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Please ignore me this evening
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I've been a pro gambler since I was old enough Angel
I used to play fruit machines for a living until 2003 , I was always sports betting along side but never really made big money from it (lost 20k on horses etc in my early 20's which almost finsished me) but I started with 20k in the bank . the first time I ever played was via Coral betting site , I jumped into $2/4 cash games with only the slightest clue about the game , I'd played lots of cards in the past but online poker is so different , anyway I lost £500 in a week or two , players laughed at me for drawing so bad even when I scooped a big pot , it was fun , but I knew I had to quit after the £500 was lost  I stopped &thought about the game for a few weeks then started playing $10 sit n go's & won the £500 back in a few weeks , then realized that Coral was a Party poker skin so I signed up with party poker & within a few months I was one of the most aggressive players at $10/20 sng's & was winning virtually every game I don't even know what my Roi was Ovalman but it must've been 30%  There were no stats , charts or software back then , no forums , nobody multi tabled , I started playing 3 tables at a time which was brave back then  I was withdrawing 1k odd per month which was cool from low stakes to live on I think being a winning gambler already helped as I was used to earning a wage but looking back I was far too content with 'just a wage' I could've been making 5k per month if I'd of really pushed for more It wasn't until I started on pokerstars in 2007 that I was making decent money & by 2009/10 was making 30k per year (tax free) by 2011 I had over 100k in the bank (plus I'd paid all living expenses all that time - no benefits , housing etc , always had a car & used to waste an awful lot going out boozing etc) but it had taken over my life , to make that kina money you have to live & breath the game or you'll lose sight of what others are doing against you (as I say I've never needed software it never even existed) a lot of the newer players used it but never feel I needed to as they were the ones i was beating day in day out Money changes your life though as you start to think differently (for the worse imo) all my mates were renting or sharing houses & I had enough to buy one outright , I lost contact with lots of friends & even family start to turn on you , I was a good guy but people tend to start looking at you a bit differently I bought my flat last year but now hate the game & everything about it , I don't really ever want to play it again but am now stuck with being a pro gambler or nothing , every penny I've ever made or spent is from gambling but now think I'd be better off on the dole , I have nothing to gain any longer , if you've ever read the book Atlas Shrugged that's kinda how I feel now  |
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Your correct about the 30%, I remember being told when at 5k on Stars with a 14% ROI it was only 80% of it being correct. I've played 9,000 on Stars now but I'm going nowhere at the stakes you mention, I rarely play Stars any more. I look elsewhere for value, on Stars there isn't any.
Your also right about the 100 SnGs per day, I've no plans to be under the stress of being a rake back wh0re. You HAVE to play at least 50 to generate the VPPs, wouldn't it be better spent on improving your game? Most of your opponents have done so. Offered help? We've had discussions and I've listened to your thoughts but I think some are wrong. There is nothing wrong with any site's RNG for instance but you wont even check your stats to find out. The game has changed vastly but you can't see that. Margins are being squeezed, bad player either give up or improve. There is training sites, software and personal coaching. Everyone has moved up to your game of 5 years ago but you still think nothing has changed other than the bad beats you perceive. I respect your game and admire that you made it but I think you need a reality check. I also love the game and take it pretty serious as a profitable hobby. |
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Ovalman do you even know my game , are you just fishing for information or believe you're actually helping me out , I live & learn for myself , you don't seem to
 Now you call me r^keback wh0re I made 30k per year Game profit at supernova level for 5 years , that is not r^keback wh0ring which is all your old mates can do now  |
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30k UK not Dollars
supernova r^keback is $6800 (4k) per year I played lots Because it was Profitable , not for sh!tty r^keback OK |
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I could do supernova elite but have had enough of the game
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No worries McMoon.
