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Sunni minority in Saudi Arabia BBC News 24 now
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Women are equal to men.....and breathhhhhhhh.....get used to it
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get used to it
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Men cant go in a pub now and have a smoke and drink...because WOMEN SAY NO
Women are trying to stop men watching port....because WOMEN SAY NO Men will not be able to say what they want to women on the internet soon...because WOMEN SAY NO Me will not be allowed to criticize women at work......because WOMEN SAY NO our society is becoming ever more feminised...far too risk adverse, because WOMEN SAY YES |
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Women want equal rights at work
but this includes maternity leave, paid child care, hours that must suit them, etc how is this equality?????????????????????????? |
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Any perks would be balanced by an equal perk for men
...by Law |
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I don't think men get pregnant?????????????????
We will do whatever we want in our society...a democratic choice My point is that Muslim society reflects the different roles for men and women which in fact has been decided by evolution.. Still I could never be a Muslim, but if they want to, why should we bother????????? |
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In the 60/70s I thought men and women had it about right
Yep, right thru the "Carry on" years. |
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The Leopard 31 May 14 23:35
Wiki : There are some Hindus and Buddhists in Saudi Arabia. Compensation in court cases discriminates against non-Muslims: once fault is determined, a Muslim receives all of the amount of compensation determined, a Jew or Christian half, and all others a sixteenth Bit strange as there are NO Jews in Saudi Arabia |
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Yep, right thru the "Carry on" years.
 we had it tight then BB |
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so apart from the stoning ebulgery it sure is fine to be a woman in these countries
gee !! I thought you were sensible and not an apologist for the legalised suppression of women. check out the middle east countries not signing off on the UNHCR women's rights bill. check out the proposed legalising of marrying girls as 8 in - of all places - IRAQ Are you aware there is a charity which advertises nearly every day on Sky. It is all about child marriages 8 and above (of course not all muslim) do I need to go on - giving birth to a child in a cell while under the threat of death (now supposedly cancelled) criticise authorities in Iran gets you 20 years oh and lets get on to the honour killings and disappearances in this country a muslim legal eagle has gone on record that he suspects it is many many more I will just leave you with that thought. |
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Moisok
no I would not approve of these but you must realise that Iraq is a democratically elected Islamic fundamentalist government voted for by men and women Persuasion and time is needed for these countries, you cannot impose our values on them by war As for what goes on in this country, well all women including Muslims have the same rights and this must be enforced regardless of religion I can see where you are coming from Moisok, but you cannot just change people overnight otherwise we are returning to our Empire mentality, we will exploit your country because you are load of savages I do not agree with this |
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The question we should be asking
is why are these countries hanging onto to Islam, in fact becoming more Islamic??????? My opinion is that our values are themselves very poor, but we are blind to this I think we must back off on this idea of universal human values, We must tolerate differences Of course we can protest at outrageous things, perhaps even use the boycott weapon if they are that bad....don't force them though, they will only push back basic human psychology |
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but the religion that backs up the politics is one that cannot be criticised and cannot be changed
check it out. CAN'T CHANGE IT If anyone tries they kill you. |
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as I said they choose it, or the majority does, in my opinion
I can see we will argue all day on this moisok, so perhaps we should leave it I know you are basically a decent bloke, |
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The question we should be asking
is why are these countries hanging onto to Islam, in fact becoming more Islamic??????? My opinion is that our values are themselves very poor, but we are blind to this I think we must back off on this idea of universal human values, We must tolerate differences Of course we can protest at outrageous things, perhaps even use the boycott weapon if they are that bad....don't force them though, they will only push back basic human psychology Read the Quran (good version here) - http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/ Educate yourself on the history and story of Muhammad (The Message is a good film to watch) They are hanging onto Islam because they believe the Quran to be the word of God - revealed to Muhammad via the Angel Gabriel. (Muhammad could not read or write, he was illiterate). If you have any questions i'll try to answer to what I know from my own understanding. |
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Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?
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well even if he did I'm not grassing on him they are nutters you know
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Wiki :
From the 20th century onwards, a common point of contention has been Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, who was six or seven when betrothed to Muhammad and nine, or according to al-Tabari, ten, when the marriage was consummated. American historian Denise Spellberg states that "these specific references to the bride's age reinforce Aisha's pre-menarcheal status and, implicitly, her virginity." Colin Turner, a professor of Islamic studies, states that since such marriages between an older man and a young girl were customary among the Bedouins, Muhammad's marriage would not have been considered improper by his contemporaries. Moreover, Karen Armstrong, the British author on comparative religion, has affirmed that "There was no impropriety in Muhammad's marriage to Aisha. Marriages conducted in absentia to seal an alliance were often contracted at this time between adults and minors who were even younger than Aisha. This practice continued in Europe well into the early modern period." Critics such as Baptist pastor Jerry Vines and the Dutch Party for Freedom leader Geert Wilders have cited the age of Aisha to denounce Muhammad for having had sex with a nine-year-old, referring to Muhammad as a pedophile.Pandit Chamupati wrote that Aisha was about the same age as Muhammad’s granddaughter, and a better way for Muhammad to make Abu Bakr (Aisha'a father) a relative would have been to adopt Aisha as his own daughter and marry her off. |
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as they continue to do today - check out Iraq's proposed laws of marriage to 8 year olds.
