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By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 19:54
You can't beat that, being there for Dancing Brave - that's the best ever.

Laddies did a comp in the Sporting Life that year and you got £1 betting vouchers for every correct answer...or sometimes £5 or £10 or £20 win voucher for the Arc...think I spent about £20 buying 2nd class stamps for 12p...and I used to love getting up in the morning for the post, a slew of betting vouches - most of them DOUBLES on the Cambridgeshire / Arc...think Dallas won then all my vouchers went on to................Bering. Cry
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:00
It was odd because they didn't state "only one comp. entry per household." I got the whole family to fill in postcards with the answers - 1) Mill Reef...2)Allez France...3)All Along...they thought I was nuts......until THE VOUCHERS started arriving...! Excited

The betting shop manager had to make a phone call to HQ when I went in first thing on Saturday morning..."Whit the feck are these, son?" Laugh
By:
zilzal1
When: 08 Nov 14 20:04
BBC 4 NOW..Maps, Power
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:06
G'night Zilzal...see you next flat season...

Kenny Mann ------------> STEINLEN!
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:07
Velasquez     08 Nov 14 19:20 
Who the feck remembers Kerrera now?


I do! I backed Kerrera to beat one of Henry's (I think) in a race at Haydock (Sandy Lane maybe?) in a £10 sfc. My mate had same but to 3 quid. When he went to drag they gave him an amount similar to what I was expecting for my bet. Gave 'em my slip and instead of the £33.90 I was expecting, they gave me £83.90. Shockingly, we both kept it!
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:07
Think I was on a YTS at the time, in my defence!
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:08
Watching Dr. Who -- Capaldi bought my paintings.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:09
Thorn Dance was the hoss that came 2nd. I can't confirm the sfc divi tho!
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:10
Glad to see she did somebody a turn, Mikael.
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:12
Was Thorn Dance trained by Ben Hanbury? Seem to remember that...green and red colours...
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:13
Or maybe it was Cecil - can't remember - I'll have this on a dvd somewhere...
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:16
No, definitely was Henry. According to RP, was originally owned by Sheikh Mo, but he must've given it to his brother, Maktoum al Maktoum.

The Hanbury thing may've been Batshoof?
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:18
Thorn Dance.
Northern Dancer (CAN)  (10.5f) — Barb´s Bold (USA) (Bold Forbes (USA)  (11.3f))

I remember when I gave away my first Northern Dancer...
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:18
Grin That's it Mikael! Saved me a visit to the cupboard there...FFs...you're spot on.
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:22
You had to make a wee list of all the Northern Dancers in them days...$4 million one goes to Hern...£650,000 one went to Stoute......crappy $200,000 one went to Alec Stewart.....
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:26
I remember one of them had a debutant 4yo Northern Dancer that went off about 9/2. I'd not been betting too long but I thought 'this game is easy!'
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:33
Couldn't believe there was a book about Northern Dancer in our local library back then. The woman author had a chapter about Nijinsky and told the readers to pay special attention to chestnut sons of Nijinsky...next year, BINGO! Shahrastani and Ferdinand came along.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:34
The mind plays tricks...


1 9          Nabeel Dancer (USA) 10/1    4    8-9     A A Scott    —    *    *    »
Richard Hills
        

«    2 5    3      **** Sapien 9/1    7    10-0     D W Chapman    —    *    *    »
Kevin Darley
        

«    3 6    2      Perion 11/8F    7    10-0     G Lewis    —    *    *    »
G Starkey
        

«    4 4    ½      Colway Rally 20/1    5    10-0     J W Watts    —    *    *    »
Dean McKeown
        

Maybe I took 9/2 and watched it drift like a barge! Perion was a good hoss too.
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:37
Lammtarra...Generous a chestnut grand-son...will have to do some research about that biography of Northern Dancer...
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:38
I have that Northern Dancer, the legend and his legacy book somewhere. What a sire!

I posted pics elsewhere (that I can't now find) a couple of weeks ago, but did you ever see what happened to Windfields Farm?
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:39
Crikey...Alec Scott...Lammtarra...bookies paid out on his ante-post bet, didn't they? There was a film on YouTube where his wife talks about it...
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:41
Did it go bust?? Have a terrific book called WILD RIDE about Calumet Farm and Alydar - tragic story.
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:42
Also, THREE STRIDES BEFORE THE WIRE - Chris Antley and Charismatic - another cracking good read.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:46
The Alydar story makes me want to puke. Murdering bastards!
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:48
Not read either book though, will add 'em to the 'please don't buy me sh!te I don't want, get this instead' xmas list!
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:51
Laugh
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:55
Calumet have made a comeback in the last few years but the colours are black and orange or something, instead of "devil red" and blue...don't know what the score is there...maybe the unique colours were sold on at the bankruptcy sale...dunno...you're right, it is a hellish story, but everything was revolving around Alydar and falsely hyped stud values...it was horrendous.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:57
Still horrifies me that the best sire in the world, as Alydar arguably was at the time, was worth more dead than alive.

Anyway, here's a bit about Windfields. Click on the magnifying glass on the pic to see the other photos...

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/08/24/hero_racehorse_rests_among_the_weeds.html#article
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:57
Same with Ferdinand and Exceller ending up in meat markets - horrible - but the almighty $$$$ is the bottom line in the good ol' USA.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:58
Ferdinand ended up as dog food too. Sad
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 20:58
Ta, Miguel - off to have a look...
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 20:59
Ferdinand v Alysheba one of the grat BC battles...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8G8AR7TaM
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 21:00
"Miguel" FFS! Cry Spanish fookin' names! Cry

Apologies, Mikael -- will try that again :

Ta, Mikael - off to have a look! Grin
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 21:01
All the same to me. My real name is Easter!
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 21:02
Mikael - watched that last night, ffs! Scared -- also, a previous race with the two great foes and a horse called GOOD TASTE...epic...
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 21:04
Some guy on YouTube made an odd comment about Ferdy V Alysheba...will try to find it...
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 21:12
1988 SAN BERNADINO HANDICAP - "a forgotten classic" -- brilliant 3-way finish...Chris McCarron talks about Ferdinand's flopping ears...here is YouTube guy's comments :

"The difference between Alysheba and Ferdinand was the difference between great and very good. And that difference was heart and mind. Ferdinand was a pack animal,and would pull himself up when he made the lead.

He didn't understand winning. Alysheba was like that through his 3 year old season. And then, mentally, he started to get it. His win percentage jumped and he put together one of the great handicap seasons in the last 25 years. Ferdinand was talented, but there's a reason why he lost a lot."

Don't know if this is total gash or what...Plain...they only care about winners in America, that's for sure.
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 21:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZjyPzs0uTM

1988 SAN BERNADINO
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 08 Nov 14 21:21
Was looking for it as soon as you mentioned it. Never seen it before. What a fantastic effort by Good Taste too, though I've no idea how much weight he was getting from the two stars.

And yes, the guy was talking total gash. Merely 'talented' horses don't win Horse of the Year!
By:
Velasquez
When: 08 Nov 14 21:28
A nose or short head defeat and yer nuthin' but a bum! Cry
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