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Mc Moonbeam
02 Nov 14 15:49
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By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 02 Nov 14 15:52
Why?
By:
themightymac
When: 02 Nov 14 15:56
You`ll regret it in the morning. Drink solves nothing, just makes things worse. Drink should be a social pastime, having a drink, a laugh and a joke with friends. Drinking for the sake of getting drunk is stupid. No offence intended, just a bit of advice.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 15:58
Hi Diva
Just very fed up with life & need to unwind Sad not had a drink all week though which is very good for me & am cooking a nice beef dinner for later to enjoy Love
Hope you're ok Happy
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 02 Nov 14 16:00
Well just have a couple of cans or glasses of wine or whatever it is you like.

You can still enjoy your evening without getting smashed out your head Happy
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 02 Nov 14 16:00
I'm fine thanks btw.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 16:01
Not got any friends left mac & even if I did go out I wouldn't get any dinner Scared
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 02 Nov 14 16:02
You need to do something interesting in order to make some new friends.

Friends are very overrated  in my opinion.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 16:07
I've known thousands of people in my time Diva , used to be a popular lad in my old town , but they all do you wrong in the end , the bigger person you are they all want a piece of you in one way or another , even family grind you down , maybe I like just getting drunk on my own , but it's a no win situation Sad
By:
themightymac
When: 02 Nov 14 16:08
LaughLaughLaugh MD

I was just thinking that myself.

They tap you and don`t pay back, pester you when you want peace and stick their noses in ones private business. Devil

People who have friends wish they didn`t and people with none wish they had Crazy

However, no man`s an island and humans are social animals and need to interact.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 16:11
However, no man`s an island

Funny you say that mac as I'm currently listening to Ben Howards album & as I read it blasted it out , class Cool
By:
themightymac
When: 02 Nov 14 16:14
Take it easy McMoon. I have to go. Happy
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 16:16
you too mate , take care !


even my Beef looks off Sad
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 17:01
cans gone .. now got a few nice bottles from Lidl .. Warlocks Broth & Autumn Blaze to experiment on Devil

I will cook my food sometime soon ...................
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 17:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcvsNro1lbM
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 17:41
I may join you later :)

Do you play poker when drinking?
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 17:47
No mate ... only PG Tips Happy

I'm considering quitting end of the year maybe make supernova  just to pay bills but there's no future in poker any longer unless you're an absolute world beater


Considering going pro gambler on here instead Cool
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 17:57
I don't trust stats any longer Ovalman

How can I go from being top 5 player in the world to 10k downswings Confused

Don't trust everything the industry tells you about variance
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 18:07
I do but generally only play MTTs when I do so. I certainly don't do my daily grind when boozing.

Just reading 2P2 this afternoon and my thinking is also changing about the game. Margins are being squeezed year after year. I can understand how your struggling as players are becoming better but also poker sites are trying to make those margins tighter. Those Spin and Goes are ruining it for Sit and Go players as all the fish are migrating to them. I don't play Stars much but I completed the Mission Week the other day and broke even at $1.50 6 Max STTs. Every table had 4 regs and I'd say long term it would be hard to make any sort of a profit even at these stakes without table selecting.

I'd reckon some time in the future, even the peasant stakes STTs will become unbeatable, cash tables will be full of unbeatable bots and only MTTs and other non standard games like Stud (where you can't use a HUD) will you be able to churn over any sort of a profit.

I still love the game, I make decent pocket money from it but it would be hard to go pro in the current climate.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 18:14
As I said McMoon, I think you've went stagnant, the game has evolved and players have got better. If someone picks up a stat/ tell on you they will exploit it every time. I still make loads of mistakes but I target players who make more than me. I also try and plug those leaks that I make every day. It's a never ending process of learning.

I also think table selection is the most important thing you can do to help your win-rate. Avoid decent players and only play games where you have decent notes on opponents. A table full of regs (even bad ones) is really hard to beat. Chase those whales as it's the bad players who make you money. You don't make money by your own brilliance but by the mistakes of others.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 18:14
Players aren't better though , the very top players are terrible , but definitely not weak so they will beat out the weaker players , but I'm not one of them .

If I showed you all my bad beats for the day you wouldn't really believe it , and this is every day , every week , 365 days of the year , now I Fully understand variance unlike some , but this borders on criminality .
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 18:17
No offence Ovalman , but you just fear stronger players , the fact is I can play them , and outplay them , it's the bad beats that kill me , nothing else !!
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 02 Nov 14 18:26
Hope you are OK McM, the loose cannons on line make it tough when they play rubbish and don't understand the percentages. My Ma is in intensive care again, I don't think she'll get out of this time Cry
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 18:27
But you don't keep records or use tracking software to know. The amount of sets I've run into these past couple of days is unbelievable but I know it's just part of the overall way our brain is wired to notice them. I know when I run the races report that the stats will be within the norm. You should download and pay for HEM or PT just to analyse your own play, it only costs a fraction of your daily turnover. You can keep the HUD switched off if you need to, I done this at the start when I first used it.

