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10 Feb 13 10:04 the things people type when they are drunk Irish_Celtic 11 Feb 13 23:37 Stop making an arse of yourself erse. Said one of northenlad's aliases (like cryoftruth) (which we suspected and found to be true at a later date) He wasn't drunk when he typed it, he was completely sober. Which shows what a fruitloop he was. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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"I quickly learned that they wouldn't turn up if was drinking, so I hardly had a drink during that period. Only when I was exhausted & needed a break from the intensity of their demands but that was only on a few occasions."
I understand it all now, he ended up damaged because he was being bummed by 2 aliens. |
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northernlad5......He is your typical Labour voter.....
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i didn't read much of that I used my special x powers to understand it through osmosis.
There are christians out there waiting for the aliens to land. Not because they believe in Aliens but because they think Satan will pretend to be them. They've seen childhoods end which is Arthur C.Clark riffing off them. Satan comes down on a spaceship twisted around as usual to be scientifically plausible. it's a blast - three parter. Hydra's a nice touch - the dragon. Constellation there's two near Virgo. the Draco constellation too. Ptolomy second, talks about it. That guy was such a cheese ball. a third of the angels came with Satan, they don't have wings, brightly lit. will probably pass for ETs - Rapture first though because they cannot operate while God is here. And troubadours he is here until the end of the age. (that's within the next three months) - so no aliens for a while. three months troubadours. Then you can have them improve you and sign up with an oath. Clever Knuts. |
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What about the horsemen? Has anybody mentioned them?
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you've had war since 2001, first horseman
continuing war 2008, second horseman, famine break out - 2015, third pestilence - 2022, fourth seven yrs between each? |
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Zorro the Fourth one will come down at 'Beechers' or the Foinaven, buggering the whole plan up.imvho.
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the plan is immutable
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Nothing in the Universe or any other Universe
is immutable because everything that exists from the One that is all down to the smallest physical particle is in a state of becoming, it never has nor ever will be any other way, man thinking he is something special and has a choice of being the 'chosen one' and concocting references to this in stone age religions, adapted for modern day fools, proves his illusionary ignorance. |
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Cosmological constant (lambda) is 10^122 (ten with 120 zeroes)
10 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1 francis crick first cell - 10^65 10 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1 N, the ratio of the strength of electromagnetism to the strength of gravity for a pair of protons, is approximately 10^36. 10 000000000000000000000000000000000000 to 1 the Hoyle state, the third-lowest energy state of the carbon-12 nucleus, with an energy of 7.656 MeV above the ground level. According to one calculation, if the state's energy were lower than 7.3 or greater than 7.9 MeV, insufficient carbon would exist to support life; furthermore, to explain the universe's abundance of carbon, the Hoyle state must be further tuned to a value between 7.596 and 7.716 MeV. A similar calculation, focusing on the underlying fundamental constants that give rise to various energy levels, concludes that the strong force must be tuned to a precision of at least 0.5%, and the electromagnetic force to a precision of at least 4%, to prevent either carbon production or oxygen production from dropping significantly. What's the odds on Jesus, when there are 5 billion copies of the bible out there? When he was foretold, when Muhammad was not. when he died for us, when Muhammad did not. When the apostles gave their lives to spread his word. When Muhammad forbade the reading of his word. When the bible states God is outside of time. Says the universe was stretched out. Heaven is not in the heavens but outside the universe. It maintains it's integrity. Speaks to men in every century and uses a number structure which is impossible to construct. let alone by men two millenniums ago. Something is actively maintaining the universe. keeping it stable. |
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How much fine tuning would be required to create your god and his heaven?
If he is perfect and the universe isn't then it's bound to be more isn't it? Therefore the existence of a perfect god is less likely than our universe. So why do you need to postulate god? |
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It's a hypothetical question because no one has ever proved that a creator god exists, and as I don't believe such a god exists, I have to work with the creationist zorro's own definition.
He claims that we are born with sin so are imperfect. We are part of the universe so the universe itself must be imperfect. He claims the universe was created by a perfect entity which has infinite powers therefore is greater than it's creation. We have observed that the universe operates according to a number of universal parameters known as the laws of physics. If any of these parameters were significantly different, then the universe would be different. My contention is that the same must apply to the hypothetical god and being more complex would operate within tighter parameters. |
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Perhaps another way of putting it would be,
If something is imperfect there is margin for error in accordance with the degree of imperfection. If something is perfect then there is no margin for error. |
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God is perfect - creation is perfect - God gives us FREEWILL.
Freewill allows us to choose. God has set up a lesson that lasts an inconsequential amount of time to God. After the lesson. Creation will be gone. It'll be God and those that want to be with him. The lesson has been learned. Choose sin and corruption is the consequence. Those that cannot learn the lesson will be quarantined, they have immortal souls. |
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Consistent response, zorro but you haven't answered my question from last night.
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God's Eternal unlike the universe.
Not a created being. Centuries ago men argued whether another continent existed(the americas), Columbus and others argued to get there to find out. Arguing for years. I'd imagine Foinavon That you'd be one of those back then to say there was no such lands. Columbus had read his bible and knew it spoke of another continent. (Fredric March fan) "Throughout his life, Columbus also showed a keen interest in the Bible and in Biblical prophecies, often quoting biblical texts in his letters and logs. For example, part of the argument that he submitted to the Spanish Catholic Monarchs when he sought their support for his proposed expedition to reach the Indies by sailing west was based on his reading of the Second Book of Esdras (Ezra): see 2 Esdras 6:42, which he took to mean that the Earth is made of six parts of land to one of water. Towards the end of his life, he produced a Book of Prophecies in which his career as an explorer is interpreted in the light of Christian eschatology and of apocalypticism."(wiki) |
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does America exist? sitting in England in 1500 Ad - the answer was no.
the question itself would be meaningless? Today it's a certainty. |
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crap - it was 1492? dropped the ball there - read that as 1400 AD.
can i have a pencil eraser sir? |
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God's Eternal unlike the universe.
Not a created being. Claiming to know what you can't possibly know. Perhaps you read it in the bible. |
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so what caused the big Bang?
A lot of physicists are abandoning that theory. You know next to nothing and are proud of it. |
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Physicists don't claim to know what they don't know, that is the domain of religion.
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ty foxy.
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You are looking at this as an ant looks at a human being.
An ant's world is not the world of a human being. and a human's world is not that of GOD. God is not a subject of TIME, having created the universe, he created time also. below are some passages Proving God can move in any direction through time. The Bible gives time a physical property which even Physicists did not know existed till Einstein's generation. Jude 25 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. John 9:32 Since the beginning of time, no one has ever heard of anyone giving sight to a person born blind. Galatians 3:8 Scripture saw ahead of time that God would give his approval to non-Jewish people who have faith. So Scripture announced the Good News to Abraham ahead of time when it said, “Through you all the people of the world will be blessed.” Ephesians 1:11 God also decided ahead of time to choose us through Christ according to his plan, which makes everything work the way he intends. isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 1 PETER 1:18 For as much as you know that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who truly was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, John 8:58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" |