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if so, they should be able to override settings and return aircraft to correct altitude too, and perhaps land it if necessary
and wait for hackers to play games |
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So when exactly did pilot leave ? and when did he return ?
how did he know pilot would not gain access with the axe and take full control ? is the same data available for MH370 MT ? |
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mh370 squitter data was disabled from within the aircraft
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how did he know pilot would not gain access with the axe and take full control ?
The door is virtually bombproof and would give him enough time. |
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*how did he not know the captain would not gain access before plane crashed ,
i believe but not 100% sure he could have just switched the fuel off ? |
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not much help a bombproof door on a plane imo
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Right ok let's put it this way.
The captain asks the co-pilot to take the controls and we're pretty sure he then leaves the flight deck. During the few minutes the captain is gone the co-pilot becomes incapacitated. This has to have happened literally within seconds of the captain leaving because almost immediately the altitude is reset. He's had the wherewithal to amend the altitude but not the speed. As he comes to he sees huge ruddy mountain peaks all around him but neither does he amend course. So he's had a seizure, panic attack or whatever, come to and reset the altitude dial all within a couple of minutes at most whilst failing to reduce speed or amend course. Then to compound matters the returning captain, would you believe it, forgets the right entry code to the cockpit so he can't come and save the day. Is that any more feasible than what actually has been said? |
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a dont see too many probs with that from what we know at the minute ....and find it extraordinary that they have put the slant on it they have.
if the FDR confirms he then denied access its a no more questions from me but until then i dont see the conclusive proof ,they also put up a fighter jet ,what did he see ,what did its cameras pick up ? they would have good cameras on them and they will have seen in cockpit ,they will know who was in there and if he was looking about ect |
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It is not only the pilot who had to forget the security code but other crew members as well, unless of course the door was bolted from the inside.
All of this memory loss as the co-pilot accidently changes the altitude & has a medical event causing him to lose conciousness |
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after an incorrect entry attempt its a wait 5 mins,code changes every day ,in a panic the captain could have made a mistake ,not imposs imo
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being an expericanced pro i admit its highly unlikely and if in doubt he would have asked for confirmation before attempting ,but the FDR could if it records everything give that info and confirm access was denied
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am not saying he forgot ,i am saying he could have used incorrect code and been automatically locked out for five ,then he starts battering door with axe ...not inconceivable but i agree highly unlikely .FDR needed
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thats why i asked earlier what normal protocol was bewteen staff when returning from loo .a couple of knocks ,or always and without fail use keypad ?
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it was not one single thing that sunk the titanic ,it was a combination of failings
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Ummmm bread, the Atlantic Ocean pouring into the f***ing big hole caused by a collision with an iceberg was pretty significant "single thing" in the sinking of the titanic,
& I guess a trusted pilot wanting to crash was a pretty significant . |
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the ships was design flawed and actually helped it break in two ,the captain was under pressure to make a good time even though they knew about the icebergs ,the rivets were too brittle and shattered on impact ,all would have been saved if they had enough lifeboats ect ect ect
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Yep bread, and I'm sure your friends with the tin foil hats, were claiming that the U.S. government sank the Titanic to stop Russia getting control of the oil. Ect ect ect
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don't call breadnbutter a nutter just 'cos he's listing - it always looks raving when someone lists. He's right on every point. I've even seen an entire programme about how 2nd grade steel - instesad of 1st grade (which would not have failed so easily) - was used in the rivets
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the titanic is actually used by H+S to explain how many things go together to create an accident that has massive consequences .
not sure about the tin foil hats Mex ,a use a steel hat ,much safer |
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am not suggesting anything untoward about the causes of this crash or the titanic sinking ,not sure what your getting at ,am just questioning the sequence of events that led to this plane crashing and whether there is clear evidence the Co-p was alone in the cockpit and if he was conscious .ok ?
