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Virgin
16 Oct 14 10:03
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What a rip-off

2 Adults Day return booked 5 weeks in advance Darlington to NEC £132 and the journey back is overnight (8 hours) Crazy

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By:
Gin
When: 16 Oct 14 10:08
Try using this - you might get cheaper tickets
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http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/split-cheap-train-tickets/
By:
Joel
When: 16 Oct 14 10:13
I paid over 100 quid to go from London to Newcastle, most seats were reserved so I stood the entire way. Great stuff.
By:
Facts
When: 16 Oct 14 10:20
I assume the reserved seats were all taken up ?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Oct 14 10:37
If there is no one using a reserved seat and there are no others unoccupied then use it.
Many passengers reserve a seat then sit somewhere else.
They only reserve a seat to guarantee getting one.
By:
Virgin
When: 16 Oct 14 10:48
Gin thanks I shopped around for a couple of hours CrazyI have used the splitter before with good savings ...alas this one was only £4.80 cheaper

They are all the same really travel at an inconvenient time and save a few ££

I need to find www.faredodger.com Devil
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 16 Oct 14 10:58
I quite like travelling by train but I can't get my head around how expensive it is despite still receiving a public subsidy.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 16 Oct 14 10:58
It's virgin on the ridiculous
By:
Joel
When: 16 Oct 14 11:09
I was going to use them but supposedly they were booked for a corporate Christmas function, who were supposed to get on in a few stops so I didn't bother.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Oct 14 11:45
The whole process of booking tickets is a mess.
I just checked an off peak return ticket from Wolverhampton to Stansted Airport for Friday 7 November £64.90

I removed the return journey and it came to £28.

This is with the aid of a computer. What chance has anybody got if they're not savvy  or haven't got internet access?
You still pay through the nose if you know what you're doing.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Oct 14 11:46
^I should add that the return journey was for the following Monday.
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 16 Oct 14 12:28
Cheltenham to Edinburgh costs silly money. 100 quid or something like that.

But if you have your wits about you the best thing to do is to split the journey up. Example - Single to Birmingham is 8 quid. Birmingham to York 20 quid. York to Edinburgh the same. You dont have to change at the stations the train goes direct to Edinburgh but you save yourself 50 quid just by getting 3 tickets instead of one.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 16 Oct 14 12:49
But if you have your wits about you the best thing to do is to split the journey up.

I heard this recently on the radio. Absolute madness
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 16 Oct 14 12:52
It might well be but if it saves you 50% of the original train fare then it's a worthwhile exercise.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 16 Oct 14 12:59
I agree. What's madness is the ticketing and price structure
By:
guinness2dear
When: 16 Oct 14 13:01
The madness is people paying extortionate prices. And no matter how many value seekers there are, there's even more eejits..
By:
Stow_judge
When: 16 Oct 14 13:06
How do they justify the xmas ticket rip off? A lad at work travels from K Cross to Newcastle ca. 8 times per year to watch the footie.
For xmas week, the prices double.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 16 Oct 14 13:16
The one and only way to sort this out is for a prolonged boycott, hitting them straight in the wallet is the only thing they understand like any business, otherwise they will continue to extract as much money out of their customers as they think they can get away with for as long as they can get away with, of course the likeliness of a long term boycott is slim considering how much people rely on trains, still if you can use any alternative you should
By:
mad mad moon
When: 16 Oct 14 14:07
How do companies like the Trainline.com make their money? Their adverts are on all the time.
I assumed they just work out all the loopholes,, and add a percentage, but every time I've
checked them out they are always exactly the same price as the train companies.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 16 Oct 14 14:10
Commission? Avertising?
By:
Platini
When: 18 Oct 14 16:42
2nd biggest ripoff in the UK (behind energy). If you travel any kind of distance, its cheaper to fly - that's just madness Angry
By:
everythings gone green
When: 18 Oct 14 17:32
You get £10 at Red Spotted Hanky for £5 of Tesco Clubcard vouchers. Tickets are cheap there as well.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Oct 14 17:38
I just did a little exercise on the nationalrail website.

Wolverhampton to Blackpool.
Off peak return leaving on the 7 Nov returning on the 14 Nov = £50.50

Two singles = £40.

