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By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 02 Apr 15 01:18
Bondage Fetish ^^
By:
lfc1971
When: 02 Apr 15 01:18
There would then be no need for a locked cockpit door.
By:
lfc1971
When: 02 Apr 15 01:19
and certain passengers may even enjoy it...yes?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 Apr 15 01:21
topless  thonged trolly dollys as well ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 02 Apr 15 01:23
don't be silly...that would cost extra.
By:
lfc1971
When: 02 Apr 15 01:24
maybe in first class.
By:
lfc1971
When: 02 Apr 15 01:27
very good for the pilots wellbeing also, quite sure no aircraft would be crashed under such circumstances.
By:
Facts
When: 02 Apr 15 01:55
Regarding the need for pilots to use the toilet. What did ( say) crews of bombers do during WW2 ?
By:
ebulGery
When: 02 Apr 15 02:09
probably sent it down with the bombs
By:
akabula
When: 02 Apr 15 02:29
Bombs away was a euphemism.
By:
mad mad moon
When: 02 Apr 15 02:55
I was on a flight a few years ago when a passenger had a parachute on.
Not sure what he thought would happen if there was an emergency?
Even if there was some way of opening the door to let him out, did he really think that the
other passengers wouldnt be surrounding him trying to rip it off his back.
By:
Facts
When: 02 Apr 15 10:10
Really ? Surely wouldn't have been allowed. Would look suspiciously like a backpack I.e terrorist bomb threat.
By:
Blackrock
When: 02 Apr 15 10:59
If a pilot/co pilot wants to down a plane, there is very little that can stop them.

Replacements in the cockpit for toilet breaks would be a waste of time. The suicide pilot has the element of surprise on their side, and can choose the time to strike.

The door must be reinforced to keep out would be terrorists. Airlines must have more stringent health checks on their pilots, but that still wouldnt guarantee a nutjob didnt con his way through it.
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 02 Apr 15 11:24
I'd have thought moving the lockable door back a few feet, installing a small toilet cubicle in the space and having a door into the c-pit that you can't lock would do for all but the most determined of suicidal pilots. In a spinning dive the pilot in the toilet is unlikely to be able to get out though due to centrifugal forces.

Facts, my Lancaster book has a schematic that shows an Elsan toilet just forward of where the rear gunner sits, but mostly they would have used milk bottles. Though the plane had autopilot I doubt the pilot would ever have left the seat other than to bail out, perhaps if he'd taught the flight engineer how to hold the plane steady and level - it's a long and difficult way to and back from the Elsan and all their lives would be at stake for a few minutes. On fighters they had tubes and a funnel for the purpose.
By:
naydam
When: 02 Apr 15 11:32
Having a toilet in the cockpit would certainly deter some terrorists from crashing a 'plane.
It's very insulting to the prophet to turn up in Paradise covered in sh1t and piss!
By:
duncan idaho
When: 02 Apr 15 12:11
anyone know the number of times a 'mentally ill' pilot has taken his plane down with him in the history of commercial flying (over a century now)?
By:
elise
When: 02 Apr 15 12:31
there have been 3 or 4 in recent years that they are pretty sure were pilot suicide, but go back over 30 years the recorders were not as advanced or even installed on all aircraft so they often wouldn't know
By:
tictacman1
When: 02 Apr 15 12:57
By pilots in control of whole flight



Crash date

Murderer

Commercial

Flight

Fatalities

Theories

Aircraft

Refs




September 26, 1976

Pilot

General aviation

Aeroflot

12
(pilot, 11 on the ground)

The pilot flew the aircraft from Novosibirsk-Severny Airport and crashed the aircraft into an apartment complex where his ex-wife lived. His ex-wife was not killed in the crash.






January 5, 1977

Pilot

General aviation

Connellan air disaster

5
(pilot, 4 on the ground)

A disgruntled former employee of Connellan Airways (Connair) flew a Beechcraft Baron into the Connair complex at the Alice Springs Airport, Northern Territory, Australia







August 22, 1979

Pilot

General aviation

Stolen aircraft

4
(pilot, 3 on the ground)

A 23-year-old aircraft mechanic working at Bogota El Dorado Airport stole a Hawker-Siddeley HS-748 and crashed it into a Bogota suburb.






February 9, 1982

Pilot

Commercial flight

Japan Airlines Flight 350

24

Pilot engaged number 2 and 3 engines' thrust-reversers in flight. The first officer and flight engineer were able to partially regain control.







September 15, 1982

Pilot

General aviation

Bankstown Airport incident

1

The pilot of a light aircraft committed suicide by deliberately crashing into airport in the City of Bankstown, New South Wales, Australia






July 13, 1994

Pilot

Military

Stolen aircraft

1

A Russian air force engineer stole the airplane at Kubinka air base outside of Moscow. He circled the aircraft until it ran out of fuel and crashed.






