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By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 02 Oct 14 22:27
What's your idea to stop the abuse of young children then ham?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Oct 14 22:31
Kelly i do agree the word is overused in misuse. However there was the odd paedophile being cornered in the prog.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 02 Oct 14 22:34
It`s always happened Money Tree, vulnerable humans will always be targeted by a small minority.

It shouldn`t be in the human psyche but for some it is. Science will probably be able to detect the part of the brain for sexual attraction and people `treated`...but as we know science can also misdiagnose.
By:
naydam
When: 02 Oct 14 22:38
Well, this 'Hunter' can say what he likes...but he has not caught anybody doing anything even vaguely wrong. Apparently the site is only open to over 18s. Therefore anybody posting on the site is over 18. As for some of the women claiming to be 13, well that is probably because all women lie about their age. The victims of his entrapment were [probably expecting to meet a 23yo who liked to dress as a schoolie. This is obvious because one of them took booze and cigs with him, obviously gifts for an older person. Had he been going to meet a kid, he would have taken pop and a 'my little pony'. Innit?
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 02 Oct 14 22:42
That's right cause went one was asked about having sex he said she could of had it.

Im happy to accept arguments from both sides as I'm sure most are the problem is people who think he is wrong have no answers to the correct way to stop these predators.
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 02 Oct 14 22:43
Money Tree, let the police deal with it. Not some convicted, uneducated chav bully. Putting videos online in particular is deplorable.
By:
TheChaser
When: 02 Oct 14 22:47
the police dealt with one of them 3 times he was set to court , now serving 3 years

so after 2 warnings they still trapped him a 3rd time
By:
charwell.
When: 02 Oct 14 22:48
Problem is Hamsterdam the police aren't dealing with it.

I have a real distain for vigilantes generally but as the ex police officer said the problem is big and they are underfunded.

The images grown men sent to people they believe to be a child were truly sickening. As a parent it is scary knowing their are so many predators out there trying to snare young and vulnerable children. Whilst his actions are small beer in the greater scheme of things the fact of the matter is it will save many children from abuse as a lot of paedos will see things like this and it will scare a lot into facing potential consequences before acting on their desires.
By:
TheChaser
When: 02 Oct 14 22:49
the police wouldnt have sent hi to court 3 times for nothing

its obvious the police in hunters area are not too bothered with what he does , but the higher up coppers dont want this in the public eye as it makes them look bad
By:
Kelly Brook
When: 02 Oct 14 22:49
Interestingly you should say that naydam as the one guy who didn't admit his guilt used that exact defence ... Its an 18+ website and users must agree to those terms. He was the only one the CPS decided not to pursue. If the others had used a bit of common (nonce)sense there would have been absolutely no chance of a prosecution.
By:
The Leopard
When: 02 Oct 14 22:53
Ron Ball in Guardian :

Channel 4’s decision to air The Paedophile Hunter, a documentary about a vigilante who tries to entrap and humiliate paedophiles, has been the centre of debate this week. It raises many important questions about the relationship between the public and law, while providing a chilling insight into the dark world of paedophilia.

It also did an excellent job of demonstrating why the character at the centre of the documentary, Stinson Hunter, should desist from his activities.

A large amount of police time is dedicated to obtaining prosecutions for paedophiles: since 2012 almost 100 people have been charged for sexual offences against under-18s in Warwickshire alone. However superficially attractive, Hunter’s methods risk jeopardising a lot of that work.

One of the extremely misleading impressions created by the programme is that the police are not addressing these issues. Following the broadcast, many people on social media have questioned the effectiveness of the police in investigating the online exploitation of children.

However, that is simply not the case. Since January 2012, 164 people have been prosecuted for committing 404 sexual offences against people under 18. In the past 12 months the force has launched 33 separate investigations into online exploitation, including working with the National Crime Agency on the high-profile national investigation Operation Notarise.

Following the Oxford revelations about child sexual exploitation in 2013, I ordered a review of all of the policies within Warwickshire and made clear that I favoured the setting up of a multi-agency safeguarding hub (Mash), where all the relevant agencies sit together and share intelligence and information about vulnerable children. Together with our partners in West Mercia, we are committing in excess of £2.5m to protecting vulnerable people, and child protection will be a major beneficiary of that investment.

Warwickshire police have met Hunter on a number of occasions and tried to find a way to work with him. If he was genuinely concerned about public good, he would hand over his evidence to the police, rather than exposing people online, so that officers with the right training can take it forward. By making their identities public he makes it difficult for the case to go to a fair trial, and so his work cannot always lead to a conviction.

The programme finished with a list of the offenders trapped and the sentences they received. This could have all been achieved without the ritual humiliation on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube which Hunter seems to revel in. The fact that the family members of the offender, including children, can also be seriously damaged by such public humiliation is clearly of no concern to him. It simply serves to achieve a greater public profile for him.

Is this how we want justice administered in this country? For obvious and perfectly justifiable reasons paedophiles and paedophilia generate huge anger, but that must not be allowed to cloud judgment and produce outcomes that are completely unacceptable. To get sufficient evidence to prosecute paedophiles – and particularly the hugely dangerous paedophile rings – takes thousands of hours of dedicated covert police work, and Hunter could jeopardise one of those operations. He has no idea of what he might be stumbling into, and as with so much of his work, he blasts on oblivious to any damage he might be doing elsewhere.

Hunter has a choice: he can present evidence to the proper authorities to deal with judiciously, or he can continue to try to whip up the mob.