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Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?
I don't know. I'm just trying to help with my own factual understanding of the region and history in reply to his post. |
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I think you will find values were different in those days
in Europe as well Anyway you achieve nothing by attacking a religion, except make it stronger that is because a religion is not an entirely rational belief...it is a psychological need in us but feel free to go ahead, won't change anything |
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what do you suggest moisok...we invade Iraq again???????????????
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all this shows to me is the complete ridiculousness of what we trying to achieve
we seem to be sending them back to the stone age! Sadly we have also left behind a terrible civil war in Syria, which we can do nothing about because Russia insist on holding Assad up We cannot risk going head to head with Russia Christians are being attacked in Pakistan because of our interference in Afghanistan and we hear the appalling news a woman has been stoned to death  ..this sort of punishmentshould have disappeared hundreds of years ago |
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Sunnis are the majority in Saudi Arabia, as I said before ( for those new to thread ) ....mistake by OP
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So ebulGery, if Islam one day becomes dominant in the UK and Shariah Law is voted in would you that's fine because adults voted for it?
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If that is what the majority want...yes
that is what DEMOCRACY is all about are you saying people have no right of say in how they choose to live??????? |
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So you would happily live in a society which allows slavery, stoning of women, wife beating cutting of limb, non muslims being humiliated as second class citizens where they must pay jizya(higher tax rate for non believers)?
Muslims are brainwashed and have no choice but to believe these laws are from God. People have a right to believe and live how they want something Islam does not allow!! For example according to Islamic law apostates should be executed, how the heck is that democracy? Islam is the complete opposite of democracy and once in control there's no going back. |
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no I would not
but if the majority of people wanted it, I would have to who has the right to take away the sort of society people want?????????? |
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The point I am making..is if people want to be Muslim
then that is their right...not everybody has the same values |
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why should we worry..if that is what they want??????????????????
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My question was regards the UK.
Regardless there is no democracy when it comes to Islam. It is a political ideology which does not allow freedom of thought and expression. |
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This is what Islam is about:
Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. Tt's about world domination. It began with violence and it will end with violence. Look at sunni and shiites muslims who kill each other by the thousands each year. Muslims complain about the west, but more muslims are killed by muslims then by anyone else!! |
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formboy
they do not get it and it is too late even for this country already here and dominating a few inner city areas as you say - muslims do not have a choice - scrub that - they do - stay a muslim or .......... ha ha!!!! |
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All Imams should be deported if not born here.
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moisok, political correctness had gone too far.
Islam is protected and treated differently by politicians and the media. Why? Because muslims will retaliate with threats and violence just as their prophet did over 1400 hundred years ago. Islam has managed to spread and become dominant throughout history through violence and fear. Today in the 21st century it is no difference. People who run this country are nothing but cowards and this country will one day pay the price where democracy will become nothing but history. I still believe there is time but something must be done soon before it's too late. |
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what do you propose formboy, kill them all, it worked for adolf
We invaded Afghanistan, We invaded Iraq, We attacked Libya yet it is they who are violent , not us  |
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Iran threw out the Americans and voted in an Islamic Fundamentalist state,
Once we forced democracy on Iraq, they voted in an Islamic Fundamentalist state, one we forced democracy on Libya they voted in an Islamic Fundamentalist state Egypt voted in an Islamic Fundamentalist state, since overthrown by the military Afghanistan is a fairly Islamic Fundamentalist state, just not as fundamentalist as the Taliban Pakistan is becoming an Islamic Fundamentalist state, their own government is trying stop this so what does this tell this,or should do, they like being Muslims, it is their own choice |
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so why does it matter to us
none of these countries have the weapons to threaten us |
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As for Muslims in our country, unfortunately that is our own fault,
we have voted in successive governments since about the early 1950's who have a deep hatred of the indigenous population of this country they want everybody in the world to come and live here and replace us, they bought their religion with them |
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Talking of Hitler, Islam and nazism have plenty in common.
Of course the answer isn't to kill them, nor do I suggest the wars were justified. But they are a red herring as Islam is about world domination regardless of any invasions or attacks. Islam is a political ideology that once gets a hold will never let go, unless all out war occurs. So anyone who favours democracy must by default be anti Islam. Unfortunately this country has let things get out of hand and reversing the damage won't be easy, however there measures that can be made to halt the rapid spread of Islam. Here are some suggestions of what could be done: http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6208-how-should-we-remove-islam-from-britain-and-the-west |