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Well with working class traitors like you Angel etc supporting the Tory posh boys your probably right.
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I thinkthat will find it is the Labour Party that are the traitors to the working class.
And now you are suggesting whatever Miliband tells us on the Andrew Marr show could be a pack of lies. Not the most most convincing argument from a member of the Labour Party. |
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they are still flooding in
in their hundreds and thousands 4.5 million foreign employees you couldn't make it up northernliar desperately trying to cover up Labour's crude attempt to get a population that will vote for them!! exposed!!!! every job taken by a foreigner is one less opportunity for our young black, asian and white people. |
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northernliar the supposed marxist who supports a non socialist labour party
I note he has never replied to this whenever I put it up. Self proclaimed marxist pretend socialist owner(?) of a kebab shop!!?? |
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To repeat ( just for you moist) this time it might go in !
A shocking revelation on the front page of the Daily Express today:"Migrants do take British jobs" it claims. An "official report now confirms what the Daily Express has said all along" apparently. In a commentary in the paper, we are told "it seems almost self-evident that a huge influx of migrant labour to any country would damage the job prospects of the native workforce". A victory for common sense then – keep immigrants out and reduce unemployment. Except that the report doesn't really say that at all – and even if it did, the effect is so weak as to be worth completely ignoring. The Express is right – the report does say that some British workers may have been "displaced" by the effects of immigration. But the idea that immigration is responsible for high unemployment is ludicrous. Here's what the Migration Advisory Committee goes on to say: But this possible displacement of British workers only holds for those migrants who have been here for under five years. Both EU and non-EU migrants who have been in the UK for over five years are not associated with displacement of British born workers. Between 1995 and 2010 employment of such working age migrants rose by approximately 2.1 million. The associated displacement of British born workers was, on our own calculations, around 160,000 of the additional 2.1 jobs held by migrants, or about 1 in 13. So on average, it takes 13 immigrants to "displace" one British job – not exactly the "common sense" conclusion. Moreover, those immigrants who do "take" British jobs are temporary, non-EU workers – many are young Australians, Canadians and so on with working holiday visas, rather than Polish plumbers. It's an obvious point, but those immigration rights tend to be reciprocal so British workers have equal rights to work abroad. Blocking non-EU temporary workers probably wouldn't cut unemployment at all, since it would reduce options open for emigration to British workers. And at a rate of 13 jobs created for every one lost, that's an awful lot of tax revenue to forgo for the sake of one job. The fact is, no matter what pressure groups like Migration Watch and newspapers like the Express like to assert, there is simply no economic case to be made against immigration. In fact, it's the very opposite: by widening our opportunities, the free movement of labour makes us on average, much wealthier and the world a more interesting, happier place. I would also add that even if we accept the curiously nationalist decision of the Migration Advisory Committee to only consider the welfare of existing residents, then a much better solution is to auction off work permits, instead of cutting the number. |
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Too many people in this country for facilities.
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4.5 million foreign workers here
a massive increase in year by year immigration of 300,000 THESE ARE THE ONES WE KNOW ABOUT go tell all that rubbish you spout 'facts' to the million young people on the dole you have sold out to the capitalists and eussr - your masters |
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I struggle to comprehend how so called socialists like norternliar and 'facts' can defend what is happening as we are flooded by outsiders. Talk about the betrayal of the working class.
Labour as sold its heart and soul to the capitalists. Meanwhile the posh boys and the rich enjoy themselves in smashing the wage barrier DOWNWARDS!! This is what northernliar and 'facts' represent - rather odd isn't it - defending the influx of people to this country while undermining people who already live here and who seek jobs every job taken by a foreigner is one less opportunity for our young black, asian and white people. |
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i prefer this post norhernmoron
justnow 12 May 14 14:11 No, of course not, there are a few left posting on here who are not Larry, but there is NO DOUBT that you are Larry. There is also NO DOUBT that so are these characters: Eeternaloptimist Gnarley chatlame miskstick paddletoe Irish Celtic masher Room 0182 call me a taxi mobo jed.davison vin2385 121.5 eerway tommythejudge Milwall 66 errytay JASS Squeeze Firmly drever EMPIRE DAY RickiBobby History Maker BARROWBOY macarony wildmanfromborneo bbc's embarrassed dad Q.O.F.E Angel Gabrial Oh dear, another own goal no 'lizzybizzy' on the list. I wonder why? And for future reference: 'bbc's embarassed dad' is none other than your fellow lunatic, northernlad. Seek psychiatric help. A copy of 'just nows' post, that I copied. Not your day is it northernlad aka 'bbc's embarrassed dad.' [b]Your only ally on here is the fake major, and even he thinks you're EO as well. You know what this means don't you... YOUR BEST FRIEND IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS WRONG!! |
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moisok 15 May 14 19:31
'........I struggle to comprehend .......' You make that very obvious |
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Don't you worry about the near million illegals here - in fact 'facts' they don't actually know.
