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the deafening silence
iraq - new policies for marrying up to 9 year old girls middle east govts refuse to sign off on UNHCR rights for women stonings of woman in pakistan pregnant christian woman forced to give berth chained in cell who has been sentenced to death sunnis suppressed by majority in middle east(saudi arabia) what else do you want to know Iran - don't dance on You tube. bradford - muslim extremists taking over school been going on for years!! do you get the drift ?? |
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Islam is evil ?
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Oh now leopard - that is racist/extremist/anti muslim rhetoric - you should be ashamed of your self.
Don't start bringing up child abduction, forced marriages and honour killings in britain - you will be banned - and quite right too!!?? |
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and don't you dare even mention the Yemen!!!
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They won`t take over here, we are too feckin hard. Seriously, they will be kept in check.
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You should see the apologist carp on sky news yet again about immigration. No one wants to nail it down and get into a proper for and against debate or what is good or bad about it . Avoid at all costs!!!!
I really think that somes up the debate - there isn't one unless a ukipper comes up with an anti view. |
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The eussr has sucked us in and we are being blown out in bubbles.
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I know they are left to seemingly run amok and are cut plenty of slack but are only allowed to go so far, believe me.
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You want to check out Yemen - originally a protectorate of britain and the state of it today
Strangely, something I was involved in. |
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If they have oil!!??
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what age do you think they should go to shanelee??
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ps I was there when we withdrew!!
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moisok don't you know you are a racist if you think there should be a cap on immigration numbers whatever colour they might be. What I have never had answered sufficiently is this - If you are an EU citizen and wish to settle in Britain they you may do this. However, how exactly are local councils and the Government supposed to plan effectively for services such as hospitals, schools etc when they really have no idea what sort of population they may have in 5, or 10 years time?
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Bounties for catching illegals is a start
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like 10000 places for nurses to train so they can, cheaply, recruit from outside the uk
students cannot get places to train as doctors in the uk can you see the idea!!??/ its all about cost what is racist about that except racist against our own uk people black asian or white. even the asian MPs in Labour are now campaigning about this |
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you do not understand what is going on
it is about labour and capital providing labour for profit learn that first then come back |
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If they cannot ship them in then they will ship the jobs out east.
If I was running a business this is what I would do. PROFIT is good. I employed someone where the government paid him and it was no cost to me. Love it!!!! |
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I was being sarcastic in the first part moisok
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Oh, and to be pedantic, Saudi is Sunni majority leopard.
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Hank - they will be gunning for you now!!! Me - well I will be after the contracts- money rules!!!
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prosecution, suppression of women , but support of the west - what a tangled web we weave - silence from the left (except me) and from the feminist guardianista apologists
does it not stick in your throat people treated like non humans - yahck makes me sick and no pressure from our sickening so called politicians!!! |
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lol moisok - The immigration debate, now it has finally been able to get in to the mainstream is certainly not a black and white issue if you pardon the pun
I consider myself to have more left wing than right wing opinions, but to have a combination of both is healthy imo. However, there are too many on the left that scream racist at anyone that doesn't want to see the UK go from 60 odd million to 100+ within a few years! |
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Oh, and to get on track with the thread, that we are allies with Saudi is a disgrace. They cause a large degree of the trouble in the Middle East.
