Oscar Pistorius sentenced today, how many years will he get ?

HH....with dum dum bullets.

indeed

how can you say a judge is thick ffs ^^^^^ further up the thread. Maybe out of touch but that isn't thick.

you'd be forgiven for thinking Oscar was the victim here

place your bets...........3 years for me (thats what i think the judge will give him, not what i think).

Judge isn't thick obviously. But she has ' judged ' this case very badly imo. She has literally based everything ( to the letter )against the law books, and has been absolutely deaf and blind to the evidence presented by the prosecuting council.
Globally she has been heavily criticised. She got it wrong. OP should be facing a sentence related to murder.

the whole thing has been a disgusting spectacle - the Steenkamp family have had their noses rubbed in it

he won't spend one night in prison

Not at this rate he won't!

What's next if he does get a jail term - a 6 day hearing to decide what route to drive to the prison?

The judge will be unwell on Tuesday and will reconvene in January next year nap.

Today's the day

Talk about dragging it out..this dame sure likes her 15mins of fame.

custodial 1.01

Aye he's going down, just how long.

I shall guess at 4

Spread is 3.75-4.25, G2D!

unders/overs market?

Necklacing imo.

WTHF is she going on about. Talk about droning..

She's never seen anyone as 'devastated and remorseful.' Poor lamb.

Looking more and more likely he's getting the SA equivalent of an ASBO.

She's quoting from 2 previous cases. We can but hope the 2nd case is more damning.

He knows he's going.

Sounds like he's not going to prison??

Well he does now she's said that a suspended sentence would be inappropriate! I must admit, I wasn't expecting her to say that after the lengthy preamble.

3 years I reckon

Mikael. this is a marathon!

oooh...

5 years!

ooooooh 5

with a possible 3 more....

Damn, year out

does 5 years mean 5 years in south africa or will he be out in 2 and half like the uK ?

He may be released after 10 months

Not serve a day, surely. Will appeal for sure on that sentence. Watch this space. Even the pro's couldn't agree.

Has to serve one sixth of the sentence, before parole is considered. So potentially could be out of prison after 10 months !

I don't agree with the 'experts' saying she has given a balanced sentence. As the most he could have got was 15, then a properly balanced sentence would have been 7 and a half.

Keep up Facts.

Should have hired ojs lawyers he would have ended up getting compensation for police harrasment.

As the commentator just said 5 years is a heavy sentence for culpable homicide. Must appeal because this looks heavy handed. One man cannot be used as a weapon against society because they have awful gun crime figures.

I agree, 5 years can be seen as too lenient. The judge made a case of showing mercy to OP.
He didn't show Reeva much mercy did he ?

Had she set amuch lower sentence then appealing wouldn't be necessarily considered butthe length of this sentence forces his hand.

Could be out after 10 months. This isn't parole as such - remainder of sentence is under 'correctional supervision'.

guinness2dear     21 Oct 14 09:47 
Keep up Facts.


I am doing. A number of posters have made the point recently that a thread is not being visibly  updated quick enough. I.e one assumes you are replying to the very last post, when in reality, after submitting the reply, you find one of more precede yours !

I think the opposite. Metinks he will be hobbling with delight at 5 years.

5 years, what a result he's had there.  Seemed to fall in line with the expectations from both sides

Or maybe it is parole? Not sure but certainly could be out after 10 months

Except in this case Facts.

I dont think he would have been found guilty if, after he had done the deed, he had sent her home in a taxi.

Sorry, wrong thread.

guinness2dear     21 Oct 14 09:54 
Except in this case Facts.

???

The ANC womens group have been supporting the family and flying them to the trial. On top of the fact OP has been paying them on a monthly basis because they had no money. This is not a done deal. In my opinion. Seems likegroups like the Women's ANC are putting pressure on the courts for sentencing of famous people, gun crime and crimes against women. There is lot more to this but there you go. There but for the grace etc.

Defence spokesperson suggesting it'll be 10 months inside and the rest under house arrest

Disgusting

Out in 10 months? he could be back in training in time for the Rio Olympics,

brigust1     21 Oct 14 09:57 
The ANC womens group have been supporting the family and flying them to the trial. On top of the fact OP has been paying them on a monthly basis because they had no money. This is not a done deal. In my opinion. Seems likegroups like the Women's ANC are putting pressure on the courts for sentencing of famous people, gun crime and crimes against women. There is lot more to this but there you go. There but for the grace etc.


I hope you're not suggesting that anyone of us should be grateful , because we all have the potential to find ourselves in a similar predicament ? Because that is just nonsense.

Defence team seem happy to me. Would be amazed if they appeal.

Why on earth would they appeal what is basically a 10 month jail sentence !

Oscar was on the phone to OJ

10 months !!

OJ  is currently serving 33 years I doubt he will be giving him too many tips !

33 years for robbery. None for murder.

Whether the prosecution appeal is another matter though..

33 years for armed robbery but will be out before 10, that seems near the mark unlike OP's sentence which is a joke

How the hell her parent's must be feeling now to know their daughter's life was only worth 10 months, trial was a joke, got off very lightly indeed, disgusting !

Justice systems vary so much throughout the world.