Then there is the 300000 the tories cannot do a thing about. Then the 250 000 suddenly discovered they had miscounted and so it goes on. Lets not worry about 4.5 million foreign workers here. Let's not worry about the agency recruitment of low paid foreign workers. Lets not worry about the companies that only recruit foreign labour. But lets worry about people like you and northernliar who attempt to confuse and obfuscate by silly personal snide comments like 'I struggle to comprehend' As usual you run out of facts 'facts' and argument and resort to the above comment. Unfortunately there are people who claim to be socialist but in fact 'facts' support the tories and capitalists in their aim to bring down wages and turn the place into a low wage economy. |
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I keep referring you to my previous post/S regarding the myth of immigrants taking British jobs ( it contains facts ) You studiously keep ignoring it.
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No you don't This is all old hat from you and your masters from Labour. Even they have had to admit how wrong they have been.
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Not Nigels finest interview.
James O`Brien drills Nigel. It`s quite uncomfortable viewing. http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-farage-v-james-obrien-live-from-1130-90532 |
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That's because the smug twa t in the pink shirt wouldn't let him speak, much like Griffin on QT.
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Out smugged by a pinky.
However, he had Nigel rocking about his comments about feeling uncomfortable with foreign languages being spoken in public places. O`Brien reminding Nigel that his own children were indeed bilingual and bilingual people including Nigels German/English speaking children are allowed to speak any chosen language in public. O`Brien certainly had Nigel reeling on the ropes. |
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kenny mann 17 May 14 01:05
That's because the smug twa t in the pink shirt wouldn't let him speak, much like Griffin on QT. Otherwise Griffin would have been able to articulate a convincing case for his blatantly fascist and racist policies ? Don't make me laugh ! |
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That's not the point!
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James O'Brien finally shows up Farage for the racist bigot he is,
Brilliant interview, which had the usually smug and laughing Farage spluttering for a viable retort. If there were any doubts about how transparent this idiot is , this makes for essential viewing. Farage is a con man. And he was exposed on this programme. |
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The anti Farage brigade are mostly either foreigners or people who live in a nice leafy area surrounded by white English (nap)
I don't eat meat ftr. |
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kenny mann 17 May 14 02:12
The anti Farage brigade are mostly either foreigners or people who live in a nice leafy area surrounded by white English (nap) Utter nonsense |
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It would be interesting to see a public vote on this question.
Who would you prefer to move into the property next to yours. A) 7 Romanian men B) 7 German men I think that we all know what the answer would be. So the next question is, are the majority of the public officially racist like Nigel? Serious question. |
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An obnoxious question. And arrogant of you to say we all know what the answer would be . Do we ?
Romanian,German ,Russian, Italian ...........doesn't matter what the fck their nationality is. Good and bad behaviour as neighbours has no bearing on which country you come from. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people in the UK who have white middle class neighbours who make their life he'll by living next door. I repeat a stupid question. And yes, a bigoted ,racist one ! Shame on you. |
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Sorry - AG . Re read your post and realised from what direction you were aiming the question. Apologies for the personal comment.
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Yep,not often facts gets the wrong end of the stick.
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It would be interesting to see a public vote on this question.
Who would you prefer to move into the property next to yours. A) 7 Romanian men B) 7 German men I think that we all know what the answer would be. So the next question is, are the majority of the public officially racist like Nigel? Is this to illustrate Farage's comments on race or homosexuality? Serious question. |
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Race Roger, but you could use it for the other i guess.
No offence taken Facts. |
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It would be interesting to see a public vote on this question.
Who would you prefer to move into the property next to yours. A) 7 Romanian men B) 7 German men Neither. |
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I think farage is saying what a majority would think/say about romanians moving in next door.
Sad but true. |
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you note that when northerliar is caught out lying he is off and away to an easier target like farage
he has now lied about a 9 year old witch, support of thatcher, UNICEF, and the army. How many more lies does he tell? Supposed kebab shop owner as a marxizt supporting non socialist labour party. and never answers any of these issues. |
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I wonder what Usmaan Attan would say on romanians or any immigrant!!?? see his interview on sky news!!!
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Whenever Farage speaks, just swop the word 'Jews' for 'immigrants' and it don't half sound bad?
'It's the Jews that are stealing our jobs' 'Would you like to live next door to some Jews' '60 Million Jews are coming' Scarey or what? |
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Romanian, German, Martian I don't give a tuppeny fk.
Do they buy into 'Civic Britishness'? Do they contribute? Do they work? Are they a laugh? Are they good neighbours? Ive got a white British family next door to me - the daughter doesn't work, doesn't want to work and has chosen benefits as a lifestyle. They make noise until all hours, park inconsiderately and are a general pain in the ar$e. So if you can give me the contact details of these Germans and Romanians I'll invite them round and see if we can't evict the lot I've currently got and put them in instead - can't be any worse, that's for def'. |
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You are so right big issue
When are all these jews coming then?? I wouldn't mind a few of them living next door to me, instead of all these eastern europeans snatching all our jobs which the government can do nothing about while we are still in the eussr. |
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at least jews wouldn't be trafficking thousands of young girls into this country, unlike the eastern european gangs.
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Changing the subject .. I think we should be putting our thoughts into solving RogerButler's problem.. must be a nightmare there. :(
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lol Ivor.
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MORE LIES FROM NORTHERNNUTJOB
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NLad is seriously unbright. Nigel wants quality INDIVIDUALS - said nothing at all about quality nationalities. Stop making things up NLad - it leaves you with zero credibility.
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I must admit that is how I perceived his comment that we should have qualified people rather than un-skilled labour
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