Any nutritionist in the house? - WHEAT

huzzah for coeliacs!

no, but i do know wheat raise blood sugar a lot. as does obviously anything made frome wheat, like pasta and bread. as with a lot of these things, people forget that they arent meant to be eaten in such large processed quantities.

fruit juice is one of the biggest causes of diabetes and high blood glucose, i have type 1 diabetes (the insulin one, not the being a lard arse one) and i avoid it like the plague except a very small amount of pom wonderful every day to give me a few vitamins. a litre of tropicana contains the same sugar (its not added, its in the fruit and would still be in there if you freshly squeezed oranges yourself) as 3 mars bars. so 330ml is the same as 1 mars bar. drink a lot of it and your body will soon stop being able to break down the sugar and thats when you get type 2 diabetes. but cos it comes from fruit people think it must be healthy. in one glass you can get the juice from maybe 10 oranges, even though thats advertised as a selling point thats bad not good. nature didnt intend us to eat 10 oranges in 2 minutes, nobody would sit down and eat 10 oranges yet they think its fine to drink 10 oranges. plus, most of the nutrients in fruit are lost in juice anyway, just is most just the natural sugar inside the fruit and water. may as well just drink a can of pop.

Reading double page spreads has resulted in a 50% increase in depression over the last five years.
Thought this was amusing.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/britons-impressed-by-big-percentages-2014072989011

I think we have been brainwashed into thinking having wheat cereal for breakfast is a good start to the day. I am convinced the bulging waistlines are somewhat connected to wheat.

Anyone else notice how over advertised wheat foods are? Pay close attention to TV adverts, the mass array of wheat products in supermarkets with their ever so enticing packaging to lure in the kids.

It`s a billion pound industry, but wheat is making us fat. Fat belly?Wheat belly....or man boobs?

Man Boobs
The chronic spikes in blood sugar and insulin spur the growth of dangerous visceral fat, an accumulation that leads to fat encasing your liver, kidneys, pancreas, small intestines, and, on the outside, your belly. This unique abdominal fat manufactures excess estrogen in both men and women. That increases the risk of breast cancer in women and could lead to dreaded "man boobs" in men. Use it as a signal that you need to cut wheat. "I'd go as far as saying that overly enthusiastic wheat consumption is the main cause of the obesity and diabetes crisis in the United States," Dr. Davis writes in Wheat Belly.

You're on the right track I think angel, it's genetically modified wheat that is created to make us addicted, the more we eat of it the more we want, digestive system is not meant to try to digest and breakdown highly artificial food, hence the beer belly 'bloated' look, you can look fat without eating much fat

so what should we be eating? I would like to avoid wheat, but flour is used in so many products, does it mean buying gluten-free products only? I would happily (I think) live on meat and vegetables without wheat/gluten, but would find sugar harder to give up.

I know you advocate a grain free diet FM, which sounds great, but how practical is it to achieve on a day to day basis?

i tried to go gluten free and i felt ill.

luckily my test showed no gluten intolerance so went straight back on the bread.

im still a bit wary of having too much bread though so i tend to replace my morning slice with a bowl of oats which is gluten free

Novak Djokovic went completely gluten free in his diet at a time when he was suffering from a lot of injuries, used to pull out mid way through matches with one injury or another and ever since hardly a retirement and many trophies later,

It's like smoking, my mum gave it up a year ago after smoking 20 years and now can't stand the smell of it.

there are probably three areas.

one is the gluten. gluten is a protein present in wheat. coeliac disease is a autoimmune disorder affecting some individuals. it is triggered by ingesting gluten with a largely well understood pathology that can be tested for.

then there's wheat/gluten intolerance, which is a much greyer area and not readily understood or possible to classify. in some cases it may be that the symptoms are not attributable to the wheat itself but what is added to it (yeast may be a culprit)

then there's starch (which is just a glucose polymer) in the absence of fibre, which slows down absorption of the sugar. that's the same reason why fruit juice isn't great. 20 apples is much less damaging than the filtered juice from 20 apples.

and as for djokovic, the readiness with which he told everyone about his gluten free diet and CVAC pod sessions as an explanation for a question which wasn't being directly asked (i.e. his rather sudden increase in stamina) along with another example of answering a question he wasn't asked by Courier at the end of an AO match smacks of someone hiding something.

Wrong thread but hey ho!

In regards to how sustainable it is to go wheat-free and what do you eat instead.

Yes it can seem daunting because wheat is so pervasive but you’re thinking with your old sugar-addicted brain here. Once it is out of your system, which is around five to seven days, you no longer crave it. In my opinion the thing to do is to snack on foods low on the glycemic index, that’s why I suggest cheese and nuts – any kind of nuts as long as they are whole (and also not cashews). For breakfast you could eat instead of cereal a range of nuts, whole milk with either some berries or a few prunes. Egg and bacon is perfectly acceptable. At lunch times I often eat some left over spinach, cauliflower, broccoli with some hard boiled eggs drizzled in olive oil, which replaces sandwiches for me. I then don’t get sleepy and wake up needing a cup of tea and some biscuits (wheat), feeling groggy and anxious. This is just a sign of low blood sugar after the insulin response to the sandwiches causes fat storage triggered by the high sugar levels in the bread.

