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DancingBraveTheBest
25 Jan 15 21:21
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just received a notice of prosecution from the police saying i was doing 69 in a 60 zone.  i was driving a small wheel base renault traffic van on a dual carriagway with bollards down middle of road.  i was under the impression i would be able to do 70mph in this van on this road.  any advice greatly appreciated.
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Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:23 PM GMT
The speed limit for vans unless car derived vans is 60 on a dual carriageway (might be other criteria) I drive a dual carriageway every weekday and not many van drivers know that.
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Very unlucky to get caught. I see vans do 85+ all the time on dual carriageways.
Report Red Bum • January 25, 2015 10:27 PM GMT
By strange co-incidence it was only this afternoon I learned of that rule. My brother-in-law is a traffic cop and was telling me they're having a campaign on this at the moment and raking it in as the vast majority of van owners are not aware of this restriction.
Report The Leopard • January 25, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
Car-derived vans up to 2 tonnes maximum laden weight    30 (48)    60 (96)    70 (112)    70 (112)

70 on dual carriage-way !
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
No very good at this copying and pasting are you the leopard

‘car-derived’ vans

Most vans are under 7.5 tonnes laden (loaded) weight and must follow the speed limits for goods vehicles of the same weight. This includes Ford Transit vans.

‘Car-derived’ vans weigh no more than 2 tonnes when loaded and are goods vehicles based on car designs, such as a Ford Fiesta van or Vauxhall Astra van. Check your log book under ‘body type’ if you’re not sure.
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:33 PM GMT
Mischief
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:34 PM GMT
Goods vehicles (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight)    30 (48)    50 (80)    60 (96)    70 (112)
60 (96) if articulated or towing a trailer
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:34 PM GMT
So 60 for most vans unless car derived.
Report DancingBraveTheBest • January 25, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
on the same strech of road about 6 years ago i was driving a long wheel base mercedes, twice the size of my current van an got caught doing 79. police said i was doing 79 in a 70 so i am a bit confused as they are now saying its a 60 limit for my van. also looked into it a bit and read that cause the dual carriagway had a central reservation speed limit for my van would be 70.
Report Make my hay • January 25, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
Dual carriagway with bollards down middle of road, maybe  = Single carriageway which would be 60.
Report The Leopard • January 25, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
Crisp = White van man  1.01 Wink
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:40 PM GMT
This may explain it. It's not easy depends on if it is a slip road only dual carriageway or has crossings.

Dual carriageway is a two way divided road with a central barrier that you are able to cross from side roads.

Motorway is a two way divided road with a central barrier containing slip roads. It is only possible to access a motorway via slip roads and there is no crossway traffic.
Report Crisp77 • January 25, 2015 10:40 PM GMT
You will need to get onto google maps and hope it is a slip road only stretch.
Report DancingBraveTheBest • January 25, 2015 10:45 PM GMT
thanks for the replies.
Report ekbalko • January 26, 2015 11:10 PM GMT
I got caught in a Transit Van doing 68mph on a dual carriageway a couple of months ago,3pts and £100 fine.Last week same stretch of road i am sat behind the camera van that did me doing 70mph the tw@t.
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