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Looks more and more likely that his legacy will be the break up of the country he was PM for.
He agreed to give Scotland a YES/NO referendum only.
If it was YES/NO/More devolved powers, more than likely that either No, or at worst for him more devolved powers would have won as vote would be split.
Given now that in the event of a No vote he has already agreed to give Scottish parliament more powers, this must go down as one of the biggest bloopers ever by a British PM ever regardless of the result of the referendum. (And that takes some doing)
He agreed to give Scotland a YES/NO referendum only.
If it was YES/NO/More devolved powers, more than likely that either No, or at worst for him more devolved powers would have won as vote would be split.
Given now that in the event of a No vote he has already agreed to give Scottish parliament more powers, this must go down as one of the biggest bloopers ever by a British PM ever regardless of the result of the referendum. (And that takes some doing)
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more damaging to the poor , sick and disabled than Thatcher ever was..and lib dems can be put in the same category
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gordon brown nap
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Gordon Brown did not start any wars and did not break up the UK. The global economic meltdown was badly timed from his point of view.
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Scottish independence
Bedroom Tax Big society Tax cuts for the rich Forced into EU referendum promise Friendless in Europe Defeated in commons on Syria vote The rise and rise of UKIP  Diminishing countryside with excess building. Cuts to the armed forces Energy price rises Fewer Doctors, police, teachers Expenses scandal Pay freezes Zero hours contracts FOOD BANKS And a pay rise for MP's God bless the self confessed and proud 'Child of Thatcher'. |
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Gordon Brown was unelected so does that really count?
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he has no sound political judgment whatsoever. god knows what his advisors keep telling him
lucky that labour have such a hapless leader too |
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Tony Blair or Gordon Brown, take your pick.
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Who sold our gold reserves at the bottom of the market?
Who gave hundreds of billions to bankers, no strings attached? Who increased the 10p tax rate to 20p penalising the poorest workers? Who left us on the same slippery slope as Greece with "No money left"? Mr "Prudence" Brown, that's who. |
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Who is on the verge of losing an entire country - Cameron
And Gold? what is this 1754? |
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Yes
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Gold is an asset which can be sold for a lot more today than when Gordon sold it. The Euros he bought with it are worth little more today than they were back then.
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Cameron has to resign if he misplaces a whole country shirley
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Cameron potentially losing a lot more Black gold
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Ramruma • September 7, 2014 2:56 PM BST
Gordon Brown did not start any wars and did not break up the UK. The global economic meltdown was badly timed from his point of view. up to his neck in Iraq |
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The black gold belongs to whoever makes the investment to extract it. Sovereign governments collect licence fees and royalties which are a small percentage of the market value.
Should there be a Yes vote in the referendum then the UK treasury will lose the royalties and the Scottish government will gain them. If, as will probably happen, they find that this income is insufficient to cover their election promises they can consider increasing the royalty rates. This will work in the short term but when it comes to investing in new offshore fields the oil companies might then decide that it's no longer a worthwhile investment. What would Scotland then do with "its" oil. |
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I wouldn`t say he`s the worst, but he would definitely make the top 2 behind Thatcher
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What would Scotland then do with "its" oil.
No, what will England do without "our" oil. Why do you think the elite who run the country want us to stay? They start wars for oil you know, so don`t be surprised if MI5 and the CIA rig the vote. |
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What has Cameron achieved ?
Another US lackey. Another public schoolboy making schoolboy errors, he is no leader of men. History will quite simply remember him as a failure. |
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England will continue to buy oil and gas from the multinational oil companies as always. Will Alex Salmond have a big red tap in his office with which to blackmail the "enemy" south of the border?
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England is not our enemy and the only blackmail going on at the moment is all the scaremongering in the media regards Scottish Independence, i.e. job losses, currency, bankruptcy, etc. Sad thing is that a lot of the "thickos" up here actually believe what they read in the papers. We have a right to self determination and a right to shape the future the best we can for future generations.
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I agree with you The Mighty Mac. As it's got this far it will be an almighty anti-climax if the No vote prevails.
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If you look at the state of the middle east and the 100,000s dead and the instability that may last for many more decades, it's got to be Blair. Also any break up of the union was of course set in motion by Blair trying to engineer a permanent Labour kingdom in Scotland and it going off in his face, Cameron is dealing with the consquences.
To try and compare the "bedroom tax" to the misery Blair has helped unleash on the world shows a bit of a lack of perspective. Nobody outside the UK give a sh*t about it, try bleating about it to a yazidi who has lost their entire family. The strange thing is I don't think Blair is a genuinely nasty politician and meant well in a way, unlike real pieces of work like Griffin or Salmond. |
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I think Cameron is our worst PM ever
allowing the UK to break up is appalling I hope is does not happen, but will be no thanks to Cameron |
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What you have to realise about Tony Blair is that he was a Tory who infiltrated the Labour party.
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Could well be scandanavian
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He was shallow Blair, as is Cameron. Neither possess any great morality either
But do any politicians nowadays? Politicians seem to lack any experience of real life nowadays. Blair invaded Iraq because he was flattered by the USA, Bush had lost his nerve after 9/11, he panicked. But Blair should have seen it was wrong. |
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Party politics to one side, Cameron will have made a miscalculation of historic proportions if 'yes' win next week. He'll be a goner.
Ironically, it will positively transform his party's electoral fortunes. |
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miscalculation of historic proportions
yes I agree, I don't understand his motive, Scotland were not really pushing hard for that independence It was not like Crimea, where there was a massive push to join Russia. |
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No matter what happens - Tony Blair was - and always will be a total idiot and 'THE' worst Prime Minister ever imo. Cameron is streaks ahead in my estimation as country/world leader. I very much doubt Scotland will have too much of an affect. (Been brewing for a while hasn't it?). I personally could live without Scotland and it's people.
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ooooohh
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It would have a bigger effect on British politics than anything since the Second World War. He'd have been outflanked by Salmond and would have lost a vote he should have won easily just like the 2010 general election.
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I would be more than happy for David Cameron to remain as Prime Minister of this Country (with or without Scotland) for the foreseeable future. Very much doubt that this will happen owing to the obvious 'lack' of intelligence of the majority of the British population.
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I think quite a few know the difference between it's and its though
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Best, fastest growing economy in Europe? (2nd only to Germany)
Why would Scotland gaining independence mean the break-up of Great Britain? The Welsh left ages ago. |
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Whatever PM is in at that time is always the worst ever.
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'I would be more than happy for David Cameron to remain as Prime Minister of this Country (with or without Scotland) for the foreseeable future. Very much doubt that this will happen owing to the obvious 'lack' of intelligence of the majority of the British population. '
With reference to themightymac. |
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some one reporting things they dont like
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Hamsterdam • September 8, 2014 8:52 PM BST
Best, fastest growing economy in Europe? (2nd only to Germany) utter bullsh1t in my opinion.....we are recovered when we return to 2008 prosperity and we do not have over 2 million unemployed Another point we are making ourselves a smaller country, it becomes even more important to control immigration Are we making ourselves a little England in which case I assume both Wales and N.Ireland will become independent at some stage |
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You can keep him and your "I`m Alright Jack" society which you personally perpetrate so accurately. After next week, Scotland will be a Tory free zone. It`s the decent, honest, hard working people of England I worry about being left at the mercy of the wolves. Nothing worse than a working class snob.
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