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i agree on one point b&b, they do need the fdr to fully conclude all of the activity that the people in control of this aircraft undertook
but, based on what has been released to the public as it stands there was nothing wrong with the aircraft,manual intervention took place to reduce its altitude and no action was taken to prevent that once the descent began, no course change, no radio, other than according to the french prosecutor the locking of the cockpit door the other evidence of a co pilot with a sick note, previous depression issues and who told his girlfriend (who had just dumped him) that one day he would be remembered are still circumstantial that said on the day in question he was not perhaps fit to fly according to his doctor and his airline were not aware of this |
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and yes u think they are 100% sure who was in the cockpit and who was outside from the cvt, what they do not know is what his state of mind or health was at that point
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*i think sry
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Bread, are you aware that the Titanic sinking has F all to do with a plane crashing into a French mountain?
It may be difficult to find eye witnesses to answer your question about being 100% certain the co pilot was alone and crashed the plane. Are you aware that those eyewitnesses died when the plane hit a mountain at 200mph? You are going to have to draw conclusions from the evidence which has not been destroyed. There are radar readings of the plane's course. There is a cockpit voice recorder. Background evidence regarding the health of the co pilot ect ect ect. If you want to insult those who were murdered by making up an evidence free story of how the co pilot accidently changed course, had a stroke, & the rest of the crew forgetting the door code then go ahead. If you get your kicks from this sort of disaster porn then carry on posting your evidence free theories. |
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ok cheers guys,am gunna leave it at that ,one last question though
if the protocol for one pilot alone is to put oxygen mask on in case of a rapid decompress ,did he do this and what is the system for supplying the oxygen ? is it on demand and he is breathing through that mask or is it only if a decompress happens and sensors auto switch o2 on ? a horrible accident whatever the cause and a lot of people going through sheer hell ,there lifes will never be the same ,my thoughts are with them . read the thread mex ,a never said anything of the kind ,your twisting it about there and if you dont agree with talking about such things dont contribute and dont read but dont tell me what a can say and talk about on the internet .OK ? |
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Good idea Bread - best that you do run away.
I'm sure you will be back the next time many people are killed with another evidence free theory of how they died. |
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chit chat at its best
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M T wallet • March 28, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
Sky report now says medical treatment was for vision problems. That would be the end of his career as a pilot if it is true. One would have thought he would have noticed a very large mountain in front of him Still seems to me like suicide/revenge at the world |
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Depression explains his own death..but he has killed 149 others in the process?
For that he must surely feel some grudge or that he has been made a victim of some terrible injustice, this is payback or he is an incredibly callous man..he has murdered 149 innocent people. His girlfriend dumping him may explain his depression....but not the rest of it, there must surely be another reason to do such a terrible thing I would hope the truth of this comes out |
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His girl friend is suggesting he said he was going to do this in some way...seems a pity she did not mention it to anyone,
ie the airline. |
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We'll all have forgotten about it in a day or two, unless we were directly affected by this (nap)
I've not wasted time reading through the thread. |
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I suffer from depression but i still never quite understand the depths these guys will sink to , they're just sick in the head imo
a Pilot is considered the best job to have in any country , it's top of any chart table , so not sure they suffer from the same depression as I have for 20 years now , yes I've considered suicide but suicide's a very personal thing for most people , this is nothing less than organized mass murder , just makes me how may more pilots will do the same in future , it must be one hell of a stressful job  |
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Trust you to try to turn it round to your problems. you sad, sick trolling coont
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New rules are coming in to ensure that this will never happen again. So some good has come out of it.
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I've never seen you make a meaningful post in your entire forum existence , nothing but a Gob & an arseh0le , one of them types that scurry around with no neck
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Your opinion means nothing to me, or any other right thinking person.
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moony, do you think that your self-pity posts are meaningful? You sad tool. Still, a lot of people fall for your sh!t so fair play to you, in a strange way.
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they're not posted in self pity
I'm just realistic about life that's all , we can't all afford to sit around in our slippers watching Question time while sorting through our holiday pics for our superuser mates to upload at 4 in the morning  |
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you'll miss an hour & won't be up ready for church in the morning at this rate !
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