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Eeternaloptimist
08 Jan 15 23:44
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I quote from tonights edition of Question Time read out by Dimbleby:

The Prophet Mohammed must not be represented in any shape or form.

Well they certainly kept that one quiet. Craven cowards. They certainly don't mind showing programmes representing or indeed taking the mick out of pretty much all other religions. Islam? Well of course not.

Thanks gents. With any luck that'll be another five percent on UKIP's vote at the next election if this is picked up and reported in its full glory by our equally craven print media.

We shall see.

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By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Jan 15 23:53
Yeah - no special guidelines on Jesus or the Bible - it's open season for them. Chuck them in the bin, p1ss on them or set them on fire...go on you heroes and hypocrites.

Fair enough................except it's not, is it? It's bullsh1t.

Liked what David Davis said about Methodism - the Wesleys were beaten and insulted and the churches set on fire ; yet they never took offense.
By:
Dobbo
When: 09 Jan 15 00:01
The problem is with the deluded who feel compelled to invent these deities and then demand that we respect them. Imagine how us sensible people feel seeing chaos and murder reign stimulated by  the invention of baseless faith.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jan 15 00:08
Religion is for the feeble minded and or the brainwashed.
Justifiable that people believed the stories centuries ago but not now.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:15
"...chaos and murder reign stimulated by  the invention of baseless faith. "

Name and shame Dobbo - which "faith"? Do you mean Islam? Marxism? Maoism? Stalinism? Step up to the plate, man...
By:
Dobbo
When: 09 Jan 15 00:17
All of you idiots. You depress me.
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 15 00:20
I believe in God.

You can do what you like. You can ridicule me, you can ridicule my God if you wish. You can say what you like. If you feel the need than you can even print his name and image on toilet paper for all I care. That is your problem to deal with, not mine. It won't shake my faith and you have the right to do so. Just leave me alone and respect my right to my own beliefs and faith and I will respect yours. Quite simple really.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:20
"Religion is for the feeble minded and or the brainwashed. "

I agree with this...I have no religion...I do nothing that is "religious". It's Jesus Christ for me. Grin
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Are you a Mason, Aka? Freemason?
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:25
I agree with Clouseau.

My God was beaten and whipped, stripped naked and crucified - spat on and mocked. He was the most powerless man that ever died...but as Kurt Vonnegut said, "They sure picked on the wrong guy this time..."
By:
Dobbo
When: 09 Jan 15 00:27
I don't believe in God because there isn't one. All I want to do is live an uncomplicated life from A to B (or death as we call it)That in itself has its own trials and it really is depressing to hear of murder,persecution,massacre in the name of  a philosophy that has as much resonance as the fables of Harry Potter.

All faith systems are nonsense but they have a right to exist but why should we suffer?

We are innocent bystanders in your fcking madness.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:31
I like what Slavoj Zizek said in The Pervert's Guide to Cinema - that Christianity is radical atheism. Well said, sir - a thinking man. And now that you've dealt with the Old Testament, crack on with the New...
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jan 15 00:31
Over 40 years ago I read a book by Pastor Wurmbrand and how he had suffered because of his faith.
One wee part in it caused me concern and it was along the lines of Gods Love.
Immediately the Aberfan disaster came into my mind, it had been a few years previously, and I thought how could a loving god put so many families through this much misery.
144 died, a figure which included 116 children, when a coal tip moved and engulfed a school. Even to this day I get quite emotional when I recall it.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jan 15 00:36
Velasquez
Are you a Mason, Aka? Freemason?


Neither a mason or an Orangeman with little time for either.
Masons in Scotland, or at least the Glasgow and surrounding areas, are probably adrift of Mason's elsewhere.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:37
And what EXACTLY is my "fcking madness"?

You seem - to me - to be the one who is a bit "mad" here or at least ANGRY...

Note : So B is "death" is it? Laugh

What a sh1tty metaphor...not exactly Aristotle are you? "The World of Null-A"...and the sequel, "The World of Null-B."
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:38
Aka - I like you more every day.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:40
But I'm still not going to stop taking the p1ss out of The Rangers - after all, satire ain't dead...yet...
By:
kenny mann
When: 09 Jan 15 00:41
Dobbo's always angry, not helped by his impending pension probably and the start of old age Wink, but he does have Steven Hawkins on his side in this case.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:43
"I don't believe in God because there isn't one. All I want to do is live an uncomplicated life from A to B (or death as we call it)That in itself has its own trials and it really is depressing to hear of murder,persecution,massacre in the name of  a philosophy."

Please don't take OFFENSE at this buddy...but...you sound like a regular MARTYR...Shocked
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 15 00:44
I remember Aberfan well, Akabula, and the shock of it throughout the country.

Don't want to turn this into a philosophical debate but I can't hold God responsible for every catastrophe, every disaster, every natural, or man-made, devastation, or to bring it down to the mundane level, every bit of bad luck that befalls anybody.

