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By:
themightymac
When: 22 Aug 14 00:40
What do you mean by that racist comment? If it wasn`t for the Scots, the world would still be living in the Dark Ages.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Aug 14 01:36
You'll know the Scots that are voting yes because they are constantly banging on about fearties, ambition, once in a lifetime etc. etc
By:
Alias
When: 22 Aug 14 12:27
Bad in what way, dewey?
By:
Alias
When: 22 Aug 14 12:30
You'll know the Scots that are voting yes because they are constantly banging on about fearties, ambition, once in a lifetime etc. etc

Whereas the unionists believe all the lies and disinformation in what passes for the printed media. Stand by for the real dirty tricks in the final week of campaigning. Nothing will surprise me from the likes of the Daily Mail.
By:
Foinavon
When: 22 Aug 14 13:02
All the Scots I've ever met (and there have been many although I've never lived in Scotland)are decent hard-working people.

Does anyone in Scotland read the Daily Mail Alias?
By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Aug 14 13:06
They are not capable of thinking logically, and should not be allowed the vote.
By:
Stevie Strikes
When: 22 Aug 14 13:10
Thread now officialy GBB (Gone Beyond Banter)
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 22 Aug 14 13:17
scots are self sufficient in electricity exporting excess down south. Even building secondary structures/dams to supply England with more power from hydro electic sources.

oil rich country.

fishing waters.

whisky makers make £5 billion a year. Almost as much as the oil.

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taxation of their businesses generate 99 percent of their income. they send this to westminster. they then send back 100 percent of what they spend. The english then say ... look we are giving you more than you take in. we are propping you up. But they forgot to mention the oil revenues? 1,600 billion so far. nice accountancy.
By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Aug 14 13:25
Independence is fine but that is not what they want. They will continue to send thousands of young people who can't get work
to England just as Ireland has done and claim everythings fine.
By:
Alias
When: 22 Aug 14 13:26
Does anyone in Scotland read the Daily Mail Alias?

A few misguided souls Foinavon, mostly very senior citizens I suspect. It labels itself The SCOTTISH Daily Mail, but it's about as Scottish as Eton. I predict a very personal attack on A Salmond and/or N Sturgeon close 18/9. Be surprised if I'm wrong.
By:
Alias
When: 22 Aug 14 13:27
That's fine then lfc1971. High unemployment/low wage economy fits right in with fascists like you. You must be very pleased.
By:
Foinavon
When: 22 Aug 14 13:54
A few misguided souls Foinavon, mostly very senior citizens I suspect. It labels itself The SCOTTISH Daily Mail, but it's about as Scottish as Eton. I predict a very personal attack on A Salmond and/or N Sturgeon close 18/9. Be surprised if I'm wrong.

The people I see picking it up in my local supermarket are also of the older generation. Although I too am from that generation, wouldn't be seen dead with it. Awful rag.
By:
Alias
When: 22 Aug 14 14:46
I'm cracking on myself Foinavon, now well in bus pass land! Like you, I wouldn't even pick up the Mail, with or without a disguise.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Aug 14 14:59
Whereas the unionists believe all the lies and disinformation in what passes for the printed media. Stand by for the real dirty tricks in the final week of campaigning. Nothing will surprise me from the likes of the Daily Mail.

I think you just proved my point. Implying anybody voting no is an idiot being hoodwinked.  There are a lot of undecided people or those who aren't steadfast in either camp who I imagine are put off by the quite aggressive, mocking tone many yes voters adopt.
By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Aug 14 18:02
On the whole those in favour of maintaining the union seem more sympatico.
They are romantics and indi idealists really. Yes voters do seem the type who
know the pri ce of everything and the value of nothing, aggressive and charmless.
By:
akabula
When: 22 Aug 14 18:12
Whereas the unionists believe all the lies and disinformation in what passes for the printed media. Stand by for the real dirty tricDoes anyone in Scotland read the Daily Mail Alias?

A few misguided souls Foinavon, mostly very senior citizens I suspect. It labels itself The SCOTTISH Daily Mail, but it's about as Scottish as Eton. I predict a very personal attack on A Salmond and/or N Sturgeon close 18/9. Be surprised if I'm wrong. ks in the final week of campaigning. Nothing will surprise me from the likes of the Daily Mail.

Nothing to worry about then Alias so why bring it up?
By:
Alias
When: 22 Aug 14 22:20
Shrewd_dude, I'm sure you're aware of what the Daily Mail et al are capable of.



