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06 Dec 14 21:02
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Just watching the snooker and although Stephen Hendry is totally Scottish through and through, he doesn't have that strong an accent as compared to say, Billy Connolly or John Higgins.

Is there one particular regional accent that's become a kind of stereotype for what a lot of us perceive as a Scottish accent?

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By:
Pokermonster
When: 06 Dec 14 21:11
Yes, Glaswegian.  The Edinburgh accent sounds like posh Scottish.
By:
themightymac
When: 06 Dec 14 21:36
Aye
By:
themightymac
When: 06 Dec 14 21:38
A recent survey determined that the best English spoken in the UK was in Royal Deeside.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 06 Dec 14 21:38
Agree with poker.  Loads of varied scottish accents.  Same of course in england.  Same in USA and Australia, thing with USA and Australia is they are at least clear regardless.
By:
paddletoe
When: 06 Dec 14 21:56
I think the Glasgow accent is the best accent in the world for male comedians while I think the Edinburgh accent is absolutely lovely when you hear a girl talking with that accent.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 06 Dec 14 22:48
There's more than a hint of Northern Irish in the Caithness accent.
By:
paddletoe
When: 06 Dec 14 22:56
There's more than a hint of Scottish in the N.Ireand Ballymoney accent.
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Dec 14 23:40
Pretty much all of Europe tends to have strong regional accents, the question is a bit like asking does England have regional accents. Much like England has Scouse Geordie West Country Brum Cockney, Scotland has Glaswegian North East Edinburgh etc. Ireland is the same. It's just the further you get away from your own accent it's harder to see the differences that are obvious to locals. A strong Dublin accent is massively different to Cork, to some it's all just Irish sounding, a German from the north may have trouble even understanding a rural Bavarian, to us it just sounds German. Arnie sounds German to us, to Germans he an Austrian farmer, he's as German to them as someone from the Welsh Valleys is Cockney, you just can't hear it. I know an Australian that can't tell Welsh and English accents apart :)

The strange one is North America where the level of change can be little across large distances. I'm sure it's because its a relatively new country and the level of movement/immigration coupled with it developing after mass communication, that kind of unifies things. Like people in the UK adopting americanisms because of media. OK obviously there is a large difference between a texas and a boston accent but that's across a vast distance, in Europe accents can vary strongly across a few miles.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 06 Dec 14 23:50
Yeah but we can all understand any yank accent no matter how strong.  They will really struggle to understand a strong geordie or Glaswegian accent.  As will i.
By:
Capt__F
When: 06 Dec 14 23:57
y eye
By:
sofiakenny
When: 07 Dec 14 00:03
sook ma plooms
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 07 Dec 14 00:12
I remember working with a German Doctor some years ago. Nice lady. I was speaking to her in German for the craic and she said I spoke better German than a Bavarian. She was clearly tickled by this which seems to prove Checking's comment about accents being noticeable to locals and indeed that Germans do have a sense of humor even if its a little strange.

Where I disagree with Checking is on his characterisation of American accents. On that I'd think we are no better than the Australian who can't tell the Welsh from English accent. We may not be able to tell the difference but I'd imagine most Americans can tell their accents in the same way we can abot our own. I've seen films where people from the same American city have been talking and one has identified which part of the city the other hails from due to how they speak.
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Dec 14 00:14
Just for you rob, a language course in Glaswegian LaughLaugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfCk_yNuTGk
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Dec 14 00:14
Rob you've never been to the US? We get the sanatised versions Crazy
Some ununderstandble US version of Brad C Nezbit (see what I did there Laugh) isn't going to sell.
But that's rare. The interesting thing about the sanitisation is that around NY, one of the places we'd all be most familiar with from TV, the accent is often more ... Bostony and different to what we expect from all the shows set there that sound a bit more mid atlantic. Quite understandable accents, but a bit different to what you'd expect.
(thinly veiled I've been to New Yoik post Blush)
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Dec 14 00:24
EO I'm not saying they don't differ, they really do, just they differ over LARGER ranges and much less than here.
In europe it can often be a few miles and its very noticable. There, it's just much, less.
You just can NOT compare the differences there to Europe. Italy has massive differences up and down the country.
Even the Netherlands has large differences over short distances in a tiny country.

I've spoken to americans/candians about their accents and more than one mentioned some conceptual area with similar accents, then down south etc it gets different. I'm quite interested in and good at accents, I like to listen ;)
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Dec 14 00:27
We all sound alike to foreigners. When on holiday I`ve even been mistaken for being English Shocked
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Dec 14 00:29
Was speaking to an American beauty in New York and she asked me where I came from. When I told her Scotland she replied, "Is that a small town just outside London" Devil
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 07 Dec 14 00:30
I was recently in Portugal and the taxi driver couldn't tell the difference between any accent in England. He said that to him there was a slight difference with the Scots compared to most English.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 07 Dec 14 00:32
Given it's size I suppose to most Americans Scotland is just outside London. Funnily enough I was speaking to someone in America and they thought Ireland was on the European mainland.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 07 Dec 14 00:39
I worked with four Scots on Canary Wharf in 1989. 