IMO he isn't a bearded bloke in the sky cracking off bolts of lightning with his fingertip.

He may have created us but can't be responsible for everything that happens.
By:
Dobbo
When: 09 Jan 15 00:44
Fcking madness is what happened in Paris yesterday.It is not attributed to you personally. But yes  anger comes in to it. Try for one moment to ditch your ego and imagine the lives of others.There are wars and revolutions and murders and atrocities happening all over the gaff and the stimulus is faith in some pathetic invented god.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jan 15 00:46
BTW I'm talking organised religion here.
Something must drive the universe whether it be a 'god' or something like Mother  Nature for example.
I also don't think there is anything wrong with trying to live a 'Christian' life.
In that respect it doesn't really matter if Jesus was real or fictional as long as you follow his example or at least that as described.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:48
As Aka could tell you Dobbo, that's a pithy saying here in the West of Scotland, "Aye, he's a pyoor MARTYR tae himself...he's swallyin' yon Askit powders like sherbet..."
By:
Dobbo
When: 09 Jan 15 00:50
Theres a saying here in Hereford "Don't trust a clever dick  for he is nowt but cleverdickery"
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 00:50
"It is not attributed to you personally"

Well thank fook for that. I don't fancy heading for the woods in this weather.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jan 15 00:51
Velasquez

But I'm still not going to stop taking the p1ss out of The Rangers - after all, satire ain't dead...yet...


I wouldn't have it any other way. Happy days are looming btw.
I think that this american guy is maybe connected to Ashley but I also think the King camp will win the day.
King will ask for an egm tomorrow which will stall any move by Ashley or the yank.
And if King does get in they will go to court to get all the commercial deals quashed.
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 15 00:56
Dobbo... you haven't got a monopoly on the revulsion of what happened in Paris.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Jan 15 00:56
I like dobbo's philosophy.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Jan 15 00:57
Clouseau

I remember Aberfan well, Akabula, and the shock of it throughout the country.

Don't want to turn this into a philosophical debate but I can't hold God responsible for every catastrophe, every disaster, every natural, or man-made, devastation, or to bring it down to the mundane level, every bit of bad luck that befalls anybody.

IMO he isn't a bearded bloke in the sky cracking off bolts of lightning with his fingertip.

He may have created us but can't be responsible for everything that happens.



I was 16 when Aberfan happened and I remember fighting back tears when they were giving us the number of fatalities.

To respond to the point that god can't be held responsible for what happens that's my issue. I was brought up to believe that god was omnipresent and everything was gods will. This is what I believe is rubbish. If there is a god then he has created us and left us to get on with it, nothing else makes sense.
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 15 01:00
So we both agree that dogma is bollox then. Good, that's a start.Happy
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 01:01
Yes, I...I must say, those Hereforders, they...eh...the...thee cleverdickery....yes, the cleverdickery...it's...ah...it's most annoying, isn't it? Yes, I was just saying that to Russell Brand the other day - I was having a pint of fizzy lager beer with him and Ed Balls and I said, "Russell - Russell, mate, do you know (burp) what really really annoys me the most - about you, like - it's not your faux Dickensian waif routine...no...it's yer CLEVERDICKERY!!"

"That's why Katy divorced me" he replied...and his little face, his VISAGE, like, was most solemn, for he was a martyr to himself...Sad
By:
Dobbo
When: 09 Jan 15 01:01
Closeau I cant see where I am claiming any sort of monopoly. I just don't get it. Why are people being murdered because they take the piss out of a fictional character? Us non believers are bewildered as to why such energy is being wasted on such trifles and why  grief is the intended result.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 01:04
"I like dobbo's philosophy. "


Dobbo's a Nihilist or an Existentialist...or Existential Nihilist...and them is religions too, mate...(burp)...Mischief
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Jan 15 01:07
Dobbo, so are the majority of believers who don't feel the need to make their beliefs compulsory for all mankind.

You tarred all people of faith with the same brush. Of course it is rancid.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Jan 15 01:08
He seems more human.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 01:09
Have I missed something?

Did Mohammed not actually exist...like...in World History, like? In what sense is he a "fictional" character?

Voltaire - 1736 -  Le fanatisme, ou Mahomet le Prophete.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 09 Jan 15 01:09
akabula   
09 Jan 15 00:57 
Clouseau

I remember Aberfan well, Akabula, and the shock of it throughout the country.


I remember it as well. 

Did you ever read what the National Coal Board did with the donations from the public that were meant for families?

What a bunch of coonts.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 01:11
MORE human?

More human than what -- the LESSER human standing beside him?

Gee, Aristotle, eh...? Happy
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 01:12
lfc1971 - U a disciple?

Disciple of Dobbo...Son of Dobbo...Apprentice of Dobbohood...
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Jan 15 01:15
I like to read between the lines.
By:
Velasquez
When: 09 Jan 15 01:16
"Human, All Too Human"

F.N.
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