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By:
call me a taxi
When: 23 Nov 14 23:48
Even more strange that Mitchell could have taken 'gardening leave' but chose to resign from his job in full, to assist the McCanns.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 23 Nov 14 23:52
This question of why the McCann's get a hard time is an interesting one. I think it is because we are part of the internet age where people share opinions freely and those opinions help form a narrative which is at odds from the one which the press would usually seek to portray. In the old days there were few of the red flashing lights relating to the parents and so they would have had unlimited sympathy because they are photogenic, middle class, together and associated with the caring professions. People could in theory relate to them as individuals and a family unit.

The problem is this goodwill was squandered by their and especially Gerry's odd behaviour and by the simple fact that they were grossly negligent parents. People can make all the excuses they want for them but you simply don't go out night after night leaving babies especially when one of them has become traumatised by the experience.

And that sadly is the one true actual fact which we have to go on at the moment.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Nov 14 00:23
if people want to carry on like parrots repeating themselves cmat for their own self satisfaction reasons berating the parents for 9 millionth time then so be it. Though I think the sane ones amongst us can agree there is very little else to add now.
By:
akabula
When: 24 Nov 14 00:33
Well cheerio SH as I would imagine you don't want to be labelled a parrot by repeating that.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Nov 14 00:35
true but I am replying to nonsense whilst others are repeating itLaugh
By:
naydam
When: 24 Nov 14 01:13
Eeternal. "Gerry's odd behaviour"? What did (or didn't) he do that was odd?
By:
Ivor
When: 24 Nov 14 01:15
oh please... not again Sad
By:
akabula
When: 24 Nov 14 01:20
I'm beginning to see what SH is getting at Laugh
By:
paddletoe
When: 24 Nov 14 01:24
I would consider it odd behaviour for a doctor to use profanities in front of other peoples children when they are on their way to a holiday which Gerry himself says he is not there to enjoy himself. It shows a lack of self control around children at best.
By:
paddletoe
When: 24 Nov 14 01:29
Nice way for the children to start there holiday when Gerry replies to a question with a feck off in front of them all on the bus before they have even started their holiday. Who on here would use profanities in front of other peoples children. The fact that none of the other parents pulled him on his behaviour shows what an outfit this group were.
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Nov 14 04:56

Nov 23, 2014 -- 5:12PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Abduction. An accidental death cover up is too unlikely given the facts.


How likely is abduction then ? Not only no trace of one but how many cases can you point out where a stranger has taken a child from the place they were living ? 0 as far as i know .

By:
tobermory
When: 24 Nov 14 05:00

Nov 23, 2014 -- 10:33PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


They were corrections, not changes for the sake of change, you can't expect people to remember what at time would have felt insignificant and all whilst coming to terms with a missing child.akabula, I'm ordinary member of the pubic, let's not get paranoid with cryptic posts.


They were corrections once their initial story was found to be full of sh!t . Thye thought the portuguese plod would see an open window and assume the abductor had got in and out that way .It was only when the window was examined and found that it could not have been opened from outside that they retracted their claim that they had done their 'checks' by entering through the locked front door .You seriously think they had forgotten that they left the doors open ?

By:
Facts
When: 24 Nov 14 07:29
I would expect someone to know wether a window had been opened and wooden shutters forced up. Or not.
To make a statement that this had occurred, when in fact it had not, is more than a change or correction imo.
By:
bix
When: 24 Nov 14 08:24
With three small children inside I would suggest you would know exactly the state of windows and doors when you left the apartment and if this was a nightly occurence you would know the routine as you would have weighed up the consequencies and likelyhood of their getting out or someone getting in.
By:
Wesdag
When: 24 Nov 14 13:24
Steamship    23 Nov 14 22:15 
Can I just ask fellow forumites what you thought of the Crimewatch reconstruction that showed Madeline asking Kate on the morning of the disappearance "where mummy and Daddy were the night before" as she woke up crying.

I cannot understand why the police felt they needed to show that to viewers as it clearly leads you to think the McCann's did something or at least makes me think it was bad leaving your children but the fact that your eldest woke up crying for you the night before and she tells you this and you do the same thing 12 hours later. Why show British viewers that?


The only answer is to enhance the abduction theory.

Once again, there is zero evidence to suggest that such a conversation with the child took place.

It is designed to strengthen the abduction case as it is much better to be thought of as being feckless and selfish parents than anything worse.

It also worth noting that this supposed conversation came to light at the same time that one of their tapas  friends claims of seeing the abductor with the child was dismissed by plod.

This original "sighting", fortuitously by one their mates, gave rise to the abduction hysteria.

Until hard evidence is produced, this case is a disappearance and not an abduction.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Nov 14 17:35
maybe they stretched a few truths because they realised how it may have looked,a natural reaction, or maybe they just couldn't remember.
By:
akabula
When: 24 Nov 14 17:41
maybe they stretched a few truths because they realised how it may have looked,a natural reaction, or maybe they just couldn't remember

No maybes SH they lied, pure and simple. A horrible selfish couple.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Nov 14 17:50
scandanavian_haven   
24 Nov 14 17:35 
maybe they stretched a few truths


Laugh

Superintendent Nipper - Ron, did you kill Jack McVitie?   