Extreme emotions and justice make very poor bed fellows. What is apparent from the programme was that the humiliation and rabble-rousing are essential drivers for Hunter, but neither has a place in the pursuit of justice.

There is no doubt that paedophilia and child sexual exploitation has to be confronted, but it must not be confronted this way.
By:
naydam
When: 02 Oct 14 22:53
I hope you don't think that I am speaking from experience!  ShockedShockedBlush
By:
TheChaser
When: 02 Oct 14 23:01
do we start to hide murderers from the public eye incase they get humiliated poor soles

i agree it could hurt the family but there is no alternative really is there? the guy got 12 month suspended sentence now people in his area know to avoid him or let him babysit their kids
By:
TheChaser
When: 02 Oct 14 23:02
all the people moaning would start moaning even more if they were living next door to one of these sickos and where not told
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 02 Oct 14 23:08
The problem with the police way of stopping this is in many cases a crime is committed and a child's life thrown into turmoil for the sexual gratification of a twisted man.

At least this way that part is avoided. Is he right to do it? I'm not judging that. Does his work have results? I think that's a huge yes.

The hope is predators see that and think twice.
By:
naydam
When: 02 Oct 14 23:21
What's happened to all those of you who say things like 'It doesn't hurt them' or 'they must have wanted it' or 'if they don't report it in a week, that should be it'.??
Am I to assume that if any underage sex had taken place with these (theoretical) children, you would all have poo-poohed their reporting it to the police in 20yrs time when they realised that their 'internet friend' was actually a serial sex offender and STILL molesting 13yr-olds?

Surely, you would all be saying that it's so unfair, and hinting at compensation claims? Wouldn't you?
'Cos you bloody well do NOW!
By:
Kelly Brook
When: 02 Oct 14 23:56
The problem is attraction has absolutely nothing to do with morality. Sexually mature men have always and will always find sexually mature girls attractive (irrespective of age). That is what nature intended and none of us can fight nature.

Of course most normal men choose not to dwell upon or act on that attraction and quite rightly but calling those who do sickos and perverts is a little bit fatuous imo .
By:
elise
When: 03 Oct 14 00:04
i agree, instead of calling them names a litre of petrol and a match would be much more effective
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 00:11
ill light the match
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 03 Oct 14 00:16
I agree with Elise. The guy who visited the 11 year old would be the first guy on the fire.
By:
charwell.
When: 03 Oct 14 00:16
No it isn't. I find your attitude more than a bit creepy and disturbing to be honest.
By:
charwell.
When: 03 Oct 14 00:17
to Kelly brook
By:
timbuctooth
When: 03 Oct 14 00:22
Seems to be a disturbingly high number of paedo-sympathisers on here. New lows of weaselness being reached, even for Chit Chat. I`m embarrassed for them, and glad my children don`t live near them.
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 00:30
you hope they dont live near them
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 03 Oct 14 00:31
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Oh dear. This is the retard you guys are supporting! May god have mercy on your minimum wages soles.
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 03 Oct 14 00:34
I have to say I have a real lol at Hams posts.
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 00:35
how much has he raised now to go on holiday?

i seen it at 14k
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 00:36
hamster wants to put an end to the hunter for some reason , i cant think of what reason
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 03 Oct 14 00:40
14k is rather disappointing given the hype. Gives me hope.

He's a typical "I know where you live" bully. Research a little deeper into his antics and he's not the working class hero the morons are led to believe.
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 00:43
everyone knows hes a bit of a t0sser , him and his mate with FBI shades look cool though
By:
naydam
When: 03 Oct 14 00:45
I don't think he wants to put an end to him. It would help if the guy would operate in a less gung-ho manner.
After all, none of these people did anything whatsoever to a youngster. That is a fact.

I speak, of course,, about the material shown on the documentary.
By:
charwell.
When: 03 Oct 14 01:08
Well they did actually:

- attempted to groom people under the age of consen
-  sent indecent images to what they believed to be a minor
-  and travelled to their premises armed with something for the kids to hang their Hello Kitty towels on!
By:
naydam
When: 03 Oct 14 01:13
Why would he believe the person was a minor? The site was (I believe) restricted to people over 18 years of age.
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 03 Oct 14 01:13
But they all believed they we're send the messages and filthy pictures to children did they not?
By:
Money Tree cost me thousands!!
When: 03 Oct 14 01:14
So their excuse is it's an adult site even though they were informed of the child's age?
By:
naydam
When: 03 Oct 14 01:20
Women always lie about their age. It would rather spoil the 'role play' if the woman said 'actually, I'm 32'.
Lots of women like dressing up as schoolies, they've been doing it for years.
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 01:25
ok they are all innocent , go let roger wilson look after your kids one night
By:
TheChaser
When: 03 Oct 14 01:26
why did he run away and now answer the questions , if it was all role play then surely he would just say so and laugh at the hunter
By:
charwell.
When: 03 Oct 14 01:28
naydam, either you haven't seen the programme or.......
By:
thegiggilo
When: 03 Oct 14 01:38
One of the strangest programmes I've ever seen I thought it was a p1sstake docu soap when I first started watching itShockedthey obviously caught a few paedos out but what about the bloke who committed suicide.I find it hard to believe he was a paedophile,one thing these perverts have in common is they feel no pity or shame as displayed by the ones caught out.The bloke who committed suicide didn't have the profile of one of these,he also had a wife and baby that left a bit of a bad taste watching the programme...
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