In the UK he would have been given life. In the USA he would have gotten a book deal and his own chat show. The Saffers are somewhere in between..

what on earth was this poor girl doing with such an unbalanced man!!??

Same thing Debbie McGee sees in Paul Daniels.

that arrogant man supposedly the head of the pistorius family !!!

It's Pistorius as victim - sickening

About the most that could be expected in the circumstances. 

I would still love someone to explain to me how it was reasonable to assume that he could fire a load of shots through a locked door without expecting to do some damage to the person behind it, as the judge previously suggested.... 

A farce from start to finish.

Dont worry big Leroy will get him in jail

pistorius uncle on TV - seems to have no idea what a result the whole thing has been for his nephew

Are there bulletproof doors in SA prison crappers?

What is the point spending 4 or 5 days deliberating a sentence in the highest court in the land (and potentially an appeal) when it can be discounted by 5/6th at the whim of a parole board?

scandanavian, on your point about the rio olympics, he has already been banned from comps for the 5 yrs by their olympic associations.

...some with a bit of sense then.

a joke of a trial and a joke of a sentence all he will do is 10 months for a life

I knew he was banned from competing till 2019 but it could have been overturned if he appealed to the court of arbitration for sport, and considering he could be a free man whose done the time required, I would have imagined he'd have a strong case

No Athletics promoter would ever dare to allow the bastard to compete at any event where there's a payment required.

Meanwhile,contrary to my beliefs,I hope that the 'gangster fellow' arranges for someone to give him his 'due desserts'.

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Very surprised Reeva's family felt 'justice was done'.

A ludicrous sentence.

a circus from start to finish

manslaughter is when you punch someone, they hit their head on the pavement and it ends up killing them. no intent to kill but you've caused their death

what it isn't is firing 4 shots through a door into an enclosed space where any reasonable person would know death or serious injury was a near certainty

Yep. Justice hasn't been done, or been seen to be done by today's verdict.
A guilty of murder verdict would have been correct imo. The fact that the judge saw it as manslaughter is one thing. But she could have sentenced him to 15 years. 5 years, where he only has to serve one sixth, before likely release on parole is a travesty.makes a complete mockery of the system. The evidence presented by the prosecution, was, to the most part ignored by the judge. She seemed intent on basing her judgement solely on historic cases as per the law book.

will give him chance to write a book & get himself a few quid....................

About time that Old Lady was turned out to grass ffs.

"I knew he was banned from competing till 2019 but it could have been overturned..... I would have imagined he'd have a strong case"

Not really, because he was sentenced to 5 yrs, so surely no question they would overturn it within that time.  But the way this has gone nothing would surprise me.  Justice has not been done and he has got off very lightly indeed,  and if he did ever return to sport I'm sure there would be a lot of hostile feeling against him, and rightly so.  And even this 10 mths in jail looks like being a soft option on the hospital wing away from other prisoners in his own cell.  The whole trial was a sick joke !  And that old woman judge !!

If he gets out on tag i hope they're clever enough to put it on his wrist and not his ankle.

despite wot the family wanted........................they were stumped...................

Prosecution appealing...

The judge's critics have argued that dolus eventualis includes the possibility of meaning to kill one person and ending up killing another, our correspondent says.

This is what annoyed me at the time, the judge seemed to be of the logic because he couldn't foresee it was Reeva then he's not guilty where as the natural interpretation is that the person is irrelevant and he could foresee the possibility of killing someone even if it had been an intruder and proceeded anyway

I am on Pistorius side myself

well someone has to be or these gets boring

We live in a society where women get everything they want, I like to see a society

which allows men to get the best of things occasionally

A disappointing response

apart from Ken who thinks I am mad..could be

Anyway the prosecution are appealing....which I never approve of myself..it is a vindictive form of justice
does us no good

so he may yet get more

As for ever competing for S.Africa again I would be very surprised

Judge dismissed claims for an appeal against sentence but can appeal murder acquittal

Saffer justice system keeps on truckin.

How the holy phuck when you appeal do you go back in front of the same judge?

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Prosecution appealing...

The judge's critics have argued that dolus eventualis includes the possibility of meaning to kill one person and ending up killing another, our correspondent says.

This is what annoyed me at the time, the judge seemed to be of the logic because he couldn't foresee it was Reeva then he's not guilty where as the natural interpretation is that the person is irrelevant and he could foresee the possibility of killing someone even if it had been an intruder and proceeded anyway

They got there at least, albeit a year late.  Amazing a case can all hinge on a (mis)interpretation like that

And here we go again. He's going back for sentencing to the same geriatric judge..

Jesus Christ on a Friday!! they're giving her a second chance to fck it up, she was a social worker before becoming a judge, says it all..

Minimum sentence is a 15 stretch unless there are exceptional circumstances.

Is being a white celebrity athlete 'exceptional circumstances'?

He'll get off lightly - he'll be out after 5 years whatever time he's given from this appeal.

Ken Masters - 'Same thing Debbie McGee sees in Paul Daniels.'

Spot On - awful man - one of the most hated in show business!

So, if he gets off lightly, he'll be leaving the appeal court with a spring in his step!