The Glaswegian used to ask me what the one from Brora was saying Laugh

But he understood the two from Wick (Father and son. Son committed suicide that xmas)
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Dec 14 00:40
You guys are just basically restating what I've just said Confused

It's one of the reasons I find e.g. Scots who get outraged at sounding "English" just so f**king petty.
It's JUST the way every human in the worlds ears work, not a national insult!

Honestly, hand on heart anywhere here: Can you tell a NZ or Australian accent apart?

If not .. well .. I think I've made a point. It's all the same thing, not discrimination!
If you can't tell them apart, that's your thing. They can!

Think about that over your feesh and cheeps LaughBlushWhoops

(That was a joke for australaisians :))
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Dec 14 00:41
Americans are parochial and aren`t very bright EO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
By:
call me a taxi
When: 07 Dec 14 00:46
I got talking to a yank in Vancouver a few years back. He kept hinting  how big his ranch was back in (wherever it was)
'It takes me over 30 minutes to drive round the perimeter fences' he said.
I said 'Yeh, I had a car like that once, so I scrapped it' 
It took him a good 15 seconds to realise I was taking the piss, and then he stopped talking. Laugh
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Dec 14 00:47
LaughLaugh
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Dec 14 00:51
I said to one yank that I came from Scotland. He said his great granny aged 90 came from there and asked if I knew her. "Yes, I know her, a wee wifie with grey hair and glasses". "Yes", he said, "That`s her".
By:
john92
When: 07 Dec 14 00:56
Australian and New Zealand can easliy be told apart I think.
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Dec 14 00:58
John, sorry but I think most uk people would struggle, unless it was extreme examples.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 07 Dec 14 01:00
Indigenous white Londoners have different accents.
Not Sloane Rangers against eastenders,  that's too obvious.
But the minor differences can probably only be heard by fellow Londoners.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 07 Dec 14 01:04
john92    07 Dec 14 00:56 
Australian and New Zealand can easliy be told apart I think.


Not to a lot of Canadians.

Lost count of the number of times I was asked if I was from Australia. They must have severe hearing problems as I've got a 100% cockney accent.
New Zealand never got a mention, perhaps they don't know about it. Laugh
By:
alfee
When: 07 Dec 14 01:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij_5UGpjUsU
By:
alfee
When: 07 Dec 14 01:51
Silly
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 07 Dec 14 10:57
On the BBC now they are talking about the Pittsbug accent being voted the ugliest accent in the country.

This is strange as I can't really notice anything different about it, they have the southern accent, the Boston and New York accent, but traips across central us from coast to coast and the changes is not that noticeable, The American accent in general is quite broad, especially in comparison to the different English accents in what is a much smaller land mass, strange and probably unique when you think about it that you can pretty much tell which corner of the country or even city someone is from by their dialect, the Geordie, Scouse, Brummie, Mancunian, West Country and Cockney dialects are unmistakeable and are too strong for the Yanks to decipher, which is why whenever you see a Brit in an American Film or on an American TV show they are pretty much always the same stereotyped well spoken, middle class Brit that they can all understand, exception being Ozzy Osbourne who was a big TV star for a while but even then on many occassions they had to have subtitles when he was speakingLaugh
By:
Aunty Post
When: 07 Dec 14 11:17
One thing that seems to be common with all Scotts, is they are unable to say anything, without the word "wee" in it.

I think they are taking the p!ss!!!
By:
Aunty Post
When: 07 Dec 14 13:18
For example this, from an article about a sickening murder yesterday....

Victoria Thomson, who lived across the footpath, said: “She moved there a wee while ago, maybe last year.

“They definitely haven’t been there long.

“She lived there with her two children. The wee boy was five but that is all I know.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 07 Dec 14 13:42
got lost liverpool,pulled over asked for directions

scouse lad about 20

didn't understand a word he said

I said thx bud
By:
Coachbuster
When: 07 Dec 14 13:44
accents in England do change rapidly

there are 6 indigenous dialects within 50 miles of my doorstep (Essex or Mockney ,Coastal and rural  Suffolk,Ipswich,Fens,Norfolk,Standard RP English) all very distinctive in their own way - 20 if you include all the various East Europeans  Laugh

East Anglian accents do have a touch of Australian as Taxi noted ,  about his Cockney accent - East Anglian is basically Cockney in a singing style .

I would say there are as many as 50 distinct accents in England alone .

For the Stokies on here ,i find the accent a hard one to fathom ,maybe even a touch of Scouse and Manchester in there ? 
Coventry is the really hybrid one though - even a note of West country and East Anglian  if you listen very clearly  - possibly the only town where west country and Eastern meet .
By:
Coachbuster
When: 07 Dec 14 13:48
I'm a big fan of Scottish accents - took me a while to spot the differences - Highland my favourite
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Dec 14 15:51
No other country in the world has the diversity in accents that England has.
It has nothing to do with being familiar or close to a particular country.
England is exceptional in its range of accents.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 07 Dec 14 16:01
"got lost liverpool,pulled over asked for directions"

Had to go to Liverpool during the "passport crisis", as daughter was jetting off the following week.

No sat-nav back then, so had to stop a couple of times to ask directions.

Why is it that seemingly all "scousers" tell you what not to do first. E.g "when you get to the traffic lights, don't turn left, turn right"?

Sounds even worse, as they are all bunged up with a cold!
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