I also eat chocolate, not in large quantities, but Lindt 90% cacao – very low sugar.

I make sauces, which usually require flour but you can buy almond flour although I use chickpea flour, which is not low on the glycemic index, but I don’t use much of it.

For main meals, just like anyone else as long as there’s no wheat, it’s not a very big difference.

I think you have to accept that you’ll need to increase fat and I know it can be hard to let go of the dogma that it is bad for you, but I’m as slim as I have ever been – I was 11.5 stone, 6ft, slim, but with a tyre and boobs despite that. The increase in good fats (cheese, butter, eggs, meat with the fat on) satiates you more easily, doesn’t raise insulin hardly at all and you forget about wheat and you get slimmer.

It is interesting about Djokovic, I knew he was low carb and haven’t read his book about his gluten free diet, but it sounds to me like he’s on a ketogenic diet, which is actually what I follow. Basically you make the body burn ketones instead of glucose, but you can’t do that if you're still eating wheat because it is so high in carbohydrate. Why would he do that? It’s the fact that when you produce ketones you have unlimited access to fat for burning, whereas when you burn glucose you have a limit before you hit the wall and that’s it and you run out of glycogen. It gives him a big advantage in stamina, if that is indeed what he’s doing.

You should have a look at this woman. Now I know she’s a little (possibly very) irritating at first, but she knows her stuff and – she’s 47. Just to be clear, this woman cannot do cardio because of a smashed up knee and she’s on a low carb, high fat diet with no wheat or gluten. She looks like she does on a high fat low carb. She doesn’t look like she’s going to keel over anytime soon from the effects of fat.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6afiprUPRA

Finally back to wheat, I gave up wheat not having read Wheat Belly or the problems with gluten. I gave it up because I read a study suggesting it could be responsible for bowel complaints, which I was having problems with (IBS, constipation etc). I have given up every food in my life to try to fix it but never wheat because I totally believed the ‘healthy wholegrain’ message.

Within about a week I was much better, but to my complete surprise it has gotten rid of years and years of back, neck, hip, leg and knee aches. For the last 3 years I have woken every morning around 4am with a bad back. I was unable to put my arms behind my head on the pillow or lay on my right side. I woke up on the 8th morning of not eating wheat at 7.30am having slept the entire night and with no pain whatsoever. I feel like I have got new arms and legs, I don’t groan when I get up or down, I don’t have lower back pain when I lean over the washbasin, it’s incredible. I’m much more solid mentally, the fog has lifted and it’s much harder for something to knock me off balance mentally. In fact if you read what Djokovic says or William Davis in Wheat Belly or any of the people that have tried giving up wheat very many of them say the same things.

It really makes me laugh when people try to dismiss the claims about wheat from their armchairs. COBBLERS, I say. Just try it and tell me you feel no benefit whatsoever. Just to make it clear I have never been gluten intolerant, I loved it. But without it I am much better, stronger, faster – like Steve Austin. Seriously though, just try it for 10 days, I don’t reckon you even need a month. You have to be scrupulous, read the labels and don’t think you can get a way with a little gluten, you can’t.

Flower myth what would you have for an evening meal??

I forgot to add, I eat it rarely but Quinoa is a pseudograin that's highly thought of by many. You can have it for breakfast or with your evening meal, you can toast it, or you can prepare it the normal way then toast it. I tend to avoid it because it does cause some irritation for me at times and it's also high carb. But if your giving up wheat, and although Dr Davis doesn't think you should eat it, it's still quite a useful protein-rich food that you can use to replace some of your wheat intake.

Before you stop eating certain foods it's wise to establish if the foods you suspect are really making you ill.
The gold standard for establishing food intolerances is to go on an elimination diet.

Many people have had their lives changed by simply eliminating stuff from their diets. And made their GPs look like monkeys in the process.

Cheers flower been feeling lethargic recently and was told to cut down on alcohol which I have lucky if I drink more than twice a month now but
It's made no difference. I don't binge drink when I go have a couple either.
Wondered if it could be diet linked.

I just made up my own based on a studies I came across about bowel/digestive conditions that eliminated chocolate, dairy, tomatoes, there was something else and wheat. I started last August after being constantly messed up since Easter 2013. I was eating tons of tomatoes, which I love but I have felt before they don’t really suit me. When I reintroduced them they made me bad again, In fact all but the dairy causes me problems, for some reason I seem fine on dairy. I can eat little chocolate, like say 90% Lindt I can get away with. I don’t eat tomatoes or wheat at all now, I’ve forgotten what the other thing was, which I probably didn’t eat any way, might have been eggs but at the time I had the mortal fear of eggs from our health advice, I eat them now.

I don’t know if it is connected, mentioning migraines, I’ve been having visual migraines for about 5 years, but not any since I gave up wheat – may be totally unrelated though, as I ate wheat before 5 years and didn’t have them then.

Yet more, I actually started a diary on Feb 19th on my computer precisely to keep track of what I was eating and its effect on me for the very reason above - that it is easy to forget what you did and when and how it affected me, you tend to compress and exaggerate otherwise.

some excellent posts, learn a lot in a day. will let you know in a month if there are changes, literally thrown out cereals and the white bread already,