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and they are going to get you for starters!!! ha ha
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Minority not Sunni, correct (but they are fascistic against the minority):
Wiki : There are about 25 million people who are Muslim, or 97% of the total population.[227] However excluding foreign workers, about 100% of its population is Muslim.[228] Data for Saudi Arabia comes primarily from general population surveys, which are less reliable than censuses or large-scale demographic and health surveys for estimating minority-majority ratios.[227] About 85–90% of Saudis are Sunni, while Shias represent around 10–15% of the Muslim population.[229] The official and dominant form of Sunni Islam in Saudi Arabia is commonly known as Wahhabism (a name which some of its proponents consider derogatory, preferring the term Salafism[230]), founded in the Arabian Peninsula by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab in the eighteenth century, is often described as 'puritanical', 'intolerant' or 'ultra-conservative'. However, proponents consider that its teachings seek to purify the practice of Islam of any innovations or practices that deviate from the seventh-century teachings of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad and his companions.[231] Shias face persecution in employment and religious ceremonies.[232] In 2010, the U.S. State Department stated that in Saudi Arabia "freedom of religion is neither recognized nor protected under the law and is severely restricted in practice" and that "government policies continued to place severe restrictions on religious freedom".[6] No faith other than Islam is permitted to be practiced, although there are nearly a million Christians – nearly all foreign workers – in Saudi Arabia.[233] There are no churches or other non-Muslim houses of worship permitted in the country.[6] Even private prayer services are forbidden in practice and the Saudi religious police reportedly regularly search the homes of Christians.[233] Foreign workers have to observe Ramadan but are not allowed to celebrate Christmas or Easter.[233] Conversion by Muslims to another religion (apostasy) carries the death penalty, although there have been no confirmed reports of executions for apostasy in recent years.[6] Proselytizing by non-Muslims is illegal,[6] and the last Christian priest was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1985.[233] There are some Hindus and Buddhists in Saudi Arabia. Compensation in court cases discriminates against non-Muslims: once fault is determined, a Muslim receives all of the amount of compensation determined, a Jew or Christian half, and all others a sixteenth.[233] Saudi Arabia has officially identified atheists as terrorists.[234] The regulations place secular citizens who commit thought crimes in the same category as violent terrorist groups[235] According to Human Rights Watch, the Shia minority face systematic discrimination from the Saudi government in education, the justice system and especially religious freedom.[236] Restrictions are imposed on the public celebration of Shia festivals such as Ashura and on the Shia taking part in communal public worship. |
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Moisok
I am not sure they do suppress women myself..it is just in our society women suppress men and nobodies noticed yet However I can understand you complaining about the list you put up, I would complain myself if it was here I still think the best thing we can do IS TO LEAVE THEM TO GET ON WITH IT |
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But not when they are in this country !
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fair enough Leopard...I agree with that
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unfortunately the islamists are here!! They will follow examples from abroad with their compliance and even fiscal backing - until anyone realises that they will know nothing!!!
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London could turn into a Baghdad within 5 years....factions fighting factions
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ps and if you do not think they suppress women look how they behave and dress in public
full wack for the woman in black - full garb - geezer in reverse us baseball cap, trendy t shirt , shorts and trainers - in posh french cafe by the US embassy I frequent nah !!! nothing like do as I say or as I do nah!!! You must be right western dress ok for guy but not for the women ha ha!!!! I must be so fn racist I spent years abroad, some in muslim communities and never ever saw them dressed like this!! You tell me I know fk all - I have just been there - Iran, Malaysia, Singapore etc etc it is a political movement that includes the control of women wake up!!!! !! |
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If it is true. Can you imagine training 400 young people in weapons and explosives and then indoctrinating them in politico/religious dogma.!!??
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moisok....you remind me of a young punterz....guy used to play poker on BF...you're not him are you?
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what I love about it is we have an asian mp on sky banging on about it now ha ha
talk about smell the vote!!! not the coffee |
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Top head to head player ?
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i have only played hookey and gin rummy!!???
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and I am so fkn old i cant sea 2 type - and some wood say a good job 2
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Was a long shot....he had definite opinions about things
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moisok
In Iraq before SH was overthrown, women were allowed to dress western style, so he was forward looking for a Muslim leader WE overthrew him, so what is happening in Iraq now is OUR FAULT Pakistan has been destabilised by this never ending war in Afghanistan The Taliban have now moved to Pakistan, so there is now a strong Islamic fundamentalist movement there Again it is OUR FAULT for not staying out of Afghanistan is the first place As for women in Muslim society, they have a different role than men, and this is very formalised so I do not necessarily see this as the suppression of women per se In our society men and women are seen as the same and can do the same roles. But there is actually a problem with this because in fact men ad women are not quite the same. In the 60/70s I thought men and women had it about right, we worked in partnership. Nowadays I think we are wrong because women spend most of their time attacking men, saying how bad men are, etc, how women are all discriminated against....well by men I assume????? Only I have never seen this....so I have no doubt we are giving women far too much power in our society now....I would like to see a sensible mean here. |