August 21, 1994

Pilot

Commercial flight

Royal Air Maroc Flight 630

44

Crashed intentionally by pilot (disputed by flight union)







December 19, 1997

Pilot

Commercial flight

SilkAir Flight 185

104

Crashed intentionally by pilot (disputed by Indonesian government)






October 11, 1999

Pilot

Stolen commercial aircraft

1999 Air Botswana incident

1

Pilot commandeered and then crashed an Air Botswana aircraft into a group of aircraft at Sir Seretse Khama International Airport in Gaborone, Botswana






October 31, 1999

First officer

Commercial flight

EgyptAir Flight 990

217

After the captain left the cockpit, first officer crashed aircraft into ocean while repeatedly saying "I rely on God" in Arabic[22] (U.S. National Transportation Safety Board); mechanical failure (Egyptian air agency



January 5, 2002

Pilot

General aviation

2002 Tampa airplane crash

1
(pilot, damaged an office)

Crashed into Bank of America Plaza. Credited and praised Osama bin Laden for September 11, 2001 attacks in suicide note.







April 18, 2002

Pilot

General aviation

2002 Pirelli Tower airplane crash

3
(pilot, 2 inside the building)

The aircraft crashed in the tower in Milan. Suicide is a possibility.







February 18, 2010

Pilot

General aviation

2010 Austin suicide attack

2

Andrew Joseph Stack III deliberately crashed his single-engine Piper Dakota light aircraft into Building I of the Echelon office complex in Austin, Texas, United States.






November 29, 2013

Pilot

Commercial flight

LAM Mozambique Airlines Flight 470

33

The pilot intentionally crashed jet; the co-pilot was locked out of the cockpit, according to the voice recorder.




March 8, 2014


Commercial flight

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

239

Pilot suicide is a possibility (wreckage and black boxes not yet found)







March 24, 2015

Co-pilot

Commercial flight

Germanwings Flight 9525

150

The co-pilot locked the captain out of cockpit before deliberately crashing the plane into a mountain near Prads-Haute-Bléone, Alpes-de-Haute-Provence, France.
By:
Facts
When: 02 Apr 15 14:08
FlowerMyth


Thank you
By:
xmoneyx
When: 02 Apr 15 16:01
depression,mental illness bullshit blown out the water

KILLER co-pilot Andreas Lubitz trawled the web for suicide methods, a search of his computer has revealed.

The 27-year-old also researched aircraft cockpit security in the months leading up to last week’s Germanwings crash in which 150 people were killed.

It comes as search teams uncovered the second black box from debris
By:
Just Checking
When: 02 Apr 15 17:19
The c4 program talked about the various incidents of things like this happening last night, will be on 4od.

In other news, we've this nonsense:
"depression,mental illness bullshit blown out the water
KILLER co-pilot Andreas Lubitz trawled the web for suicide methods"

In what way does a person searching for suicide methods imply that them being depressed or having a mental illness is "bullshit"? That's about as ****ing stupid as saying.
"He likes cars bullshit blown out the water
Car liker Jeremy Clarkson trawled the web for Cars".

Killer and mentally ill aren't exclusive, in fact they are surely often related.
By:
duncan idaho
When: 02 Apr 15 19:48
agreed, very stupid post
By:
polybot
When: 02 Apr 15 22:11
the passenger toilets should all be shared (two toilets, one room), this would stop any suspicious monkey business going on.
the pilots could both go and use these, giving the stewardesses a go at flying the plane. those girls will never learn if they don't get a chance to practice.
By:
tictacman1
When: 06 May 15 01:39
The Germanwings co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing a plane in the French Alps in March, killing all 150 people on board, practiced a descent on the previous flight.


Prosecutors believe 27-year-old German co-pilot Andreas Lubitz locked the captain out of the cockpit and veered the plane into an early descent on a flight from Barcelona to Duesseldorf on March 24.


German newspaper Bild cited sources close to France's BEA crash investigation agency, said an interim report that BEA was planning to publish on Wednesday would say that Lubitz had practiced reducing flight altitude on the outbound flight from Duesseldorf to Barcelona the same day as the crash.


Bild cited the sources as saying the BEA report would talk about a "controlled descent that lasted for minutes and for which there was no aeronautical justification".


Lubitz had suffered from severe depression in the past and a computer found in his home showed he had used the Internet to research ways of committing suicide in the days leading up to the crash. Prosecutors also found torn-up sick notes at his home showing he should not have flown on the day of the flight.
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