The SNP and the Scottish health service

she needed special drugs,blood transfusions,only available London

The UK Ebola treatment centre is in London. Scotland is in the UK. HTH.

Where to start?
Firstly Scotland didn't ask for independence. A resounding 62% did not vote for independence.
Others have answered your point on the nurse being transferred to London, I would have thought that was obvious.
Lastly it is the UKs National Health Service.

your claiming the non-voters?

See your points but the SNP made great play about the NHS whilst failing to recognise some of the plus points about the UK as an entity.

Politicians blind to the other side of the argument, whatever next?

Blind prejudice perhaps ? I am glad the vote went the way it did and believe,contrary to reports, the SNP support may take a dive this May. Didnt that happen last time ?

xmoneyx
your claiming the non-voters?

This vote was called for and driven by the SNP who only managed to get 38% of the electorate to vote for independence.
Simple maths tells you that 62% didn't.

sevco maths

for simpletons

what was percentage NO using same formula

wilki pedia

The independence referendum question, which voters answered with "Yes" or "No", was "Should Scotland be an independent country?". The "No" side won, with 2,001,926 (55.3%) voting against independence and 1,617,989 (44.7%) voting in favour. The turnout of 84.6% was the highest recorded for an election or referendum in the United Kingdom since the introduction of universal suffrage.


aka claiming the 15.4% non voters

walofs

WALOFS?

Salmond wanted independence. He asked the electorate to vote for independence.
Only 38% of the electorate voted yes. Therefore 62% didn't.
The Better Together campaign won the day, get over it guys. Or should that be ghuys?

looking forward to SNP ruling westminster after GE 2015

xmoneyx
looking forward to SNP ruling westminster after GE 2015

I wonder if wee eck will have grown his moustache by then.

The difference between the 55% who voted No and the 45% who voted Yes was approximately 400,000 votes - 2m to 1.6m.

If you consider that the latest census revealed that well over 500,000 people resident in Scotland and eligible to vote come from England, NI or Wales (17,000), and are most likely to have voted No then it should never seriously be claimed that the majority of Scots voted against independence. The likelihood is that the reverse is true.

Perhaps next time only Scots living in Scotland should be allowed to vote on the future of Scotland...

FFS and I thought Alias was clutching at straws.

Jim Murphy giving it a good try


"So we will tax houses in London and the South East to pay for 1,000 new nurses in the Scottish NHS. It's a real win-win for Scotland.

"If Labour wins the election this May and win again in 2016 we will start recruiting those nurses on day one."

When asked if Mr Miliband had approved the policy, Mr Murphy said: "I didn't ask him, I have no idea. I am sure he probably will."

The difference between the 55% who voted No and the 45% who voted Yes was approximately 400,000 votes - 2m to 1.6m.

If you consider that the latest census revealed that well over 500,000 people resident in Scotland and eligible to vote come from England, NI or Wales (17,000), and are most likely to have voted No then it should never seriously be claimed that the majority of Scots voted against independence. The likelihood is that the reverse is true.

Perhaps next time only Scots living in Scotland should be allowed to vote on the future of Scotland...

The irony is you probably think your an anti-westMinster liberal type who cares about the poor and vulnerable and abhors the tories and UKIP for their right wing racist ways but you are quite happy to disenfranchise people based merely on their race and nationality simply because they have the audacity to disagree with your political leanings.

Why should only `Scots` living in Scotland be allowed to vote and fellow citizens not...disgraceful but typical of the sort of country the yes voters would have created.

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Where to start?

Firstly Scotland didn't ask for independence. A resounding 62% did not vote for independence.


You're a LIAR akabula, plain and simple, like the mob who called themselves Better Together.  You are twisting facts.

Agree or not: 55% of those who voted voted No. Your quote of 62 % assumes that ALL NON VOTERS would have voted no.

As I said, YOU SIR ARE A LIAR.

By the way, I'm still waiting on you explaining your master theory "It's all based on a Braveheart theme".

Only 38% of the electorate voted yes. Therefore 62% didn't

'If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.' - ADOLF HITLER.

Sits well with you akabula.

So how many of the electorate voted YES Alias?
Are you saying it wasn't 38%?
Where is your source?
What part of my post was a lie?

Still seething FFS you lost get over it.

BTW I said 62% of the electorate didn't vote for independence. Is that figure wrong and if so why?

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It's been good to see the various people, politicians and others, debate independence. One thing has been evident though from those that would vote yes and it's a distinct lack of factual detail. It's all based on a Braveheart theme


Hilarious! Give us some "factual detail" akabula and expand on your lie based theory that "it's all based on a Braveheart theme".

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@ Alias Who the **** do you think you are to demand someone tell you what their political leanings are on a forum. WTF business is that of yours.
As regards your second point I have answered that already but here goes again. I want the Union to remain so no matter who you quote I don't want to be governed by Holyrood. As regards a Tory government then as long as it has been democratically voted in I will obviously go along with that.
Lets think over what Labour governments have done for us in recent times. Took us into wars, sold all our gold at knockdown prices and set the scene for an economic collapse. Yes good old Labour we can trust them. Can't we?



