convincingly? Tony Blair did it first and better.
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We all see what we want to see.
As this campaign has gone on, Miliband has appeared a bit less of an insincere plank / a better actor. I trust his party to do better for the economy next time about as much as the parole board accepts that Ian Huntley will be a better caretaker. |
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What would Ed have taught me? How to lie convincingly? Tony Blair did it first and better.
And thats Eds biggest problem. He might be a sincere, honest, clever person, who would make a very good PM, but he has to convince people that he is not going to follow in the footsteps of the worst PM in living memory (and that is quite an achievement given Thatchers legacy) |
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You're right about us seeing what we want to see roger. Being honest would he really do that much worse a job? I don't know. It's Balls who does me in. I notice they've kept him in a dark room somwhere.
I certainly don't see a great deal of sincerity in Milliband's stage managed performances though. From badgering audience members to tell him their name (a bit creepy) to fixing the camera with a steely stare and rictus grin (it was as if he was sending me a message that the boys would be round for my wallet later). |
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Oh I agree Ee
It's just that at the start of this Eistedfodd, he made Bob Monkhouse look sincere. I think the Labour PR weasels have given him some intensive schooling and now he's gone from insincere to merely wooden. |
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Bob Monkhouse. That motherfrucker could slide under a locked door.
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Eeternaloptimist 20 Apr 15 22:53
You're right about us seeing what we want to see roger. Being honest would he really do that much worse a job? I don't know. It's Balls who does me in. I notice they've kept him in a dark room somwhere. I certainly don't see a great deal of sincerity in Milliband's stage managed performances though. From badgering audience members to tell him their name (a bit creepy) to fixing the camera with a steely stare and rictus grin (it was as if he was sending me a message that the boys would be round for my wallet later). Old hat. Keep up, we're discussing tonight's interview. You know, the one you didn't watch. Catch it on iplayer. Assuming you know how to. |
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To be fair cameron got shafted by evan.
Ed just got a mild rimming. |
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Hardly. Evans tried, but quickly gave up. Resorted to asking bloody stupid questions. They failed too.
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* Evan
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Isn't he the fully paid up luvvie who looks like Nookie Bear?
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Armando Ianucci (referring to David Cameron) wrote in The Guardian:
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Facts telling the Emperor how great his new suit looks here. Miliband gave a typically Millibandesque performance. If you like him you'll still vote for him. If you don't you won't.
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Surely most Labour supporters don't like him, though, the man comes across as insincere as a double-glazing salesman. The party would have a significantly better chance of election with somebody else at its helm... anybody else in fact, except Ed Balls.
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Or Diane Abbot.
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Or Yvette Cooper.
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Or Harriet Harman.
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Anyone else, though, would be better.
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Except Gordon Brown.
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Or Andy Burnham.
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Or Caroline Flint.
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They should have asked david Miliband to take the reins about six months ago in my view. Labour probably would have won.
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I think they would be home and hosed Poker.
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Except you all would have been screaming he's too much out of the Tony Blair mould. And you would have been correct. Which is why he wasn't chosen as the Labour leader. But Ed 's of the a' right stuff'
Get used to him guys. He's your next Prime Minister |
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Not convincing and always looks angry like he's going to break a blood vessel by putting too juch into everything and let's not forget Balls and the mess they left which seems to have been conveniently forgotten. Always been a Labour man but I simply cannot have him. Labour are in because everything else is falling down. Cannot understand the Tories game plan because is non - effective.
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All this stuff with ISIS in iraq and stuff I blame the labour party, for that reason I am out.
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what is Tory game plan? they are heading for a loss, just watching it happen, no fight
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Focusing on Miliband way too much - we get it, however he is improving re his media persona (and BTW Cameron not appearing on the last televised debate was a spectacular own goal IMO).
Classic 'playing the man and not the ball' and now this negativity regarding a possible Labour SNP link makes the Tories look like they've nothing positive to say about their time in power. Ditch the negativity is my advice. |
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need to step up time is running out
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or Douglas Alexander, Pokermonster.
Shocking omission. |
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All this stuff with ISIS in iraq and stuff I blame the labour party, for that reason I am out.
Rob says stuff the Labour Party over Iraq, but it would have happened with the Tories in power. I am sure Miliband is more of a pacifist than the Christian/Catholic fanatics of days gone by. |