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By:
dustybin
When: 08 Apr 15 15:54
Java

But it was all to prove a delusion. The first 'New Labour' government, swept to power in May 1997 with a Commons majority of 179, was to prove very different from any previous Labour government. Indeed, in many ways - its belief in market forces and its commitment to globalisation, for example - it would be virtually indistinguishable from its Tory predecessor.

http://www.educationengland.org.uk/history/chapter10.html
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Apr 15 15:54
the workshy just lack a competitive spirit .

not everyone cares about getting on ,that's evident in the school years

if EVERYONE was competitive life would be truly awful
By:
Coachbuster
When: 08 Apr 15 15:58
...just reminds me of a funny time at school when i had a physics test - really couldn't be bothered ,didn't care and was  pretty rubbish at it anyway (like most subjects) -so simply put down any letter A-E in the Muti choice boxes and spent the rest of the test time in a daydream Happy

somehow managed to still score somewhere around 35% (from memory) and didn't even come bottom   Laugh
By:
Java
When: 08 Apr 15 16:03
"its belief in market forces and its commitment to globalisation, for example - it would be virtually indistinguishable from its Tory predecessor. "

Agreed.  Now what has that got to do with getting 50% of each generation to go to university and get limited degrees?
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Apr 15 16:11
I was referring to the continued deregulation of sectors which is a tory ideology.
Old polytechnicis charging fees for s hitty degrees arguably helped nobody and indebted the individual
By:
dustybin
When: 08 Apr 15 16:32
If you want deeper clarification;

The economy it's self is the major winner of having well educated individuals and so could be argued that should be state funded.
Passing the cost on to the individual and minimising state interference is indeed a tory ideology, in fact pre Blair the tories were indeed planning to do just that, just they lost the election.

So that answers your question as to how I came to such a conclusion.
Creating environments with watered down degrees and indebtedness doesnt exactly help those from less privileged backgrounds. They come out with naff degrees and struggle just as they would have without going, except now have the luxury of having to pay for the privileged once they start earning over a given salary, which is far from certain.
By:
Platini
When: 08 Apr 15 16:45
workcamps ? No.

but they should bring in compulsory National Service for the youts. Cool
By:
treetop
When: 08 Apr 15 19:32
Talk to most of the lads in a workmen's club and they would say bring back work camps but they live alongside the shirkers unlike most of the Labour party handwringers.
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