Miliband interview

wheels falling off conservative campaign

Yep

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/19/general-election-2015-lynton-crosby-designated-bastard-doesnt-work-tories-panic-armando-iannucci?CMP=share_btn_tw

Armando Ianucci in guardian has some harsh words for them

this is charlatanism pure and simple. David Cameron is indulging in basic quackery, trying to sell you stuff he knows doesn’t work. He’s doing it with our money and he’s conjuring with people’s lives. We know there’s no magic; the money will come from the cuts and deficit reductions and benefit targets and financial squeezes on those Cameron knows won’t be voting for him anyway. It’s the bastardly misuse of the public purse and the final proof, if any were needed, that he is unfit to lead his country and his party unfit to govern.

We know there’s no magic; the money will come from the cuts and deficit reductions and benefit targets and financial squeezes on those Cameron knows won’t be voting for him anyway.

As opposed to taking it off people who won't vote Labour and bribing those who will.

Remind us again what was Labour's immigration policy? Ah yes I remember, drag them in to rub the right's noses in it.

Remember that boys?

Did you watch tonight's interview ?

I didn't. What is he selling and how much will it cost?

You disappoint me. You could have learnt something. Bet you'll watch next weeks programme though.

What would Ed have taught me? How to lie convincingly? Tony Blair did it first and better.

We all see what we want to see.

As this campaign has gone on, Miliband has appeared a bit less of an insincere plank / a better actor.

I trust his party to do better for the economy next time about as much as the parole board accepts that Ian Huntley will be a better caretaker.

What would Ed have taught me? How to lie convincingly? Tony Blair did it first and better.

And thats Eds biggest problem. He might be a sincere, honest, clever person, who would make a very good PM, but he has
to convince people that he is not going to follow in the footsteps of the worst PM in living memory (and that is quite an achievement given Thatchers legacy)

You're right about us seeing what we want to see roger. Being honest would he really do that much worse a job? I don't know. It's Balls who does me in. I notice they've kept him in a dark room somwhere.

I certainly don't see a great deal of sincerity in Milliband's stage managed performances though. From badgering audience members to tell him their name (a bit creepy) to fixing the camera with a steely stare and rictus grin (it was as if he was sending me a message that the boys would be round for my wallet later).

Oh I agree Ee

It's just that at the start of this Eistedfodd, he made Bob Monkhouse look sincere.

I think the Labour PR weasels have given him some intensive schooling and now he's gone from insincere to merely wooden.

Bob Monkhouse. That motherfrucker could slide under a locked door.

Eeternaloptimist     20 Apr 15 22:53 
You're right about us seeing what we want to see roger. Being honest would he really do that much worse a job? I don't know. It's Balls who does me in. I notice they've kept him in a dark room somwhere.

I certainly don't see a great deal of sincerity in Milliband's stage managed performances though. From badgering audience members to tell him their name (a bit creepy) to fixing the camera with a steely stare and rictus grin (it was as if he was sending me a message that the boys would be round for my wallet later).



Old hat.
Keep up, we're discussing tonight's interview. You know, the one you didn't watch.
Catch it on iplayer. Assuming you know how to.

To be fair cameron got shafted by evan.
Ed just got a mild rimming.

Hardly. Evans tried, but quickly gave up. Resorted to asking bloody stupid questions. They failed too.

* Evan

Isn't he the fully paid up luvvie who looks like Nookie Bear?

Armando Ianucci (referring to David Cameron) wrote in The Guardian:

It’s the bastardly misuse of the public purse and the final proof, if any were needed, that he is unfit to lead his country and his party unfit to govern.

I find it quite laughable for any Labour supporter to criticise a Conservative government's handling of the public purse given their own feckless stewardship last time around.  "I'm sorry to tell you that there's no money left" was the parting message from Labour's chief secretary to the treasury when he left office in 2010.  I like some of Mr Ianucci's work, but here he displays a level of chutzpah not seen since Lizzie Borden threw herself upon the mercy of the court as an orphan.

Facts telling the Emperor how great his new suit looks here. Miliband gave a typically Millibandesque performance. If you like him you'll still vote for him. If you don't you won't.

Surely most Labour supporters don't like him, though, the man comes across as insincere as a double-glazing salesman.  The party would have a significantly better chance of election with somebody else at its helm... anybody else in fact, except Ed Balls.

Or Diane Abbot.

Or Yvette Cooper.

Or Harriet Harman.

Anyone else, though, would be better.

Except Gordon Brown.

Or Andy Burnham.

Or Caroline Flint.

They should have asked david Miliband to take the reins about six months ago in my view.  Labour probably would have won.