And yes, I avoid decent players, you don't win money from players of a similar ability to yourself. You win money from players making mistakes.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 18:27
^^ sorry to hear that Slippy
By:
boxingthefox
When: 02 Nov 14 18:32
MC, no advice from me I got smashed Fri night just to give my head a rest, as said earlier it doesn't help, but for a few glorious hours.................................Cool
Slippy very sorry to hear that.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 18:43
Hey Slippy
I'm very sorry to hear that , I read a few months back she wasn't well , but was in too bad of a state myself at the time to take it all in & reply to you , as with your offer of a phone call which I still appreciate & would be happy for a quick chat whenever you feel like it as I consider you a good friend Happy

but maybe it's for the best Sad

Keep your chin up mate , any Nfl bets this evening ?
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 18:52
I have used tracking software in the past Ovalman , but I had a 7% Roi which was as Solid as it gets online , then dropped to 5% with more volume which was decent , now my Roi isn't even visable , so maybe more valuable , or just downright deceiving

Whatever my Allin percentage is it's not right , though you're right players are a lot tougher as a Whole , not individually

I'm going to get my stats from stars at the end of this year

But every player I know has had HUGE downswings the latter part of this year (Amaya took over on September 30th)

It just feels completely Surreal to me , every decent hand gets beta time & time again , it's nothing to do with SKILL , and remember I've played for 10 years with only a couple of losing months in TEN YEARS , that's why I don't need software !
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 18:57
Fair play to you Fox , I find getting completely smashed kinda resets my clock , I can be normal again Monday ermmm Afternoon Laugh
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 19:01
The Autumn Blaze was nice .. now for the Warlocks Broth Devil
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 02 Nov 14 19:06
Call me anytime McM, just not in a good place right now mate. Ma said to me she wants to die. I just burst into tears which didn't really help matters a great deal.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 19:15
I'm sorry to hear that mate

It was the other way around for me telling my mom I wanted to die , but she doesn't help matters at all , my dad tried to kill me , try living with that Sad

I will give you a call or call me any time , but I'll text first ok , stay strong mate at least you're on good terms .
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 19:18
You can be the 10th best player in the World and lose money if you keep going up against the other 9 players. The game HAS developed, just look at the amount of training sites, Youtube videos, free and chargeable material. There's even specialised forums that target things like Sit and Go's and push/ fold charts that most of the ABC regs are using. Things you were doing right 5 years ago, most of the regs have caught on to so you have to stay 1 step ahead.

Remember it's all an economy, the bad players feed better players who in turn feed better players ect all the way up. At micro stakes it used to be 10% rake but over the past couple of years, most sites have increased that to 20%. That is a HUUUUUGE difference and stops many winning players without the rake into losing players, in turn it stops feeding further up the food chain. Most players nowadays are not rich fish, they are players that can beat the 20% rake and have the ability to move up.

One other point, on Betfair (Pokerchamps) we didn't realise how soft it was in compared to other sites like Full Tilt and Pokerstars. There were a lot of average players, me included, that had it really easy on here and could easily make a profit. I certainly noticed I couldn't make the same profits when we first moved to Ongaming and it was only 1 decent MTT win that made me any sort of money (which was a Betfair only MTT funnily enough.) Back then I couldn't even work out my pot odds but it didn't matter, players were so bad. I've found things a lot easier on I-Poker but that's because most of the skins are tied to gambling sites like Betfair. My game has also improved, I haven't stayed static, I've used a few of those training sites and watched Youtube videos. If I can find those useful videos then so can my opponents, it's a never ending game of learning.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 19:32
I take your point Ovalman , but I was always ahead back than , I'm self taught I put a lot of work in my early days to improving Fast so I've never ever used training sites or push/fold charts , they're for breakeven or learning players Imo

I used to crush Partypoker & betfair mtt's for that matter , but when I moved to stars in 2007 I couldn't believe how tough players were , I was playing the likes of Spacegravy/ Daleroxxu etc at $20 sngs back then , so I learnt fast again Cool

I used to get tons of abuse from the poker forum on here so stopped posting , though there were many very talented players on here like Dubai , but I now play a fair few of the old betfair players on stars , but am sure many (not just uk) play in teams , and stars do nothing about it as it'd be negative for them to ban supernova + players !
By:
Ovalman.
When: 02 Nov 14 19:56
Many were only decent on here because all of the players were so bad. In hindsight, I think very few of us were any good, average at best but the majority of the players were so bad and full of gamblers it was hard not to make a profit simply by playing a tight aggressive Sit and Go game.

I'm also self taught and have never used a push/ fold chart (although I have seen a few) but I've also delved into my own game and had a few hand histories analysed by other players. I've also participated on other training forums where I feel you can learn a lot by participating. Some of my biggest AHA moments have been by inadvertently posting something wrong and being ridiculed. I think my game has improved massively over the past few years even though my ROI has dropped from 30% on Pokerchamps to around 8% - 12% on all sites now.

I think low/ mid stakes are still beatable but there will become a point where it won't be. I target certain promotions for added money and overlays, I think that's a way to keep making a profit in this game.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 20:37
You're wrong imo , there were some of the best players around on betfair back in the days , many have progressed & made a lot of money in their own area's

I feel you're stuck in your ways , you haven't had enough desire to progress , I mean how can you fear players at $1 sng's , every player at your level is a fish , only there because they can't play any higher with any consistency

30% Roi's are the things dreams are made of , you only have that because you win a few then don't play any further , try playing 100 sngs per day & you'd be lucky to make 5% in the same games

I offered to help you before but you seemed to ignore me , but bang on about stats , software (that I'm not needing) & how you basically steal money from promotions against lesser players

Poker's not about stealing money at 30% Roi as it adds upto nothing more than a grand or so , it's about playing to the highest you can at the best you can & then you'll see how much you can really make , although times are a lot tougher nowadays at all levels granted , but if I couldn't win at any better than $30 sngs (and I mean at least 50 per day) I'd pack up & walk away tomorrow
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Nov 14 20:51
Moonbeam, can you go back to when you first started playing poker and how it changed your life and to where you are now.

Cheers.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 02 Nov 14 21:21
The only reason I went pro was because I had to , no job , no future otherwise , win or die basically , until you've been in that situation I doubt you'll never really understand what it takes to be a pro
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Nov 14 21:24
How much money did you start off with?
By:
crags
When: 02 Nov 14 22:16
NLaughever have to wait too long till moony starts an attention seeking thread?  Great title for this one!
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