Goodnight. |
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You either don't understand or you're taking the p^ss , which is it
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Yes I could've helped you , as it seems nobody else has ever bothered to , if you don't put the time in you'll make pennies it's that simple , whatever you've made in the last 10 years you could lose in a year , I couldn't
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hello moonbeam, intresting reading your thread, i tried playing poker once for large stakes at the time about 20yrs ago but had to
give up as every big hand or every big pot i got involved with my hands would visibly shake only slightly but beyond my control,  try reading stu ungars book " man behind the shades ", if you read at all its worth a look at... good luck glasgow. |
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Thanks Glasgow
I've read Stu Ungars other book 'One of a Kind' which is brilliant , try Devilfishes autobiography also he's a real character |
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I was up for some decent discussion tonight but I sense a lot of aggression.
I do OK from the game, make decent pocket money and put a lot of time into it as a profitable hobby. I'm not under the stresses like you are. You blame everything else except yourself for your losing sessions. It's pointless me telling you to put some time into analysing your game because a) you probably don't have any time because you have to fit those 50 games in and b) you don't trust the RNG even though I've given proof that the RnG is straight. Why don't you try live poker? It may be sociable and you can't use a HUD. Your opponents are constantly working on their game and picking holes in yours. I'm a big advocate of learning and it's the best way to improve. |
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I don't mean to be aggressive towards you Ovalman but you say the same things in every poker thread that's started on here & you talk to me like some novice
I did offer to help you before but you think you know everything due to a hud & a few stats You tell me to work on my game but you don't have to deal with gangs of cheats like I do , I played all the way though the Chinese scandal making 30k that year topping the leaderboards , I beat Chinese Mafia not $1 sngs (how many years have you played $1 for?) I honestly think you like to talk too much about the technical side of the game without fully understanding the mental/physical side of it I've always trusted the RNG & is only this last year I've doubted it (I do actually think it's straight) but I've lost all trust for the Industry , and if it was revealed next year that stars has cheated pro's out of millions I wouldn't be shocked at all , you would though although you've never played Do you know the uk players I talk of , do you know who I am , as I'm losing trust in you tbh |
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I never offered to help you , I offered to roll you with nothing in return & would've helped you along the way but all I get is your r^keback wh0re comments
Like I say I've made money until last year until I played more for r^keback , as I have learned the game has changed , not you , you only know what you read (too much) |
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You've got a cheek saying bad player or leave !
Many Top pro's have left , are they bad players too , no they just can't make millions any longer |
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I think we've had some reasonable discussion in the past and I thought I'd get some tonight but I get the same spiel from you.
No I don't know who you are or the players you talk of. We don't know each other (or maybe we do?) so no trust to lose. I'll respectively leave this thread and go back to my $1 games, as you say. Goodnight. |
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you've given proof that the RNG is straight , from 9,000 games (lifetime ?)
you say you don't even play on stars (because you can't beat it ?) we're talking at cross purposes tbh Good Luck |
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"do you know who I am"
 From a guy who posts on chit chat Great stuff and really did make me LOL  |
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Oi! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^We ALL know who YOU are!
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good luck Slippy
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Hear, hear
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I just wondered if he knew my Poker alias that's all
Ovalman i'm sorry if my post offended you (you're a good guy) like i said before i admire your dedication to the game , which is why i feel you're wasting your time at such small stakes but can also see why it's difficult for you to move up but the free money you talk of won't last forever , at some point you have to earn it with risk/reward I am stressed out from the game it's a tough living but i'm not really making many mistakes , maybe a few every 1,000 games as people get to know your game better over time , but there's really not much that stats would tell me otherwise The games just aren't as beatable as they used to be & know my downswing is probably just Extreme variance that can happen playing higher stakes , i don't think it's **** i just don't enjoy it like i once did , maybe if i learn to enjoy it again my results will improve again but still feel the game is slowly dying out with all these tighter regulations , players knowing each other etc .. it's not a fun game any longer for me which is why i get tired of talking about it |
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'I just wondered if he knew my Poker alias that's all'
-------------------------------------------------------- I know but it was the words 'do you know who I am' that made me laugh. Stay lucky |