National Express coaches would want £31 for the trips.
11 hours traveling time for the two trips on the coach against 4hours 49mins on the train, making the train far more appealing.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 18 Oct 14 17:40
The one and only way to sort this out is for a prolonged boycott, hitting them straight in the wallet is the only thing they understand like any business, otherwise they will continue to extract as much money out of their customers as they think they can get away with for as long as they can get away with, of course the likeliness of a long term boycott is slim considering how much people rely on trains, still if you can use any alternative you should


Best doing one those flash mob thingys.  Get a load of people to jump on the train before departure without paying...then the train company will have to call the police to get them off the train making the whole train network in gridlock..
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Oct 14 18:52
i saved £20 by 'getting off' at Coventry and 'getting back on' the train again

split journeys are often cheaper
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Oct 14 18:56
Always gets me when people book tickets online.
for a normal day ticket from my station to london
They normally end up paying more via trainline etc etc
as they charge a booking fee
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Oct 14 18:58
Yes coach that is possible the only reg is the train must
stop at the station you get the split at,you dont need to get off the train.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Oct 14 19:15
thats true you don't witham - but used the getting off theme as a joke - because the system is the joke Happy

just prays on the not so intelligent  everytime - and that's not fair , they work just as hard ,if not harder than anyone else to start with  Sad  - there will one day be a law against it -
By:
wit-ham
When: 18 Oct 14 21:19
hope so,imo due to privatisation the left hand don't know
what the right hand is doing.
checked other day Witham-Milton K peak £49.90 return
from Stratford its £44.90 i think yet from Brentwood
it;s £42 (stratford is the nearest)

Stratford from Witham peak £30.00
Brentwood is £15 no idea the price setters
By:
jamov
When: 20 Oct 14 22:56
buying a "two together" railcard for £30 would have saved £44 on the fare so a net saving of £14 on this trip plus a third off any future ones in the next year
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 21 Oct 14 12:58
Got a phone call late on the Monday night before Royal Ascot this year. A mate was hosting a corporate event and had had a drop out, asked me if I wanted a free day at the races. The day return from York was £200 and I'd be lucky to have seen the last race given the return times. Assuming my usual success rate of backing at big flat meetings, my free day out would've cost me in the region of a monkey. I passed.
By:
mange
When: 21 Oct 14 13:30
My boy Liverpool to London..............standing all the way.............I got him to write in asking In the event of a crash would this affect his safety & if so how.........................Im shure he got a freeby..............
By:
Platini
When: 22 Oct 14 14:01
"you dont need to get off the train."

True, but you often have to move seat Laugh
By:
bongo
When: 22 Oct 14 23:28
Too many people scuttling round britain on trains using railcards; forces, OAPs, disabled, students. Distorts the market, contributes to overcrowding, and is punitive on those who don't qualify who have to pay 50% more for the same outcome. Also punitive on forces, OAPs, disabled and students who don't like trains or make journeys between places that don't have them
The nanny state should cut the administration of these subsidies, stick the money equivalent on the relevant wages, benefits and loans, and let the market decide.

Free up a few seats for the rest of us.
By:
DartsnBooze
When: 23 Oct 14 20:27
Adding an extra carriage seems the most logical solution?

Split fares...I had the joy of doing such a thing in 1990...24 years ago (25 in Jan) Laugh

Travelled on an overnighter to Aberdeen. Return journey was Aberdeen to Glasgow. Glasgow to over the border and home. I worked it out it would be cheaper to buy split tickets, so I bought tickets from Aberdeen to Dundee, Dundee to Glasgow. The train pulled into Dundee on the way to Glasgow, i never got off the train, just carried onto Glasgow.

WALOFS Devil

P.S. I had a seat on all journeys.
By:
11kv
When: 23 Oct 14 21:29
What u going to see Virgin Cars or Bikes ?
By:
bongo
When: 23 Oct 14 22:05
'
http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/FAQ/Why-cant-you-just-put-an-extra-carriage-on/

Adding more carriages makes practical sense, especially if there's a concert on or some other major event. The operators want more subsidy to provide extra carriages though if they are to be made available immediately as they have to come from somewhere else. With the government spending more than it has ever had in its best ever year for a record 11th year in a row, anything increasing govt spending even further has to be done very selectively indeed.
By:
wit-ham
When: 24 Oct 14 21:40
the problem with adding more carriages is a lot of the platforms at smaller
stations are to short and often the last two carriage doors dont open at
certain stations.even more will miss the stop they want not listening to announcements
not to use last two/three carriages.
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Oct 14 22:03
If you don't like Trainfare, try BusDaq? Laugh
By:
bigH
When: 24 Oct 14 22:34
it's not all bad.

Last year I got the caledonian flyer ( overnight from London Euston to Inverness) with a sleeper berth for £19
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