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Pele
Mohammed Ali
A P MCoy
Steve Redgrave
Al Oerter
....any others ?
Mohammed Ali
A P MCoy
Steve Redgrave
Al Oerter
....any others ?
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Surely Usain Bolt has to be up there certainly. The best and most entertaining athlete I have ever seen
Babe Ruth
Peyton Manning
David Fairclough
Lester Piggott
Lev Yashin
Peyton Manning
David Fairclough
Lester Piggott
Lev Yashin
Tiger woods a few years ago...going into majors as odds on fav...won't ever be seen again
If by game changers you mean people who literally changed their respective games, then probably none of the above.
Martin Pipe
Shane Warne
Johan Cruyff
Martin Pipe
Shane Warne
Johan Cruyff
Eddie "the Eagle" Edwards. Laughed in the face of fear.
Jean-Marc Bosman ensured the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
My three favourite sports are horse racing, rugby and cricket in that order.
Lester Piggott
Sean Fitzpatrick
Shane Warne
Lester Piggott
Sean Fitzpatrick
Shane Warne
cricket is much the same post Shane Warne as pre Shane Warne.
no game changer imo
no game changer imo
Did the Op intend this to be a a greatest athlete of all time thread. This is not my impression. Kindly clarify
Cliff Richard
Tennis has never been the same since he sang at Wimbers.
Tennis has never been the same since he sang at Wimbers.
Hard to say without some kind of definition.
Dick Fosbury would have to be in any list I'd guess. May not seem like such a big deal now but at the time and for many years afterwards Bob Beamon's frontal still of the long jump in the 1968 olympics was, maybe alongside Ali's wide eyed lunging post Liston, one of the iconic sporting images of the 20th century. The Black Power Salute (of 1968 again). Bannister collapsing over the line in 1954. Jesse Owens interspersed with pictures of Hitler. The Italian chap in the 1908 marathon up and down like a fiddlers elbow and then eventually carried over the line and disqualified. The Iron woman in Hawaii who having swum two and a half miles, cycled 112 miles and ran a marathon collapsed about 50 metres from the line and was passed and then proceeded to crawl her way to and over the winning line. That ball from Warne to Gatting and Gatting's reaction. That spell from Holding to Close where every ball seemed millimetres away from taking his head off. Bustino versus Grundy. Dancing Brave in The Arc. Crisp. Red Rum's third national. Coe after he retained his 1500 metres crown after being written off by the British press. The dirtiest race in history (Seoul 1988). Buster Douglas not just beating but battering Tyson. Nicklaus and Watson at Turnbury was it? Tiger Woods smashing up the Masters field at 20. Buck Shelford having his testicle pulled off by a French forward and playing on.
Not all game changers but all indelible images.
Dick Fosbury would have to be in any list I'd guess. May not seem like such a big deal now but at the time and for many years afterwards Bob Beamon's frontal still of the long jump in the 1968 olympics was, maybe alongside Ali's wide eyed lunging post Liston, one of the iconic sporting images of the 20th century. The Black Power Salute (of 1968 again). Bannister collapsing over the line in 1954. Jesse Owens interspersed with pictures of Hitler. The Italian chap in the 1908 marathon up and down like a fiddlers elbow and then eventually carried over the line and disqualified. The Iron woman in Hawaii who having swum two and a half miles, cycled 112 miles and ran a marathon collapsed about 50 metres from the line and was passed and then proceeded to crawl her way to and over the winning line. That ball from Warne to Gatting and Gatting's reaction. That spell from Holding to Close where every ball seemed millimetres away from taking his head off. Bustino versus Grundy. Dancing Brave in The Arc. Crisp. Red Rum's third national. Coe after he retained his 1500 metres crown after being written off by the British press. The dirtiest race in history (Seoul 1988). Buster Douglas not just beating but battering Tyson. Nicklaus and Watson at Turnbury was it? Tiger Woods smashing up the Masters field at 20. Buck Shelford having his testicle pulled off by a French forward and playing on.
Not all game changers but all indelible images.
cricket is much the same post Shane Warne as pre Shane Warne.
No it isn't because as well as increasing the spin bowler's repertoire, Warne turned the spinner into a main strike bowler rather than a defensive bowler brought on to give the fast bowlers a rest.
No it isn't because as well as increasing the spin bowler's repertoire, Warne turned the spinner into a main strike bowler rather than a defensive bowler brought on to give the fast bowlers a rest.
Definitely Martin Pipe. Bradman would be another if it weren't restricted to the last 60 years. You could make an argument for Usain Bolt, as tall lanky sprinters were never considered until he came along.
graham taylor ?
basically went route 1 with Watford, Wimbledon copied it and a decade later passing back to the keeper was banned
basically went route 1 with Watford, Wimbledon copied it and a decade later passing back to the keeper was banned
game changer = an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current way of doing or thinking about something.
so .... we are talking about people who changed their games ?
so .... we are talking about people who changed their games ?
performers rather than administrators like that numpty swiss egit in charge of fifa... eh ?