NO, and you can't trust your new hero Murphy in the slightest.

Alias you trusted the SNP who told us we were on the verge of another oil industry boom.
What happened?
prices immediately fell to $60 a barrel and are now at $50.
The whole of the Scottish economy was based on a predicted price of $113.
You and every other Yes voter should be on yer knees thanking us No voters for saving the nation.
Now I know Alias you are frustrated that you are no longer throwing yer bricks but try to respond without insults.
Better Together, now an accepted fact.

Now I know Alias you are frustrated that you are no longer throwing yer bricks but try to respond without insults.

Anyone see the irony in the above sentence from akabula?


Here's an earlier LIE and insult from akabula:

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Alias
Meanwhile, sad to hear on TV that people have been abusing bin lorry staff.

Pity you weren't of that mindset when you were chucking bricks through the windows of those betting NO.


AND the above is somewhat at odd with akabula's statement below:

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tobermory
joke country that this tweeting idiot has been arrested

Has he been arrested? I know he went to the police station.
Public opinion has resulted in some of these cretins getting arrested and whilst ott I've no sympathy for them.
TMM I think they should be barred from wherever they have posted their offensive stuff.
BTW for those who speak of freedom of speech then engage your brain. Freedom of speech doesn't give anyone the right to be offensive.

I think most would agree that akabula is OFFENSIVE.

More, it's humorous when you consider that akabula also posted this:

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Oh dear Alias you can't help yourself can you.

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As for the price of oil, the SNP/Scottish govt forecast was BELOW that of the UK govt figure. akabula attempts more LIES in saying:

SNP who told us we were on the verge of another oil industry boom.
What happened?
prices immediately fell to $60 a barrel and are now at $50.
The whole of the Scottish economy was based on a predicted price of $113.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS the oil was claimed as a bonus by the SNP. On the other hand, UK govts have used it for decades to bail themselves out, and it's they who are cr@pping it now. On your knees? Like akabula when he brown noses the royals?

The frustration is all with akabula and other SNP/freedom haters who thought that SNP/YES alliance would roll over after the referendum. What happened? HUGE surge in membership. Roll on general election.

Just a bonus               

whit aboot the surplus ? 

the oil fund ?           


SCOTLAND’S North Sea revenues would have slumped to one fifth of the SNP’s predictions in the first year ­following a Yes vote, a watchdog’s report has suggested.

Opposition parties have accused the Scottish Government of the “worst kind of deceit” after the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) claimed oil revenues would be about £1.25 billion, instead of £6.9 ­billion heralded by the SNP, in 2016-17.

Labour has now stepped up calls for an inquiry into the ­validity of official government statistics in light of the price slump, which was under way ­before the referendum vote.

A summit is to be held in ­Aberdeen in the New Year to ­address the impact of the slump. Leading oil industry ­figures have warned that thousands of jobs are facing the axe in the North Sea after the price fell below $60 a barrel – from a ­summer high of $110.

Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said: “The SNP told the people of Scotland that the oil price would rise, it would stay high and there would be so much surplus revenue, Scotland could afford an oil fund for the future as well as finance all of the Scottish Government’s day-to-day spending commitments as well. Expert after expert pointed out how fanciful this was – and yet Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon and John Swinney insisted a new oil boom was on the way. It was nonsense then and it is nonsense now.

“It was the worst kind of ­deceit to try and bribe voters before the referendum and it is to Scotland’s great credit that the majority voters saw through their fantasy economics. Now the oil price has crashed, their silence is deafening.”

Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson said:

As her audience crushed into a phone booth.

OIL FUND?  The UK is one of only TWO oil producing countries which has never built an oil fund. WHY? Because they've consistently wasted and blown the revenue.

Opposition parties have accused the Scottish Government

WOW! What a surprise. So the blue, red and yellow tories all agree - again.

bnb, when you come up with something resembling an original argument, I might debate with you. As it is, you're dafter than akabula and that's saying something.

Dont be an ungrateful curmudgeon all your life Alias ,lay your bricks down and come to UKIP

The status quo was that Scotland was part of the UK. The SNP agitated for a referendum to change the status quo; in the resulting referendum 38% of the eligible population voted to change the status quo.

62% did not.

These facts are pretty unarguable, I would suggest.

What do the ordinary  Norwegians get from their Oil Fund?

They just buy stocks and currency with the money raised, rather than use it to cover the national budget. So your answer is they get the future that all other European countries don't have.

jed, in elections and referendums people who do not vote are not usually included in results. That is to say that of the people who actually voted 1.6m, or 45%, voted yes and 2m, 55%, voted No.