Ronnie Kray - No, I like his digestives though.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Nov 14 19:17
Make your mind up scandinavian. One minute they are squeaky clean with nothing to be ashamed of and now they are telling lies and thus potentially obstructing the investigation.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Nov 14 19:47
I don't ever remember saying they are squeaky clean with nothing to be ashamed off.
When you change a statement, you are in your own mind making corrections, and at the same time, you don't change your evidence unless you are advised to by your representatives which they clearly must have been, when they made their initial statements, do you think after finding out they just lost a child they were thinking clearly? I think not.
Obstructing evidence -  maybe looking at the diabolical way in which the initial investigation was carried out and handling of the crime scene should attain more focus. Their cowboy operation botched it from the beginning.
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 Nov 14 19:59
i said on here at the time that i thought the whole crimewatch  show  pointed the finger at the macaans in a subtle way and the bloke used in the reconstruction of the irish sighting was an absolute dead ringer for gerry macaan,but others on here said it was old footage they,d seen before,it was the ist time i,d seen it
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Nov 14 20:03
You seem to be doing the same as they did. You've made a clear and unequivocal statement that they lied because they realised how it may look. Which at the very least seems to be evidence that they thought about a story, instead of thinking about what actually happened and then having thought about the story giving the most accurate story to help expedite any investigation they gave the one which would present them in the best light instead of pulling up trees in order to find their daughter.

I may be being uncharitable here but I don't feel particularly charitable to them because they left babies alone while they gave it the big one. Had they been a she and had that she been a single mum on benefits she would have been mullered for her negligence.

Havng said that I do also feel very sorry for them if she has been abducted because despite what happened no parent deserves to go through their pain.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Nov 14 20:18
Only they can answer truly on why, but like I said, they must have been advised to change their statements, we can all speculate and the reasons.

and had that she been a single mum on benefits she would have been mullered for her negligence

Are you actually for real? what exactly have you been reading the last few years, they've received nothing but vile bile for leaving their kids alone. This thread alone is a good reflection of it.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 24 Nov 14 20:46
That was the point I was making earlier. People refuse to be dictated to be by the news barons and think for themselves because of the internet. My point was that a single mum would have been buried in the papers and the papers have been very supportive of the McCann's. And yet they did somethign incredibly irresponsible. That isn't a suggestion that if Maddie was indeed abducated that they deserved it. Just that they were grossly irresponsible and have got a free pass with the press.
By:
naydam
When: 24 Nov 14 23:14
I'm not at all sure that the press's interest in this is to support the McCanns. That may have been their position initially because it sold papers.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 28 Nov 14 21:31
Woman from Birmingham (name not revealed for legal reasons)

Went to Oz to see her boyfriend.

Left her 14 year old son in charge of the other kids. 

He phoned his grandparents.

They phoned Social Services.

Kids not left alone.

Kids not in in any danger.

She did it once.

She got a suspended prison sentence

Strange world.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 28 Nov 14 21:35
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846183/Father-left-sick-toddler-daughter-car-outside-chemist-ran-buy-Calpol-charged-NEGLECT-spend-year-trying-clear-name.html
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 28 Nov 14 21:36
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2846183/Father-left-sick-toddler-daughter-car-outside-chemist-ran-buy-Calpol-charged-NEGLECT-spend-year-trying-clear-name.html
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 28 Nov 14 21:52
why posts that on here cmat, any excuse to resurrect this threadSad
By:
call me a taxi
When: 28 Nov 14 21:55
I don't need an excuse to bring a thread back.
By:
akabula
When: 28 Nov 14 21:59
scandanavian_haven
why posts that on here cmat, any excuse to resurrect this thread


Surely it's relevant to this thread.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 28 Nov 14 22:13
You need to move on with your life cmat imo
By:
Wesdag
When: 28 Nov 14 22:34
If only poor Madeleine could do the same.
By:
akabula
When: 28 Nov 14 22:37
People will possibly get off the mccanns backs when they admit, without excuses, that they failed Maddie miserably as parents.
By:
naydam
When: 28 Nov 14 22:47
Admit to whom?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 28 Nov 14 22:56
to defend a prosecution for starters.
By:
akabula
When: 28 Nov 14 22:58
naydam
Admit to whom?


Hazard a guess.
By:
Wesdag
When: 28 Nov 14 23:01
naydam Crazy
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 28 Nov 14 23:13
This is getting incredibly sad
By:
ebulGery
When: 29 Nov 14 01:00
akabula  • November 28, 2014 10:37 PM GMT 


People will possibly get off the mccanns backs when they admit, without excuses, that they failed Maddie miserably as parents.


it would help, to the world
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