If anyone wonders what it was exactly that Martin Pipe did, he developed interval training for racehorses.
He was so successful in this that other trainers had no choice but to follow.
He was so successful in this that other trainers had no choice but to follow.
Rugby changed a great deal for the better but due not to a player but to the move from a shamateur, winter game to a professional, summer game. So that doesn't count.
bosman was a reasonable shout , suddenly agents arrived
Jack Wa*ker showed the way to win the PL title. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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game changer = an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current way of doing or thinking about something.
Then how does Pele, Ali, Redgrave, McCoy fit into that? I'm not saying that they don't, but I'd like to hear your reasoning for how they do.
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game changer = an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current way of doing or thinking about something.
Then how does Pele, Ali, Redgrave, McCoy fit into that? I'm not saying that they don't, but I'd like to hear your reasoning for how they do.
Arsene Wenger changed players' attitude towards themselves. He had them looking after themselves like never before in terms of diet and training.
Undoubtedly Jimmy Hill and his cohorts in abolishing the retain and transfer system and the maximum wage.
Undoubtedly Jimmy Hill and his cohorts in abolishing the retain and transfer system and the maximum wage.
Perhaps controversial but using the said criteria neither Pipe nor Wenger were true game changers in the respect that Pipe borrowed existing technology from another sport and Wenger insisted on applying continental patterns within the English game. But when you look at it like that the list shrinks somewhat. Dick Fosbury and whoever started rotating in the shot putt rather than just springing across and lobbing it.
Mike Tyson
Luis Suarez
Never seen anybody bite their opponent before, but it's a tad slow catching on.
Luis Suarez
Never seen anybody bite their opponent before, but it's a tad slow catching on.
Someone'll put me right here, but didn't F1 alter the points scoring and introduced various new laws in order to stop Schumacher when he was so dominant?
pele = 16 year old 1958 world cup, icon , "beautiful game", Brazilian dominance for 12 years , ambassador .... first of his kind
ali = similar, raised popularity and status of boxing in black culture , used the media to promote himself and the sport for the first time
redgrave = 4 golds over 12 years, raised status of sport, gentleman, media friendly, increased awareness of fitness levels, first for rowing
McCoy = total dedication reaping rewards , falling off and getting back up , pin cushion body , patience & understanding of horses
ali = similar, raised popularity and status of boxing in black culture , used the media to promote himself and the sport for the first time
redgrave = 4 golds over 12 years, raised status of sport, gentleman, media friendly, increased awareness of fitness levels, first for rowing
McCoy = total dedication reaping rewards , falling off and getting back up , pin cushion body , patience & understanding of horses
Eeternaloptimist 06 Aug 14 01:14
Perhaps controversial but using the said criteria neither Pipe nor Wenger were true game changers in the respect that Pipe borrowed existing technology from another sport and Wenger insisted on applying continental patterns within the English game. But when you look at it like that the list shrinks somewhat. Dick Fosbury and whoever started rotating in the shot putt rather than just springing across and lobbing it.
Pipe didn't just borrow 'existing technology from another sport', he combined a number of new and existing techniques that have changed the way horses in Britain are trained and subsequently became the norm; such as being the first to buy flat bred horses to run over jumps, run them from the front, scope them, import from France and no doubt countless other methods.
He was a massive game changer in this country and in his sport. How often do you see a hurdler go 50 lengths clear and just stay there nowadays?
Perhaps controversial but using the said criteria neither Pipe nor Wenger were true game changers in the respect that Pipe borrowed existing technology from another sport and Wenger insisted on applying continental patterns within the English game. But when you look at it like that the list shrinks somewhat. Dick Fosbury and whoever started rotating in the shot putt rather than just springing across and lobbing it.
Pipe didn't just borrow 'existing technology from another sport', he combined a number of new and existing techniques that have changed the way horses in Britain are trained and subsequently became the norm; such as being the first to buy flat bred horses to run over jumps, run them from the front, scope them, import from France and no doubt countless other methods.
He was a massive game changer in this country and in his sport. How often do you see a hurdler go 50 lengths clear and just stay there nowadays?
Pixie......'How often do you see a hurdler go 50 lengths clear and just stay there nowadays?'
Every time I've fekkin layed one!
Every time I've fekkin layed one!
don revie
on pitch warm up for players before game, helping keep them out of bookies, pubs
michael dickinson ...changed ways horses are trained
fosbury ...great shout
liverpool fc......got back pass to goalie banned
on pitch warm up for players before game, helping keep them out of bookies, pubs
michael dickinson ...changed ways horses are trained
fosbury ...great shout
liverpool fc......got back pass to goalie banned
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