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irishone
03 Aug 14 21:42
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Pele
Mohammed Ali
A P MCoy
Steve Redgrave
Al Oerter

....any others ?

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By:
topshot
When: 03 Aug 14 21:46
Surely Usain Bolt has to be up there certainly. The best and most entertaining athlete I have ever seen
By:
themightymac
When: 03 Aug 14 21:46
Babe Ruth
Peyton Manning
David Fairclough
Lester Piggott
Lev Yashin
By:
topshot
When: 03 Aug 14 21:51
Tiger woods  a few years ago...going into majors as odds on fav...won't ever be seen again
By:
Ramruma
When: 03 Aug 14 22:31
If by game changers you mean people who literally changed their respective games, then probably none of the above.

Martin Pipe
Shane Warne
Johan Cruyff
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 03 Aug 14 22:34
Eddie "the Eagle" Edwards. Laughed in the face of fear.
By:
Irish_Celtic
When: 03 Aug 14 22:36
Kilkenny
By:
Big_Issue
When: 03 Aug 14 22:36
Phil Taylor
By:
Irish_Celtic
When: 03 Aug 14 22:41
Lance Armstrong ? Crazy

The All blacks ?
By:
terry mccann
When: 03 Aug 14 22:44
arnie palmer
By:
Barry Conway
When: 03 Aug 14 22:45
Dick Fosbury. Maybe Graeme Obree.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 03 Aug 14 23:11
Jean-Marc Bosman ensured the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 03 Aug 14 23:23
My three favourite sports are horse racing, rugby and cricket in that order.

Lester Piggott
Sean Fitzpatrick
Shane Warne
By:
cruso
When: 03 Aug 14 23:37
Alex Ferguson
By:
irishone
When: 03 Aug 14 23:55
fosbury .... g s
Nicklaus ?
By:
curious-cat
When: 03 Aug 14 23:58
cricket is much the same post Shane Warne as pre Shane Warne.

no game changer imo
By:
MR. 69
When: 04 Aug 14 00:37
Did the Op intend this to be a a greatest athlete of all time thread. This is not my impression. Kindly clarify
By:
akabula
When: 04 Aug 14 02:07
Roger Bannister
By:
akabula
When: 04 Aug 14 02:09
Cliff Richard
Tennis has never been the same since he sang at Wimbers.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 04 Aug 14 02:12
Alex ''hurricane'' Higgins..
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 04 Aug 14 02:31
Hard to say without some kind of definition.

Dick Fosbury would have to be in any list I'd guess. May not seem like such a big deal now but at the time and for many years afterwards Bob Beamon's frontal still of the long jump in the 1968 olympics was, maybe alongside Ali's wide eyed lunging post Liston, one of the iconic sporting images of the 20th century. The Black Power Salute (of 1968 again). Bannister collapsing over the line in 1954. Jesse Owens interspersed with pictures of Hitler. The Italian chap in the 1908 marathon up and down like a fiddlers elbow and then eventually carried over the line and disqualified. The Iron woman in Hawaii who having swum two and a half miles, cycled 112 miles and ran a marathon collapsed about 50 metres from the line and was passed and then proceeded to crawl her way to and over the winning line. That ball from Warne to Gatting and Gatting's reaction. That spell from Holding to Close where every ball seemed millimetres away from taking his head off. Bustino versus Grundy. Dancing Brave in The Arc. Crisp. Red Rum's third national. Coe after he retained his 1500 metres crown after being written off by the British press. The dirtiest race in history (Seoul 1988). Buster Douglas not just beating but battering Tyson. Nicklaus and Watson at Turnbury was it? Tiger Woods smashing up the Masters field at 20. Buck Shelford having his testicle pulled off by a French forward and playing on. Laugh

Not all game changers but all indelible images.
By:
Ramruma
When: 04 Aug 14 06:03
cricket is much the same post Shane Warne as pre Shane Warne.

No it isn't because as well as increasing the spin bowler's repertoire, Warne turned the spinner into a main strike bowler rather than a defensive bowler brought on to give the fast bowlers a rest.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 04 Aug 14 19:46
Martin Pipe.
By:
pixie
When: 04 Aug 14 20:00
Definitely Martin Pipe. Bradman would be another if it weren't restricted to the last 60 years. You could make an argument for Usain Bolt, as tall lanky sprinters were never considered until he came along.
By:
irishone
When: 04 Aug 14 20:16
graham taylor ?

basically went route 1 with Watford, Wimbledon copied it and a decade later passing back to the keeper was banned
By:
irishone
When: 04 Aug 14 20:18
game changer = an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current way of doing or thinking about something.

so .... we are talking about people who changed their games ?
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 04 Aug 14 20:19
Yes. Martin Pipe.
By:
irishone
When: 04 Aug 14 20:19
martin pipe agree
By:
irishone
When: 04 Aug 14 20:21
performers rather than administrators like that numpty swiss egit in charge of fifa... eh ?
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 04 Aug 14 20:23
If anyone wonders what it was exactly that Martin Pipe did, he developed interval training for racehorses.

He was so successful in this that other trainers had no choice but to follow.
By:
Ramruma
When: 04 Aug 14 20:27
Rugby changed a great deal for the better but due not to a player but to the move from a shamateur, winter game to a professional, summer game. So that doesn't count.
By:
irishone
When: 06 Aug 14 00:27
bosman was a reasonable shout , suddenly agents arrived
By:
utc
When: 06 Aug 14 00:38
Jack Wa*ker showed the way to win the PL title. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
By:
Cobblaz
When: 06 Aug 14 00:55
irishone
04 Aug 14 20:18
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game changer = an event, idea, or procedure that effects a significant shift in the current way of doing or thinking about something.


Then how does Pele, Ali, Redgrave, McCoy fit into that? I'm not saying that they don't, but I'd like to hear your reasoning for how they do.
By:
utc
When: 06 Aug 14 01:01
Arsene Wenger changed players' attitude towards themselves.  He had them looking after themselves like never before in terms of diet and training.

Undoubtedly Jimmy Hill and his cohorts in abolishing the retain and transfer system and the maximum wage.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 06 Aug 14 01:14
Perhaps controversial but using the said criteria neither Pipe nor Wenger were true game changers in the respect that Pipe borrowed existing technology from another sport and Wenger insisted on applying continental patterns within the English game. But when you look at it like that the list shrinks somewhat. Dick Fosbury and whoever started rotating in the shot putt rather than just springing across and lobbing it.
By:
utc
When: 06 Aug 14 01:20
Wenger certainly a game changer for the English game.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 06 Aug 14 01:32
Mike Tyson
Luis Suarez

Never seen anybody bite their opponent before, but it's a tad slow catching on.
By:
utc
When: 06 Aug 14 01:38
Someone'll put me right here, but didn't F1 alter the points scoring and introduced various new laws in order to stop Schumacher when he  was so dominant?
By:
irishone
When: 06 Aug 14 08:28
pele = 16 year old 1958 world cup, icon , "beautiful game", Brazilian dominance for 12 years , ambassador .... first of his kind
ali = similar, raised popularity and status of boxing in black culture , used the media to promote himself and the sport for the first time
redgrave = 4 golds over 12 years, raised status of sport, gentleman, media friendly, increased awareness of fitness levels, first for rowing
McCoy = total dedication reaping rewards , falling off and getting back up , pin cushion body , patience & understanding of horses
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