By your calculations (and that of Mr Sevco - though no surprise he has a problem with counting), 47% of those eligible to vote, voted to stay in the union, 53% did not.

Hope this clarifies things for you.

* referenda

62% happy with the status quo ,38%  demanded ac/dc (highway to hell) common  sense prevailed

stop twisting and wriggling

we cant be coming to the rescue every time you go off on one ,you should be old enough to know better ,acting like spoilt teenagers throwing a tantrum

The result read:

45% yes, 55% no.

Therefore a mere 5.1 percent swing would have reversed the decision, and that only after lie upon lie by the unionists. These are the numbers that count. Next time you won't NEED a count.

bnb, jed, akabula and all of the other hun supporting, crawling unionists are spitting blood now as the watch SNP membership rise and rise. Greens too, and they've probably overtaken akabula's Libdums.

SNP are now at least DOUBLE the membership of ALL the other Scottish parties added together. The times they are a - changin'.

UKIP? A fan of Nigel Falange ffs. I'm really glad I threw you back bnb.

in 1707 there was 1 scots two 4 ? now it is 1 scots to  dont no what

next time  ...........its not  gonna be an  annual event Alias

Waste of time arguing with people who live their lives forever in blind denial.

Independence is inevitable, the only question is when. Unionists - especially Sevcos - crappping themselves because they know it...

Oh dear Alias you can't help yourself can you.
Pity you weren't of that mindset when you were chucking bricks through the windows of those betting NO.
Now I know Alias you are frustrated that you are no longer throwing yer bricks but try to respond without insults

Alias why are any of the three above sentences offensive?
What is it that is offensive about them?

No voters were vilified at every turn, look at your own behaviour on here where you couldn't post without insulting anyone who dared to oppose your position.

The yes campaigners know the truth but it is unpalatable to them so they refuse acknowledge it.
The Scottish electorate were asked to vote for independence. Only 38% did so.

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Oh dear Alias you can't help yourself can you.
Pity you weren't of that mindset when you were chucking bricks through the windows of those betting NO.
Now I know Alias you are frustrated that you are no longer throwing yer bricks but try to respond without insults

Alias why are any of the three above sentences offensive?
What is it that is offensive about them?

No voters were vilified at every turn, look at your own behaviour on here where you couldn't post without insulting anyone who dared to oppose your position.


You're not serious, surely? You don't think it's offensive to infer that I smashed windows?. "No voters vilified at every turn" ROFLMAO!!!  Like you haven't vilified me, above? And where is the EVIDENCE for your assertion that I "bricked" windows?

I remember before the vote, posting a link to VIDEO evidence of an attack on a YES stall outside Tynecastle stadium. I can't recall you making any comment. Truth is, you are full ofsh1te. By the way, when you go canvassing for your "local Libdem MP", do you tell accuse the opposition of bricking windpws? What does your MP think of you?

akabula, you're a busted flush, with nothing left except wild insults and unfounded accusations. Not that you had anything to start with..... except of course your masterful, nay brilliant strategy encapsulated as "it's all based on a Braveheart theme". That, you hun mug, rates as the DUMBEST post of 2014. Congratulations!
Oh, I'm still waiting on you expanding and producing detail of "it's all based on a Braveheart theme".

akabula

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The yes campaigners know the truth but it is unpalatable to them so they refuse acknowledge it.

Here's a truth: SNP membership close to 100,000. Labour between  1,000 and 13,000. Tory? Inconsequential. Libdum? akabula and his missus plus MP in a phone box.

FWIW alias, I am no Unionist. I would cut Scotland adrift in a heartbeat, and delight in the shambolic destitution to which your Nation would swiftly return, and from which it was delivered by the Act Of Union.

Can't believe you're still wasting your time alias. I blocked Akabula after his disgusting allegation that 'scalding hot tea' was thrown at Jim Murphy. He can't differentiate between being called a cretin for voting no and being called a cretin for making things up.

The term 'yestapo' is still being thrown round with reckless abandon, without ever appearing in any mainstream article about on-line abuse that I have seen. Idiots on both sides but it seems some things (real and imagined) are/were more worthy of coverage.

Akabula called it right, trying to argue with that plum alais is like trying to argue with a child. He has an uncanny ability not to be able to understand any point of view that differs from his own.

and from which it was delivered by the Act Of Union

That would seem to suggest that you are a master seer, and that are about 350 years old. The quality of your posts suggest the latter only.

john92

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Can't believe you're still wasting your time alias.

You may be smarter than me john92!
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lfc1971
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Akabula called it right, trying to argue with that plum alais

OOPS! Spot the plum time folks!

Keep seething you bitter old fool.

Alias and John92 struggle to accept defeat.
They should be delighted they failed given the massive crash that oil prices have suffered.
We were told another oil industry boom was in the offing. How wrong were they.
Better Together - now a proven fact.

,Are u saying oil price is worth more because it's UK

??????????????????
What makes you think I'm saying that?