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at what stage will he change the rules,
i advertised my car for 800 euros and got this email
Hi,
Thank you for your reply , Am FRED and I am from the UK. I am glad to know that the vehicle still for sale. The price is ok by me as I am pleased to inform you that I will buy the vehicle from u you. please let me know if payment by a secure certified cashier bank cheque is accepted by you, so as to make the payment , I would need your
First Name: -
Last name (family name):-
Address: -
state (Province) : -
Postcode: -,
cell phone number -
home phone number:-
country:-
and the final price for your vehicle.
So Immediately you get the check, you must go to your bank and pay in the cheque and let the money be in your account. After the release of the money in your account then you will release the vehicle.
I will now instruct my shipping company to come to you and have the vehicle shipped to me.I would also tell you that I have the money for shipping in the cheque that will I send to you so that you can pay they when they come to pick up the vehicle, I hope you clearly understand.
I repeat You will not release the vehicle until the money is credited to your account.
I will await your reply.
Thanks
Now i am in portugal so he wants to collect it after i have the funds in my account via cheque ,i am intreged so i am playing along ,but when will he start asking me to send money
i advertised my car for 800 euros and got this email
Hi,
Thank you for your reply , Am FRED and I am from the UK. I am glad to know that the vehicle still for sale. The price is ok by me as I am pleased to inform you that I will buy the vehicle from u you. please let me know if payment by a secure certified cashier bank cheque is accepted by you, so as to make the payment , I would need your
First Name: -
Last name (family name):-
Address: -
state (Province) : -
Postcode: -,
cell phone number -
home phone number:-
country:-
and the final price for your vehicle.
So Immediately you get the check, you must go to your bank and pay in the cheque and let the money be in your account. After the release of the money in your account then you will release the vehicle.
I will now instruct my shipping company to come to you and have the vehicle shipped to me.I would also tell you that I have the money for shipping in the cheque that will I send to you so that you can pay they when they come to pick up the vehicle, I hope you clearly understand.
I repeat You will not release the vehicle until the money is credited to your account.
I will await your reply.
Thanks
Now i am in portugal so he wants to collect it after i have the funds in my account via cheque ,i am intreged so i am playing along ,but when will he start asking me to send money
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The moment where he'll realise that he has 'accidentally' deposited too much and can you send the difference back via WU. After that the 'cleared' funds will disappear from your account (hopefully having parted you with car, shipping cost and cash for 'change').
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how the hell do people fall for it,
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How does this work then fellas I might give it a go....?
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i will still play along see if cheque arrives ,it must or he cant go to next step.,then i will put it in account that i have only a couple of euros in and wait for it to bounce
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or wait till it says funds are clear and attempt to withdraw the dough?
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Your first mistake was putting up a € asking price. Even I know that they use A$ in WA these days.
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Check out terrytibbs.talktome.org
He's at it as well. |
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aahh History Maker WA been awhile since i have been back
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800 euros must be a proper fanny magnet
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you dont know the second hand car market here in portugal,its a 1992 alfa romeo 33 done 213 k,you would not get 50 quid for it in UK but here 800euros easy,brand new cars here are 30% dearer than UK
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I may drive my 10 year old VW Golf to Portugal. It's worth £2k here and flog it for £3k and have a free holiday
 How that car is worth much more than scrap I will never know, over £700 for a 21 year old pile of junk?!! |
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no good charwell not on portuguese plates there is loads of old uk plated cars running around here illegaly SORN in uk and driven out here very expensive and complicated to matriculate to portuguese plates.
I have a 1987 BEDFORD SETA i paid 1200 euros i year ago i could still get a grand for it now,and i just paid my road tax 46 euros ,and road tax on the alfa is 28 euros, |
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everythings gone green 08 Feb 13 09:14 Joined: 17 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 14,460 | Blogger: everythings gone green's blog
800 euros must be a proper fanny magnet  |
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just going back to Fred the scammer as he asked for my details i asked for his and he has replied,so if anyone can go round and give him a knock i would be thankfull his address allegaly is
Duke McKenzie To Nigel Relsah HELLO, I recieved your email, here are my details Ptroval Global UK Address: 3 Old Church Road, Cardiff, South Glamorgan, CF14 1AE. UK +447410021784 PLEASE SEND MY THE FOLLOWING DETAILS TO TO ENABLE ME ISSUE YOU THE CHEQUE |
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3 Old Church Road
Suppose its slightly better than 3 Lesby Avenue |
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Duke MacKenzie?!£%&*
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he must be freds brother,every time i read his emails i cant help doing it with a Nigerian accent,or am i beign unfair to our african brothers
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I met Duke many years ago.
He was after buying a pub near Bromley in Kent. |
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He's got some seriously gay topiary in his garden.
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and someone should tell him that his porch is bobbins
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It is a scam theres nowhere to park the car its all double yellow lines where he resides.......
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Still could always have a pint at the Plough
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Duke was a good boxer in his day and went on to be a very articulate commentator.
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Why does money appear in your account as cleared funds if it isnt cleared funds and you cant use it?
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I'm glad you asked that question Rob because I was thinking the same think too but was too afraid to ask in case I was just being really ignorant and money that's not cleared can somehow just show up and then disappear.
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If I wanted to know the answer to that question I would ring my bank and ask them. It is not difficult.
I must confess that I don't know, luckily I don't need to. I suspect, though, that it an event that occurs if the deposit is 'unexpectedly' removed from the distant account. |
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thats why i am letting it run its course will stick it in a account where there is no other funds so i will see it clear ,of course it wont but its fun,he cant scam what i aint got
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You could have some fun with his 'shipping company'...which I'm guessing might just be him. Give them a drawing of a car. Or a matchbox car. Or drive them, in the car, to a bank to see if the money's cleared. Do it!