I think they would be home and hosed Poker.

Except you all would have been screaming he's too much out of the Tony Blair mould. And you would have been correct. Which is why he wasn't chosen as the Labour leader. But Ed 's of the a' right stuff'

Get used to him guys. He's your next Prime Minister

Not convincing and always looks angry like he's going to break a blood vessel by putting too juch into everything and let's not forget Balls and the mess they left which seems to have been conveniently forgotten. Always been a Labour man but I simply cannot have him. Labour are in because everything else is falling down. Cannot understand the Tories game plan because is non - effective.

All this stuff with ISIS in iraq and stuff I blame the labour party, for that reason I am out.

what is Tory game plan? they are heading for a loss, just watching it happen, no fight

Focusing on Miliband way too much - we get it, however he is improving re his media persona (and BTW Cameron not appearing on the last televised debate was a spectacular own goal IMO).

Classic 'playing the man and not the ball' and now this negativity regarding a possible Labour SNP link makes the Tories look like they've nothing positive to say about their time in power.

Ditch the negativity is my advice.

need to step up time is running out

or Douglas Alexander, Pokermonster.

Shocking omission.

All this stuff with ISIS in iraq and stuff I blame the labour party, for that reason I am out.

Rob says stuff the Labour Party over Iraq, but it would have happened with the Tories in power. I am sure Miliband is more of a pacifist than the Christian/Catholic fanatics of days gone by.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9438172/ed-milibands-biggest-critics-don...

Ye Gods, what a catastrophic thread.

There's no way back I'm afraid on here for someone made such an appallingly inaccurate prediction about the Election outcome and Miliband's performance in particular.

Miliband delivered even LESS seats that Gordon Brown.  No, please don't laugh Mrs.

Apparently, after reading this thread, cyclist L. Armstrong is now said to be feeling a whole lot better about himself and the way he completely f****d up.

Judas Iscariot apparently also feels a lot better for reading this thread. He thought his misjudgements were timeless and appalling, but he's said to be "feeling a lot brighter" now.

There's something to be admired about a man who comes along and holds his hands up and admits that they made a complete and utter ar5e of themselves. You can even warm to them if they have the insight to say that never again will they allow themselves to fall into the trap of confusing what they want to happen for what is actually likely to happen.

What did happen to facts?

Never thought I'd be writing this, but apparently even GORDON BROWN is 'on top of the world' after reading this thread. Close confidantes say they thought they'd never see him be quite so cheerful again.

Brown used to think he'd made the biggest political campaign c**k-up of all time when he used the word 'bigot' to describe a voter with justifiable concerns on Open Door Immigration, but he realises now it was small beer in comparison with Miliband cosying up to Brand, Labour bowing to Islam by segregating a meeting by gender and then this thread describing Miliband as "A very assured,confident and articulate leader. He is streets ahead of Cameron".

Was that before or after he did a spot of break dancing on the steps during the debate?

The country benefits from a strong opposition.  In choosing such an abysmal leader the Labour party not only let themselves down, they let the British public down.  God help us all if they display a similar lack of judgement next time around and pick somebody like Yvette Cooper or Chuka Umunna.

If and when my time is up and I end up at the Pearly Gates or the other place and I'm asked what are the funniest things about life on earth there will be so many but one of them will be remembering all those puffed up left wing gobshiites who have come on here spouting some old bolllox only to disappear like their ar5e was on fire when it all went t1ts up. They never learn. Laugh at yourself and admit you made yourself look like a complete bobbies helmet and people would have to have hearts of stone not to laugh with you. But no, they puff themselves up to their full 5 feet two and a half inches and storm off indignantly as if someone has just rattled their wife and better than them. All with used shiit paper dangling from their trousers.

Face it chaps. There is no dignified way to get out of looking like a plum. Laugh and the world laughs with you.

Please, please, please let it be Chuka. I promise not to have a ham shank for a week. Not even a cheeky one. It'll be like Christmas every day with that complete rod preening around the nation like he's got two dicks which he just keeps for best. Let it be him.

At the moment Tristram Hunt or Dan Jarvis probably look the best of a weak bunch as far as leadership candidates go, the fact that they're relatively unknown standing them in good stead.

Jarvis is already a non-runner. He said something about his campaign being destroyed from the moment Pandy tipped him up.

I hope it's not Chuka, EO.  Britain needs strong opposition otherwise the power goes to the buggers' heads.

Chuka Umunna with Diane Abbot as Chancellor anyone? 

I feel sick.

You know how folk often claim that if so-and-so won the election they would leave the country?  Well, I live in America half the time but if Ed Miliband had won I'd be forced to stay here as I would be too embarrassed to go anywhere else.

