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Who here believes in the death penalty?
Who here believes in the death penalty?
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Vengeance isn't about being happy, it's just exacting some measure of retribution.
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Indeed, it only creates misery and pain.
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There is already misery and pain, the murderer caused that, vengeance doesn't create it in my opinion.
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And these ridiculously short sentences just make matters worse, of course. A friend of mine was murdered by her boyfriend and he receved a sentence of four years, of which he served just two!
It beggars belief that, doesn't it. |
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His defence successfully argued for manslaughter under diminished responsibility.
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Which was a crock of shít, he was just an evil **** who got away with it.
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I'm all for reinstating the death penalty if the crime warrants it. It's fairy easy to implement as well. All you do is change the ruling from 'Guilty beyond all reasonable doubt' to 'Guilty beyond all shadow of doubt' and that's you sorted. If there is no doubt whatsoever of guilt then you get get the death penalty if there is even the merest hint of doubt then you get life.
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Early releases are just an insult to the victims and their families. What kind of a deterrent is this? No wonder there are instances of these bastards looking smug when sentencing is passed. Being hooked up to the national grid instead would soon wipe the grin away. I'm genuinely surprised there aren't a lot more reported instances of vigilante justice. Those that bleat on about Human Rights of offenders should sign some sort of declaration that there is no liability if things go wrong, and then go and spend their holidays sharing a cell with those whose cause they are prepared to champion.
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State sponsored murder - no.
If we want vengeance then its up to us to carry it out and for us to live with the consequences. |
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The need for vengeance due to the frustration of being failed by the leniency of a sentence. Brilliant. Exasperation will lead to a more severe punishment for an understandable act of revenge than what brought it on.
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"Let he who sets out on the path of vengeance, first dig two graves."
Confucious got a lot right in my view and he has a point here, vengeance can only denigrate it's pursuer. However, I believe what we're discussing here is 'justice'. In which case, I'm up it. |
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Justice indeed. The trouble is that old chestnut can come back and royally bite you on the arse. Just ask Tony Martin.
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Cmon HRH, do you seriously trust our justice system with the death penalty? A verdict delivered via corrupt cops,out of touch judges and a jury that will probably be drug-addled, p**s-soaked and posting the case details on facebook anyway? I wouldnt trust them with a parking fine case let alone someones life..
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Another three cases this week fully deserving of the death penalty.
Adebowale, Adebolajo and Bridger. A total waste of time and money keeping these **** in prison for the rest of their worthless lives. And an injustice, too, in my view. |
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The judicial system(not just the bnet coppers)is so wholly corrupt in this country it couldnt possibly support a death sentence,unfortunately.
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have agree with patrick there. don't trust the police an inch. plenty of cases of people fitted up for murder on flimsy or fabricated evidence
also how can any goverment say thou shalt not kill but it's alright for us to kill our own citizens ? life should mean life though unless there are phenomenally good reasons for mitigation. none of this out in 15 years nonsense |
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For those for which there is no doubt, like the machete scumb@g, I could only support the death penalty after a seriously prolonged period of torture.
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it is 48 years, 9 months and 18 days since the last executions in the UK
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no
and I disagree with you there Stow life without parole is a pretty savage punishment and then only for the worse Mark Bridger deserved it |
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imo the punishment should significantly outweigh the worst crimes and be a proper deterrent
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where do you stop Stow
 bring back public hanging, hanging, drawing and quartering what happens if we execute the wrong person... cannot bring them brack I think life without parole is a reasonable deterrent plus it contains an element of retribution which is needed for victim/and or family and for this it would be child killers police killers a serial killer or any murder which involves a significant amount of sadism(torture) I am disagreeing in a friendly way  just my own opinion |
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I am a right know all on here Stow
 The greyhound forum died years ago I am afraid it died with the Stow and I hope BA and Apache don't read my political posts an opinion nothing personal.. I liked their posts and banter with them in the old days |
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William Billingham, another perfect candidate for the death penalty.
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The man who killed his ex wife and his grown up daughter. And it was in cold blood as he knew where they would be.
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An Endless List ,unfortunately our Luvvie Chums would be up in arms .
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the stabbers all over the place certainly believe in death
. Passenger Bunmi Ogunleye wrote: 'We were all terrified! The guy who got stabbed was running until he collapsed. |
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Not terror related , first statement made ....................... must be another mentally ill Islamist
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actually think death is too good for some of these scumbags.
I'd prefer eternal torture - and if they die during torture, make sure its very slow and drawn out. |
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state executions are in my view immoral and in countries where they have the death penalty, like for example the united states or saudi arabia, or china which have more state executions than any other countries put together, it is in some way an indication of a fascist state.
read a very interesting book recently by john grisham called an innocent man (thoroughly recommended) about, strangely enough an innocent man who ended up on death row. in many cases those put on death row had low intelligence and were sentenced on very poor evidence. plus the whole mechanism of the state executing someone is a depressing one. the way everything is carefully arranged to end someone's life. obviously a lot of those who are killed are reprehensible individuals themselves, but in my view the state should not reduce itself to the role of the executioner, because down that path leads to fascism and the reduction of justice. |
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yep i'm all for life meaning life unless there's a very good reason. none of this 15 years nonsense but dunno how any state can in all conscience can say you must not kill then have state sanctioned murder
leaving that aside how could anyone trust the police or justice system to get it right ? numerous instances of fit ups and plainly wrong verdicts |
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a lot of sentencing is limited because of the cost to the state. if you lock every murderer up for the duration of their life it would bankrupt the government in this country.
in America they hand out draconian sentences but presumably have a much bigger relative budget for prisons, and as i said before the US are leaning towards fascism these days anyway. |
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it is in some way an indication of a fascist state.
We had it up until 1965, would you have called the UK a fascist state? I'm sure the answer will be no. If no capital punishment then anyone convicted of a crime that would have seen them executed should never be let free. I'd also like to see the prisons toughened up with only the basics given and anything else needing to be earned through good behaviour. ie you get a bed, 3 meals, exercise and have to earn visiting rights, access to reading matter and access to a recreational area. |
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Mafe there are Certain Cases with DNA and Other evidence No mistake can be Made , Instead of Spending Billions housing these animals ,Get Rid ..
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Chemical castration should very definitely be added to the list of acceptable methods of punishment available for certain crimes.
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Prisoner being escorted across the prison yard to his place of execution. It was snowing heavily and the prisoner nervously said to the prison officer, "nasty day for it."
The prison officer said" it's alright for you, I've got to walk back in this".  |
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We cannot have the death penalty in Britain because we can’t trust the British people to come to the right decision it’s as simple as that
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Murder the murderers???....no no no no no.
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Since hanging was abolished in the mid 60's over 100 people have been murdered by convicted murderers who were let out from prison after serving their sentences.
That's 100+ people who may possibly have lived long and happy lives had their killers been subject to capital punishment for their earlier crime! 100+ truly innocent people sacrificed to make our liberal elite feel better about themselves. |
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That's a horrifying statistic
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