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I heard of a scam like this years ago.
For some reason even though the cheque is cleared in your bank, in some countries it can still be cancelled as they have different rules. Not sure of the countries but I heard of this about 15 years ago |
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Somebody have put warning on an e-bay review about this type of scam.
http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/CHEQUE-SCAMS-PAYMENTS-SAFETY-ADVICE?ugid=10000000000985244 1. FOR SELLERS! - ADVISE CLEARING TAKES 21-28 DAYS THEN POST. THIS IS BECAUSE THE BANK WILL CLEAR THE CHEQUE IN 4 DAYS BUT REVERSE THE PAYMENT AFTER 16 DAYS IF THE CHEQUE BOUNCES . THEREFORE 28 DAYS IS SAFEST CLEARING PERIOD FOR A CHEQUE. IF THE BUYER WANTS TO GO FAST ASK THEM TO SEND CASH SPECIAL REGISTERED POST! - BANK DRAFTS AND CHEQUES ARE ALWAYS FAKES WHEN A SCAM! I DONT TRUST DRAFTS ANYMORE - EVEN THE BANK WONT NOTICE TILL A FEW DAYS LATER THEN YOUR IN TROUBLE - MONEY GETS REVERSED. |
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its going into a portuguese account so on monday going to have a chat ,we still have manages here who talk so will see what he says,i am just curious how far i can take this,just to waste the feckers time,even if the money came tru he cant have the car because of the paper work here he would have to come to the finacis with me to regester it
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I bet they wouldn't reverse the payment if there was no money in the account. I wouldn't trust the advice of someone illiterate.
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sorry clung missed something whos illitrate
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Frankly I'm afraid to say that some people deserve to be scammed by their obvious stupidity.
The one that you are playing with has been around for years and you don't need to be a genius to see that it is dodgy. The other one that has been around for ages is the person selling a car at a ridiculously low price which invariably is £4,000 and that is always for a high end spec model. Read the illiteracy of this C&P from another forum and you will see why he was duped....... stephen croall Join Date: Mar 2010 Languages: NISSIAN NAVARA AUTO TRADER FRAUD SCAM HI TO ALL. I HAVE JUST BEEN INVOLED OF PART OF A SCAM BY A MR JAMES BURT FROM CADIZ IN SPAIN. I LAID OUT A SUM OF £3000 GBP AS A PART DEPOSIT FOR A NISSIAN NARVARA AN I NEVER RECIEVED THE VEHICLE. I DONE ALL THE APR AN HPI CHECKS AN ALL CAME BACK GOOD. IV LOST THE £3000 GBP AS MY BANK OR YAHOO WILL NOT TRACE THE MATTER. POLICE GOT INVOLED TODAY AN WILL HOPEFULLY SORT THIS MATTER OUT. DONT TRUST NO AUTOTRADER ADS WITH AN EMAIL ADDRESS AS IV LEARNT ABOUT IT. IF ANY1 COULD HELP ME OUT ABOUT RECLAIMING MY MONEY BACK IT WOULD BE GREATFULL. REGARDS MR CROALL. What a total idiot, though that is what the scammer is looking for, and there are obviously plenty of suckers! What does seriously gall is that "Autotrader" must know about it as many will have complained. Just like BT, letting people be ripped off with premium rate call costs, they do nothing as all they want is revenue! Here is the link to the forum on the subject..... . http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?p=105078 Somewhere in amongst all that, is a hilarious situation where a "buyer" is winding the scammer up, by sending e-mail after e-mail asking for confirmation that the car has never been used to keep chickens in and loads of other stuff too! |
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I dont agree that some people deserve to be scammed. There should be rules and laws to make sure this stuff doesnt happen. Quite often the victims of those premium rate, youve won a million quid etc scams are old people who grew up in an age where youjust trusted official looking letters etc. quite often the victims are just plain low IQ unquestioning people, doesnt mean they deserve to be scammed, we should protect these people.
( cue loads of "robdylan obviously got scammed lol" etc posts). |
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Yeah rob_dylan, of course you are correct and I was a bit harsh I guess.
Seeing that we all live in the same society, and are vulnerable to all of this nonsense, I have to ask why some MP/s have not taken this on board as it all needs to be stamped out somehow! I am so pi$$ed off with it that I never answer my home phone, where at least 90% of calls are scammers. If it's someone who knows me they all have my mobile number anyway. After the call I always check the number and if it isn't 0800 I Google to see who it is. |
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In my naivety I got kind of scammed in Faro. Queueing up for the flight home, someone offers us 400 euros each to not get the flight, easyjet had overbooked presumably. We were put up in a hotel and given food and that, and got a flight the next day and were told it was just a matter of going online, ticking a few boxes and eight hundred euros were on their way. I wish, was a total scam, were lied to all the way(the details I wont go into) And this was by a massive company. Still infuriates me to this day, and may yet get the money back(minus considerable legal costs) but why should I have to wait two and a half years for money I was promised, just shows that some unscrupulous companies can do what they want and seemingly the law doesnt stop them. This stinks, and since people have said "oh you mug, of course they werent gonna pay you" but how would you know? There are bigger injustices in the world for sure, but amazes me that in the 21st century that people can get away with this in westernised countries. I even emailed the coont who was in charge of easyjet, she used to be top dog at the guardian newspaper group.
Sorry to rant, just seen the observer banging on about tax avoidance companies again, the bloody guardian media group dodged 200million quid of tax themselves ffs. |
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They could have built a 1km road for that
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