So akabula is a MAIL readerLaugh
By:
bongo
When: 22 Aug 14 22:48
Themightymac has made this fantastic observation: 'All the English people who live in my locality and there are quite a lot for a small place, are voting YES, like eternaloptimist plans to do. Only Scots that I know who are voting NO, and that includes 2 of my brothers, are ones that are married to English women. Perhaps they think that voting YES is an anti English vote which is complete and utter nonsense.'

This in no way affects the outcome of the vote, but I've noticed this too, and would love to see a poll breakdown of the English voters who live in Scotland as I suspect without evidence from yougov that the majority of the English who live in Scotland want to live in an independent Scotland, while the majority of Scots who live in Scotland favour the Union by about 3:2.

This is generally true of the English throughout the ages - if they've fecked off from England they don't want to be regarded as English any more. Those intellectual adventurous and extreme religious types that went to the USA in the 18th century voted through the gun to reject the dominant mother country. The Canadians and Australians and a few other former colonies have a lot of english heritage and rejected englishness at the ballot box afaik. But they keep the Queen as she's a monarch for the ages and a top commonwealth piece of totty who shares the love and goodwill of commonwealthness. She isn't liked because of englishness. She isn't that english anyway to be fair.

Some people ask what does it mean to be english? A belief in fair play, tolerance, or support for underdogs perhaps. It's a tough question, but take the englander out of england and it's odds on he or she doesn't want to be thought of as english any more. Apart from retired public sector workers in Spain. There's always exceptions.

I reckon if the ex-english went to Northern Ireland en masse, then NI would be out of the Union before you could say Giants Causeway, such is their tendency to escape the clutches of the country they came from.

Generalising majorly of course, smiles.
By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Aug 14 23:04
You can not make comparisons between England now and 100  or even 50 years ago. Simply because England
today is such a major disaster zone the English jn Scotland are hoping Scotland can break away and do things
differently, better. In a way they hope Scotland canbe like it was and England once was.
This is why it appeals to the English in Scotland to vote yes, it makes some sense.
By:
lfc1971
When: 22 Aug 14 23:06
It is really a vote against the frightening mess. England has become
By:
MadVlad
When: 22 Aug 14 23:15
lfc1971
lfc1971 22 Aug 14 13:06 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 3,682 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
They are not capable of thinking logically, and should not be allowed the vote.

Wow
By:
MadVlad
When: 22 Aug 14 23:17
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^ welcome to England.
By:
Alias
When: 23 Aug 14 11:49
bongo, in my recent experience, most English residents in Scotland able to vote will vote No, although I would say that roughly the over fifties would make up most of that number.
By:
Alias
When: 23 Aug 14 11:52
Foinavon 22 Aug 14 13:02 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 1,399 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog
All the Scots I've ever met (and there have been many although I've never lived in Scotland)are decent hard-working people.

Does anyone in Scotland read the Daily Mail Alias?
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lfc1971 22 Aug 14 13:06 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 3,683 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
They are not capable of thinking logically, and should not be allowed the vote.


I agree lfc1971. In fact I'd have all Daily Mail readers sectioned, just like you've been.LaughLaughLaugh
By:
call me a taxi
When: 23 Aug 14 12:05
If Scottyland goes Independent, will the boss man deport all the grevilles back to England? Silly
By:
sofiakenny
When: 23 Aug 14 13:04
far more Hamiltons than Grevilles.
By:
bongo
When: 23 Aug 14 15:58
@ Alias: most English residents in Scotland able to vote will vote No

I have to concede your point. Which makes my previous argument bollox, no matter how well written.
Yougov captured 177 voters classed as UK-born but not Scottish born in their last poll on this - the %s were Yes 22, No 61 with the rest being won't vote or don't know.
( . http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/nc8vsimg82/Times_Scotland_Results_140815_Monday.pdf )
The youngest want YES as do almost half of all men, while the elderly, the women, and the non-UK borns are more likely to be going for No.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 23 Aug 14 16:26
elderly women & foriegners makes sense
By:
Alias
When: 23 Aug 14 18:58
Refreshingly honest bongo.

One other angle: some English I have spoken to appear to be worried that if independence is realised, then any perceived anti Englishness will increase. Personally I think that if/where it exists, it's more likely to disappear after Yes/independence.
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