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Wesdag
28 Jan 15 13:20
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I kept thinking I've heard this dull track, "Stay With Me" somewhere before, and sure enough I was right.

A complete "coincidence" apparently on Smith's part.

Laugh

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By:
ThunderRoad
When: 28 Jan 15 13:30
Obviously not a coincidence, but terrible decision to award damages. Music has been about being inspired by, borrowing, and outright "stealing" (sampling) the work of others for 5 centuries.

Tom Petty's work has been borrowed by others before (I'm thinking both the Red Hot Chilli Peppers & Noah and the Whale). Disappointed to see him taking action this time around. It's below him.
By:
Wesdag
When: 28 Jan 15 13:30
Forgot to mention, the ripped off track was "I won't back down".
By:
Capt__F
When: 28 Jan 15 13:31
Lloyd Webber the worst
By:
Wesdag
When: 28 Jan 15 13:32
The 2 tracks are identical and yet there was no acknowledgement.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 28 Jan 15 13:35

Jan 28, 2015 -- 8:32AM, Wesdag wrote:


The 2 tracks are identical and yet there was no acknowledgement.


Nonsense. My first thought when I listened to it (as a Tom Petty fan) was, "oh that sounds similar to I Won't Back Down" but the reality is, the only thing borrowed is him saying "Stay With Me" in the same way that Petty says "Won't Back Down". Other than that, they're completely different songs.

By:
ThunderRoad
When: 28 Jan 15 13:36
I'd also add that probably about a third of new music I hear reminds me strongly of another, older piece of music I'm familiar with.

Fuss over nothing. Genius's steal.
By:
Wesdag
When: 28 Jan 15 13:45
Such nonsense that Tom & Jeff have now been given a writing credit.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 28 Jan 15 13:50
who ??? ,never heard of him or her ?
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 28 Jan 15 13:56
Obligatory Eagles/Jethro Tull comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJA_VF5c7U
By:
sixtwosix
When: 28 Jan 15 14:03
I manage to stay in a bubble and still blissfully unaware of the drivel that is the musical desert of 21st chart pop music.

Still plenty of quality music , John Grant , Ariel Pink , Mark Kozelek , War On Drugs , Caribou ........to have any excuse to listen to the puerile fodder on music channels & most radio stations.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 28 Jan 15 15:19
Bittersweet Symphony is apparently the best song ever 'written' by The Rolling Stones.
By:
Platini
When: 28 Jan 15 16:24
WTF ?

I'm a Tom Petty fan and know the song (I Wont Back Down) well.
I never connected these 2 songs at all. I've just had another listen and the only thing that is similar on both tracks is the timing on 3 words of the chorus, that's it, just timing.
The two tracks are wildly different.

WTF ?? Crazy
By:
alun2005
When: 28 Jan 15 16:34
Why oh why didn't Sam just stick to her insightful tennis commentaries?  Do what you're good at.
By:
Wesdag
When: 28 Jan 15 16:40
http://www.specsavers.co.uk/hearing?gclid=CPuRk9Gdt8MCFUcTwwodM7UA1w

Posted for the benefit of some on here.
By:
carvoeiro
When: 28 Jan 15 16:42
Have a listen to the Mark Ronson thing that was Xmas no.1
Rappers Delight, Oops Upside your head, Bits of Michael Jackson, a real mishmash of bits of songs.
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 28 Jan 15 17:10
Urban hyms now that's a good album.
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 28 Jan 15 18:01
tom petty or his music publishers have never seemed inclined to got after royalties for more obvious rip offs, probaly instigated by jeff lynnes camp
By:
Poppydog.
When: 28 Jan 15 18:25
I'm surprised no-one's posted the Tom Petty / Sam Smith comparison video

http://youtu.be/qkcZV97O3pw
By:
Platini
When: 28 Jan 15 20:14
Nah, sorry. epic fail.

The songs are almost nothing alike.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 29 Jan 15 01:13
Lloyd  Webber allegedly copied a Pink Floyd track for Phantom of the Opera
but they couldn't be bothered suing him.
By:
crags
When: 29 Jan 15 01:17
Has nobody learned from George Harrison's mistake?

Mix it up guys, mix it up.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 29 Jan 15 13:40
TP's released this statement

"About the Sam Smith thing. Let me say I have never had any hard feelings toward Sam.  All my years of songwriting have shown me these things can happen.  Most times you catch it before it gets out the studio door but in this case it got by.  Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament and we easily came to an agreement.  The word lawsuit was never even said and was never my intention.  And no more was to be said about it. How it got out to the press is beyond Sam or myself.  Sam did the right thing and I have thought no more about this.  A musical accident no more no less. In these times we live in this is hardly news. I wish Sam all the best for his ongoing career. Peace and love to all."
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 29 Jan 15 13:44
Great statement by Tom Petty, the man is class.
By:
Crisp77
When: 29 Jan 15 13:50
If Sam Smith talks like he sings he will be whining about this.
By:
ThunderRoad
When: 29 Jan 15 14:32

Jan 29, 2015 -- 8:44AM, SlippyBlue wrote:


Great statement by Tom Petty, the man is class.


Each to their own - wants to sound like a stoner, but acts like a mercenary businessman.

And I love Petty.

By:
Wesdag
When: 29 Jan 15 14:50
So Sam Smith wasn't being a "businessman" by profiting from Tom Petty's work?
By:
Ampleforth
When: 29 Jan 15 15:42
have to agree with Thunderoad, not a class statement at all..... A class statement would be along the lines of,

these things happen, who really gives a sh*t, I don't...

rather than

Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament

What fe**ing predicament??? that he is hard up and needs some cash or exposure, more fame on the back of a young songwriter..... WALOFS

If I had written 'Wont back down', I would be seriously embarrassed to have my name put down as a credit on 'Stay With Me'

what a tool....
By:
Ampleforth
When: 29 Jan 15 15:46
"Our predicament"


FFS   I can just see Tom phoning  Jeff up in the middle of the night in all of a tizzy wanting to know what they should do about it.....
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