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So sorry dragon. It is a truly hideous thing. My Dad works with dementia patients every day. Some of the things he says are just so sad.
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Sorry to hear Dragon.
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I'm sorry to hear that TD. I've never had much dealings with it myself (luckily), but my sister in laws father has it, and he doesn't even know who she is. It must be truly heartbreaking.
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my dad was such a great guy scored agoal in the kop end for :Liverpool boys great footballer, had his own business great marriage 4 sons and now hes abusive to my mum, doesnt know his sons and in a place that is awful totally terible
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we are living too long and the brain cannot cope
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and the care home costs £650 per week, pre that he had to had private care at £1000 per week
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all h-is monet gone in care costs
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In such extreme cases, death would be so much fairer to everybody involved. All you can do is be there for your mum.
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Death seriously ?
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sad to hear dragon.
my gran had it but she was a happy sufferer....she forgot loads of stuff. she would ask where her mother was etc....didnt know what to say..obviously she had died years ago. hear storied of people who can get agressive or rebelious with the disease. must be hard for the sufferers and families. |
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Sorry to hear that TG.
My elder sister suffered similar following a series of strokes. She, and those around her, suffered four years of helplessness till we finally lost her to cancer. Some years ago, on business, I met with a lady in her beautiful home. Outside, on a very cold day, was her husband just sweeping and sweeping, with his nose dripping and getting nowhere. She told me that was what he did every day. Then she showed me photographs of him in his RAF officers uniform. A tall and handsome man reduced to what he was on that day. Heartbreaking to see, but I found out that just a couple of months later he was gone! |
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Exactly the same as my dad, Dragon.
The irony is that once he'd finally gone into care he thrived for another seven years in that state until finally succumbing to a heart attack. My mum meanwhile, having finally been relieved of the burden of living with and caring for him in that state, died of leukaemia within a couple of years. His only other relatives were a couple of brothers-in-law, who visited twice a year. Two of his friends visited once and clearly did not like what they found. So I visited every week or two for half an hour. It was pointless visiting more frequently or for longer, as he would just get agitated and I would just be doing my own head in and make matters worse. I never really got a grip on what I should do or say or how to react. Bear in mind that his experience of the care home, however unpleasant it feels to you, will be very different. Time and space will have lost all meaning for him, with his brain unable to add context and no longer functioning beyond what's immediately before him. So my advice, from my experience and in my circumstances, would be to steel yourself and limit visits and interaction to whatever feels reasonably comfortable for you. Don't start feeling guilty that you're not doing enough or should be "helping" in some way. If you get out of your comfort zone, you might find your presence becoming counter-productive. But that's just me and my dad. You'll just have to find out what works for you. For both your sakes try not to get frustrated if that's not quick or straightforward. |
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...or even TD
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My Dad has it ,but he still recognises me and my brothers, and i think he is as happy as can be expected, as Jockey says, sometimes I think it may be a way of coping with old age.
I would guess that half the people in his home have it, but I have more sympathy for the ones who dont have it, and are in there for physical reasons, as they have too much time to reflect on their life, and know that they are just there waiting to die. |
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Sorry to hear this dragon, met many people with this illness in my work.
Dont think their is any solution myself, just parts of the body giving up as they normally would. |
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dad is 84 and mum 85 they are old and getting to the end but it still hurts
morale is enjoy life coz it soon goes |
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MadVlad 03 Oct 14 20:05 Joined: 23 Feb 12 | Topic/replies: 7,386 | Blogger: MadVlad's blog
Death seriously ? Yes. Seriously. If you think otherwise, I'd be astonished it you'd ever encountered anyone in this state. |
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Friends of ours, mother had it. Her husband was looking after her for a long time but finally had to admit her into care. He died of a heart attack 2 days later.
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great ages though dragon.
On the plus side you could well annoy us for another 30 years I had to go to visit my nan in the week, her 84th birthday on thursday. She is so sprightly i can still wind her up, she still gives back, made me smile, Grandad who is 80 ent so well. But they have been on borrowed time for ages now, every year is a plus unless they are suffering. |
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Not judging,was a serious question.
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Fair enough, Vlad.
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On a lighter note, my Dad has recently told me things from his childhood that he didnt think worth telling me before, but now mentions as matter of fact.
He recently told me that as a 14 year old, he and his Dad pulled a Polish pilot out of a burning plane on their field (his Dad was a farmer), who had crash landed on route to the local airfield. Sadly the pilot died soon after. |
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remember popping round me nans one sunday afternoon and her old friend from school had been brought round by her career....she also had dementia.
we were all sitting down for tea n biscuits nattering away carers and all and my nans friend asks "do i know you?" to my nan....this is after they were laughing and chatting away lol. my nan replies...."come to think of it who are you?". i looked at my Aunt who looked after my nan and we had to hold ourselves back from laughing....they were both smiling away like cheshire cats lol |
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you have to remenber they wewre as young as us one day
moral is enjoy life |
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Indeed, and accept life when it ends.
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so many of us tend to go that way with age, as well, hope I don't end up the same, but I fear I may. The saddest thing of all is looking at old photos of our dearest ones when they were younger.
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my dad has this horrible thing as well,luckily still recognises all the family.
My mother has to watch him 24/7 now though,cant go anywhere on his home,so sad at times watching him almost just staring into space. all in the space of three years,downhill all the way,could cry at times. |
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sad news dragon, keep ur spirits up
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accept life before death, and then enjoy death
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sorry to here that mate.....it's one bastárd of an illness........
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Dragon I can only wish you & your family all the very best.
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thanks for the kind wishes guys much appreciated, poor mum has bee to hell and back with it, so much she said she wd rather him have cancer than this
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Not sure you would in all honesty td.
Cancer can take anyone at any age, you should look at the positives no matter how bad it seems now, he has at least made it to a decent age. Cancer is a horrible end to someones life imho. |
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screaming from beneaththewaves 03 Oct 14 20:32
MadVlad 03 Oct 14 20:05 Joined: 23 Feb 12 | Topic/replies: 7,386 | Blogger: MadVlad's blog Death seriously ? Yes. Seriously. If you think otherwise, I'd be astonished it you'd ever encountered anyone in this state. My Mother suffered horribly in a number of care homes, before she finally passed away. I could write a book on her,and the way this terrible disease changed her completely, and the agonising effect it had on my Dad. Her death was a blessed relief, believe me. |
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Insidious disease - my mother had early onset dementia when in her late 40s - she lived (if you can described it as such) for several years and died in 1980 - my dad looked after her at home excepting the last few months as she fell & broke a leg and was in hospital - believe me her death was a release - there is no life when you don't even comprehend what is happening around you & you can't eat, clean or do anything without complete assistance
my sister died of cancer 3 years ago & that was also horrendous - you just hope you can enjoy life for as long as possible without major problems in terms of health worries - believe me if you have your health you have everything you will ever need |
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Agreed geordie.
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Some very honest posts on here. It seems dementia hits many more people (directly or indirectly) than I thought.
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wicked disease dad cant feed himself, toilet himself dress ,shave himself and so on, the worst part was/is his aggression and violence to mum after 57 years very happy marriage seems like a different person
![]() he seems to be fading fast mum reckons he wont see the year out, now got a letter from the company who run the home he is in saying there have been safegaurding issues at the home ffs!!! |