I feel sick.

Oh come on, you'd love it surely. The Dream Ticket and all that.

Interviewers would ask them what is the acceptable level of immigration, and what should be the UK population ceiling. In reply they'd just stammer some drivel about how "immigration has culturally enriched the UK" and get a standing ovation from a BBC planted crowd.

Just for the team you understand but to keep her away from Number 11 I'd let her sit on my face.

Good man.  Iain Macleod had to do something similar in 1970.

Eeternaloptimist   
11 May 15 01:53 
Just for the team you understand but to keep her away from Number 11 I'd let her sit on my face.

I wouldn't stoop that low to save the facking planet.

Money Tree, homefortea
and Facts makes three
where could they be 
Facts doth hate the tory toff
with any luck
they've all fukt off

Poetry. Sheer poetry.

And, lest it even need to be said, far far better than anything the current dismal Laureate has ever constructed.

A very assured,confident and articulate leader. He is streets ahead of  Cameron.

wheels falling off conservative campaign

But Ed 's of the a' right stuff'.
Get used to him guys. He's your next Prime Minister

what is Tory game plan? they are heading for a loss, just watching it happen, no fight

Classic thread

OP clearly has had a mare here.

Very amusing thread...Labour really knows how to pick a leader ...Foot,Kinnock,Brown,Milliband;all unelectable

I suppose Ian Duncan Smith and Michael Howard were a cut above all of them

Agree IDS poor choice,but bit unfair to Howard who was rather parachuted in and in a short period of time running the party managed to significantly increase the number of Conservative seats in the 2005 election.

Because half a dozen grasshoppers under a fern make the field ring with their importunate chink, whilst thousands of great cattle, reposed beneath the shadow of the British oak, chew the cud and are silent, pray do not imagine that those who make the noise are the only inhabitants of the field.

Another quote from the same man

“Nothing turns out to be so oppressive and unjust as a feeble government.”

If and when my time is up and I end up at the Pearly Gates or the other place and I'm asked what are the funniest things about life on earth there will be so many but one of them will be remembering all those puffed up left wing gobshiites who have come on here spouting some old bolllox only to disappear like their ar5e was on fire when it all went t1ts up.

I reckon if we could find that pledge stone we'd find them all hiding behind it

“Nothing turns out to be so oppressive and unjust as a feeble government.”

yep, the spectre of a Miliband/Jimmy Krankie coalition did seem to scare a lot of people.

At least Facts didn't do anything crazy.

























































Like vote Green.

Good read

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http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-fury-of-the-elites-when-the-little-people-reject-labour/16964#.VVD9RflVhBd

Kinnocks rant on election night was the perfect example,when the left lose its not because they're wrong its because they've been smeared or the populous brainwashed.

Or he fell in the sea.

Interesting article;confirms my detestation of Polly Toynbee and others of the metropolitan elite who are terrified of what the Conservatives are going to do to the bbc.

Liz Kendall, Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper all thought they'd been having a bad time of it lately, what with them showing miles behind Corbyn in this week's Labour Leadership polls. However, I gather they've just been reading this thread and are reported to "laughing uncontrollably" and said to be "looking 10 years younger".

They thought THEY had suffered a painful public humiliation.

Poor old Mrs Unfortunately-Named-Cooper.

First Labour beaten out of sight at the 2015 General Election, the electorate possibly having a distaste for Segregrated Labour Meetings, simultaneous with Labour's Pink Bus going around the country patronising women.

Then failing to even get near to something called Jeremy Corbyn in the Labour leadership contest.

Now a public laughing-stock for not only wanting to Welcome Refugees, but rather like our very own Mohammed Ian Factoids, claiming she would offer a home to them. Needless to say, number of refugees accommodated to date = ZERO.


Anyway, despite this series of public humiliations, my political sources allege that this very personification of the Modern Labour Elite has been reading this thread and 'brightened up considerably'.

Reportedly splitting her sides knowing that there was one person who said of Miliband that we had better "get used to him guys…he's your next Prime Minister".

Facts      21 Apr 15 05:17
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Get used to him guys. He's your next Prime Minister



Oh dear, Chit Chat's very own Nostradamus, Ian Mohammed, coming up a fraction short again there.

Still, Ed Miliband has now found his place on Allah's green earth. He is now the Face of Man-Flu for American television. 

Get used to it guys.

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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/us-news-show-uses-ed-miliband-photo-for-generic-man-with-flu-image-a3424271.html

Yet for all Miliband's limitations, he still looks miles better than Corbyn.