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Maczysz Dzieduszycki was a favourite artist of mine.
His 'Study In Plarkotex' was something to behold. |
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Here's the famous MD commenting on traffic on Putney Bridge, 9 years ago.
. http://putneysw15.com/default.asp?section=community&app=forum/ShowMessage.asp?ID=229966 |
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Perhaps they should all be shot??
But would only lead to a rise in prices!!! |
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Velasquez • July 20, 2015 12:35 AM BST
There you are - see, Egner is a proper artist who is willing to broaden his horizons. Egner, would you like to PURCHASE this progressive text-based work (TITLE : KAFFLIK XI) for ONE BIT COIN? Failing that, I'll accept two bags of chocolate coins from Poundland. Get in at the bottom, mate, as the actress said to the bishop. It's showing at the White Cube Gallery in the Autumn, along with HANNE DARBOVEN'S "Larsson or Laudrup ; Who Was the Better Painter?" Watch this space!  good stuff Velasquez.........KAFFLIK XI for around 180 quid then Vel.....tempting.... as artist or buyer being ahead of your time will always come at a cost of course....  .....however if I purchased your "progressive text-based work" then I suspect you may have to wait a few lifetimes in the future to cash in on future creations with your new found artistic fame. You see I am not a heavyweight in the world of arts patronage....and it seems to me that in the arts.... patronage is quite important...some would say all all.....after all... ..who decides if art is good...or even great.....the Artist??...the Artists Patron???...or the Buyer???? ..can there ever be an objective measure??????? ...so although I may lose out...I am going to do the decent thing...and refer you to a certain Mr Saatchi.....who may be able to catapult your fledging career into the stratosphere. |
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...oh...and might I add just a small criticism to your beautifully constructed avant-garde creation Velasquez.....
...I am sure it is a work in progress....but you have neglected to put the cherry on top of the cake.... ...namely every good KAFFLIK XI needs a manager.....I am sure you were getting round to it....artists cannot be rushed I know..... ...but may I make a suggestion.....as Neil Lennon is currently preoccupied how about Mr Leonardo Da Vinci...... ...yes yes I know he was only a KAFFLIK in name but you have some quite headstrong characters in your selection....and when discussions on tactics and future directions of the project come up he may be able to be the voice of reason........ ...and from the point of marketing your piece may prove a slice of genius!! |
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yor a bit light on creativity in the middle of the park vele ...as usual strugglin to field X1 tims ...
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Team could be in trouble if Picasso pulls a hammy in the warm up... Toulouse-Lautrec is the reserve goalie.
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....saw Agnes Martin mentioned in Times Culture......hadn't heard of her.....
.....love stuff like this....understated.......subtle.......very nice.... http://www.tate.org.uk/search/Agnes%20Martin |
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At the risk of living up to Aka's appraisal
 , Agnes Martin is Sister Wendy's fave artist. |
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Egner - Are you going to the Exhibition at Tate Modern?. Thoroughly recommended?
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It's tempting blackbarn....on till 11 October .........
.....her stuff looks lovely........even better in the flesh I suspect. |
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Definitely Egner, and well worth a visit. Some of it is so subtle, the gold flakes one is.......well I won't spoil it. What was amazing was the sheer number of people and the age range. I have been a fan for a while and thought this'll be limited appeal - What tf do I know!
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.....now you have sold me blackbarn......not that I needed much selling
...I will look forward to it...... .....one time when spending an hour skimming through a Sunday supplement turns into something worthwhile. ...how I had never heard of her before is beyond me. |
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..I will report back when I have been.
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Good stuff egner. You'll enjoy it I'm sure.
This is really rather good, what started as a semi-humorous reactionary diatribe against modern art is turning into something quite different  |
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.....Vubiant's master plan all along I'm sure..... |
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...BBC4 1030 "What do artists do all day?"
..have enjoyed a few of these......especially the photographers and an amazing guy who used a kind of etching process ........... ..this one on artist Derek Boshier.......whose stuff...for me personally.....would be edging toward the "scammery" section.... ..will still watch though...see what its all about. |
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Putting the Dutchman VERMEER in a KAFFLIK XI is artistic scammery of the first order.
Like the Irishman and England Captain Eoin Morgan, he played for both sides. Perhaps he should be substituted at half time for the staunchly KAFFLIK Edgar Degas who once fired a model for being a Protestant. |
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Mo Johnston??!
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Scored a lot of goals but can he paint? |
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He couldn't paint but he could get you a few gallons of Dulux vinyl silk magnolia cheap...plus a nice trackie to wear while you're painting the hall...
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Dulux vinyl silk magnolia eh. Now you're talking!
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Have to say Dulux ain't what it used to be IMO - some of those trade paints in diy stores are far superior...like Glidden. S'ppose you only get what you pay for.
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Did you know there are at least 3 genuine Mona Lisa's out there that have been painted using Dulux vinyl silk?
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Two are owned by Russians and the other is in the Louvre.
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Just googled Derek Boshier - looks like total vom - not my idea of Pop Art at all. The best Pop Art is very clinical and "cold" - reductive - that Derek Boshier stuff is just too personal, witless and eccentric, like English folk art or something.
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I want to know how pop art changed the world so I will watch the programme.
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Can answer NOW
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In Fine Art, you had writers who determined what was good and bad TASTE, like Baudelaire, Berenson, Gombrich, William Morris, Adorno, Greenberg, etc.....
Pop Art short circuited all that and destroyed the barrier between "low" art and "high" art...it was the triumph of the BANAL...by destroying this barrier it also destroyed or reduced the category of the "sublime." So there was no longer...00000...ribbit!!.... |
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But is it Art?
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Well what I mean to say is that MARCEL DUCHAMP is the key artist in Pop Art and Modern Art (NOT Picasso or Van Gogh or whoever)...and with Pop Art there is an invasion of popular art into the "high temples" of art...comics, Elvis, soup tins and OMO boxes, etc...all grist to the feckin' mill.
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What is Art? As Warhol said, Art is only high class junk. Our present art is only reflecting the sh1tty nature of our culture and society as it is...anything goes...if you can get away with it...
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I heard a conspiracy theory that the "Fountain" idea was stolen from a woman
 Now that really is taking the ...mickey. (probably perpetrated by feminists). |
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"...it was the triumph of the BANAL"
well said Velasquez. |
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Michelangelo, Raphael and so on were aiming to express the Eternal Verities and Idealistic Forms, but that is all gone now or actively discouraged. The latest "avant-garde" trend is all that matters now, and charlatans just create stuff that can be traded by billionaires.
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A good definition Velasquez, I shall plagiarise that one day soon.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Painted_Word
By Tom Wolfe...probably the best explanation of modern art. |
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Another thing about Pop Art was that it was a reaction against Abstract Expressionism, which was dominating American art at that time.
Ok, you utter shower  ...I am off to the kitchen now to create a sculpture out of scouring sponges and TUC savoury biscuits...good night...if only you reprobates understood TROO ART!! |