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Wesdag
28 Jan 15 13:20
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I kept thinking I've heard this dull track, "Stay With Me" somewhere before, and sure enough I was right.

A complete "coincidence" apparently on Smith's part.

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Report ThunderRoad • January 28, 2015 2:30 PM GMT
Obviously not a coincidence, but terrible decision to award damages. Music has been about being inspired by, borrowing, and outright "stealing" (sampling) the work of others for 5 centuries.

Tom Petty's work has been borrowed by others before (I'm thinking both the Red Hot Chilli Peppers & Noah and the Whale). Disappointed to see him taking action this time around. It's below him.
Report Wesdag • January 28, 2015 2:30 PM GMT
Forgot to mention, the ripped off track was "I won't back down".
Report Capt__F • January 28, 2015 2:31 PM GMT
Lloyd Webber the worst
Report Wesdag • January 28, 2015 2:32 PM GMT
The 2 tracks are identical and yet there was no acknowledgement.
Report ThunderRoad • January 28, 2015 2:35 PM GMT

Jan 28, 2015 -- 8:32AM, Wesdag wrote:


The 2 tracks are identical and yet there was no acknowledgement.


Nonsense. My first thought when I listened to it (as a Tom Petty fan) was, "oh that sounds similar to I Won't Back Down" but the reality is, the only thing borrowed is him saying "Stay With Me" in the same way that Petty says "Won't Back Down". Other than that, they're completely different songs.

Report ThunderRoad • January 28, 2015 2:36 PM GMT
I'd also add that probably about a third of new music I hear reminds me strongly of another, older piece of music I'm familiar with.

Fuss over nothing. Genius's steal.
Report Wesdag • January 28, 2015 2:45 PM GMT
Such nonsense that Tom & Jeff have now been given a writing credit.
Report sixtwosix • January 28, 2015 2:50 PM GMT
who ??? ,never heard of him or her ?
Report ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo • January 28, 2015 2:56 PM GMT
Obligatory Eagles/Jethro Tull comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sJA_VF5c7U
Report sixtwosix • January 28, 2015 3:03 PM GMT
I manage to stay in a bubble and still blissfully unaware of the drivel that is the musical desert of 21st chart pop music.

Still plenty of quality music , John Grant , Ariel Pink , Mark Kozelek , War On Drugs , Caribou ........to have any excuse to listen to the puerile fodder on music channels & most radio stations.
Report Sica Dan • January 28, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
Bittersweet Symphony is apparently the best song ever 'written' by The Rolling Stones.
Report Platini • January 28, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
WTF ?

I'm a Tom Petty fan and know the song (I Wont Back Down) well.
I never connected these 2 songs at all. I've just had another listen and the only thing that is similar on both tracks is the timing on 3 words of the chorus, that's it, just timing.
The two tracks are wildly different.

WTF ?? Crazy
Report alun2005 • January 28, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
Why oh why didn't Sam just stick to her insightful tennis commentaries?  Do what you're good at.
Report Wesdag • January 28, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
http://www.specsavers.co.uk/hearing?gclid=CPuRk9Gdt8MCFUcTwwodM7UA1w

Posted for the benefit of some on here.
Report carvoeiro • January 28, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
Have a listen to the Mark Ronson thing that was Xmas no.1
Rappers Delight, Oops Upside your head, Bits of Michael Jackson, a real mishmash of bits of songs.
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! • January 28, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
Urban hyms now that's a good album.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson • January 28, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
tom petty or his music publishers have never seemed inclined to got after royalties for more obvious rip offs, probaly instigated by jeff lynnes camp
Report Poppydog. • January 28, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
I'm surprised no-one's posted the Tom Petty / Sam Smith comparison video

http://youtu.be/qkcZV97O3pw
Report Platini • January 28, 2015 9:14 PM GMT
Nah, sorry. epic fail.

The songs are almost nothing alike.
Report Sica Dan • January 29, 2015 2:13 AM GMT
Lloyd  Webber allegedly copied a Pink Floyd track for Phantom of the Opera
but they couldn't be bothered suing him.
Report crags • January 29, 2015 2:17 AM GMT
Has nobody learned from George Harrison's mistake?

Mix it up guys, mix it up.
Report ThunderRoad • January 29, 2015 2:40 PM GMT
TP's released this statement

"About the Sam Smith thing. Let me say I have never had any hard feelings toward Sam.  All my years of songwriting have shown me these things can happen.  Most times you catch it before it gets out the studio door but in this case it got by.  Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament and we easily came to an agreement.  The word lawsuit was never even said and was never my intention.  And no more was to be said about it. How it got out to the press is beyond Sam or myself.  Sam did the right thing and I have thought no more about this.  A musical accident no more no less. In these times we live in this is hardly news. I wish Sam all the best for his ongoing career. Peace and love to all."
Report SlippyBlue • January 29, 2015 2:44 PM GMT
Great statement by Tom Petty, the man is class.
Report Crisp77 • January 29, 2015 2:50 PM GMT
If Sam Smith talks like he sings he will be whining about this.
Report ThunderRoad • January 29, 2015 3:32 PM GMT

Jan 29, 2015 -- 8:44AM, SlippyBlue wrote:


Great statement by Tom Petty, the man is class.


Each to their own - wants to sound like a stoner, but acts like a mercenary businessman.

And I love Petty.

Report Wesdag • January 29, 2015 3:50 PM GMT
So Sam Smith wasn't being a "businessman" by profiting from Tom Petty's work?
Report Ampleforth • January 29, 2015 4:42 PM GMT
have to agree with Thunderoad, not a class statement at all..... A class statement would be along the lines of,

these things happen, who really gives a sh*t, I don't...

rather than

Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament

What fe**ing predicament??? that he is hard up and needs some cash or exposure, more fame on the back of a young songwriter..... WALOFS

If I had written 'Wont back down', I would be seriously embarrassed to have my name put down as a credit on 'Stay With Me'

what a tool....
Report Ampleforth • January 29, 2015 4:46 PM GMT
"Our predicament"


FFS   I can just see Tom phoning  Jeff up in the middle of the night in all of a tizzy wanting to know what they should do about it.....
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