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By:
rob_dylan
When: 13 Mar 13 21:51
That question mark was totally pointless.
By:
Deltâ
When: 16 Mar 13 11:33
whats this w/e's jobs then lads

lettuce started in modules inside here, you...............?
By:
Deltâ
When: 22 Mar 13 10:27
am I the only one sowing any seeds.......


Tomatoes (in conservatory) this w/e

hth
By:
rob_dylan
When: 22 Mar 13 20:24
I want to plant broad beans, lettuce and spring onions this weekend.  Thing is i have hundreds of lettuce and spring onion seeds, so i guess you dont just plant one at a time, can anyone enlighten me on the process?  I mean how deep and how many do i chuck in?  And do i have to pull out the weak ones, and how many etc.  tia.
By:
Petrus Romanus
When: 22 Mar 13 22:57
I have 210 garlic plants that have just recently broken through the soil and are standing around 2 inches tall. Will be planting Pots, Toms, Chillies, Beets, Spaghetti Squash, and more. Have a fair sized Strawberry patch that's a good producer too.
By:
bongo
When: 22 Mar 13 23:15
Imv this site has good advice on the timings for putting veg in the ground
. http://www.rhs.org.uk/Gardening/Grow-Your-Own/Veg-A-to-Z#s
It's a charity so if you like them, consider giving them something - though the way the world is going they'd probably prefer to receive a kilo of seed potatoes rather than two of our pounds, as seed potatoes have real value and can't be printed.

Back on topic, check for types of veg that can be planted in late August / early September and give a crop the following spring - spring onions are good for this, they should not go outside before beginning of May but can be started indoors in a propagator now - the way the weather is now you have to spread your sowing about a bit. There can be some surprisingly warm days in November to January.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 23 Mar 13 00:04
paradise is a heated greenhouse Cool
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 23 Mar 13 01:02
Delta: I grow corno di toro peppers in the greenhouse (unheated - can't see the point when you're already paying to heat your home - simply keep your plants indoors until the war weather arrives).

They're very sweet peppers - delicious raw, but shaped like long chilli peppers, which is a bit inefficient. (The name means "horn of bull".) So each year I save the seeds from the first pepper which appears with a fairly rounded rather than pointed end and use those for the next year. Gradually I'm getting a larger, more bulbous, and earlier, pepper crop each year.

Sewed this year's crop in half a dozen old cream cartons filled with 2/3 John Innes seed compost and 1/3 perlite. I like perlite, as it seems both to absorb excess watering and release it when you forget to water. Covered with a plastic carrier bag and 2 sheets of newspaper on top. Left them near the woodburner, watering daily from a spray bottle.

Now got 11 plants growing uncovered on a south-facing windowsill. Move them back nesr the woodburner at nights, watered twice a day.

Will transfer them to 9" pots in the greenhouse when the days start getting to 15C and frosts disappear from the forecasts.


Tomatoes I've always found less straightforward and more vulnerable to grow from seed. I'm happy to pay a few quid for some healthy looking plants from the garden centre in a couple of months time.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 23 Mar 13 01:44
I grow too many varieties to have them scattered around window ledges
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 23 Mar 13 03:11
Yes. You're right, B-B. I shouldn't have made such a flippant remark.

Sorry.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 23 Mar 13 08:09
Laugh it's ok m8 I wasn't having a dig or anything, mind you it costs a £5 a week in paraffin when the weather is crap so they will end up cheaper to buy.
By:
larry grayson
When: 23 Mar 13 09:52
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By:
larry grayson
When: 23 Mar 13 09:52
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larry grayson
When: 23 Mar 13 09:52
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larry grayson
When: 23 Mar 13 09:52
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By:
larry grayson
When: 23 Mar 13 10:08
Try again.
When you grow your own the one thing you will notice is the dramatic difference in taste from the stuff the supermarkets push out.
You wont save money but when you stop buying produce which is judged by shelf life and appearance and has travelled half way round the world you will remember how good food should taste.
Home grown broad beans are particularly good and also sweetcorn. Soft fruit is also a revelation.
If you grow too many seedlings or plants for your own use give them away on Freecycle.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 23 Mar 13 10:29
Yes. Potatoes are really noticeable. That lovely earthy flavour disappears completely by the time they reach the shops.

The local farmer lost a crop last year when the River Tone burst its banks. I scavenged a few before they turned green and they were a revelation. You just wonder what is done to them between the farmer harvesting them and the supermarket putting them on the shelf.

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Does anyone else grow mustard and cress? You don't even need a garden or allotment for those.

Two flat plastic trays like those used to package pasta parcels. Sprinkle with water. Fold over about 18" of bog paper to line the bottom, scatter the seeds as evenly as possible, then spray with water from a spray bottle. Cover with a carrier bag and a sheet of newspaper and spray twice a day until about half an inch high. Then uncover and place on windowsill, continuing to water.

Ready to harvest in 2 or 3 weeks. If you plant both, sew the mustard 2 or 3 days after the cress, as it grows more quickly.

Very healthy, tasty green vegetables all year round.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 23 Mar 13 11:19
I won't be growing much this year but I am getting involved in the community scheme I mentioned on the first page of this thread.

I'll probably just buy some chilli plants for the window sill even though I don't use them much. I seen an over wintered chilli plant in a friends house and it's producing already, think I'll try that for next year.

I would recommend people to grow plants that are either expensive or rare to find in the shops. I can say again about Khol Rabi, very easy and quick to grow but I also grew some pepper plants in upside down planters last yer that were very productive. Considering peppers are 50p each in Tesco's, each of my plants produced 10+ peppers. Try varieties like purple cauliflower (I'll have to try this myself) or a rarer potato variety.

Look out for Lidl this time of year. They have some great, cheap vegetable plants in trays. I bought a brilliant Tumbling Tom Tomato hanging basket with 5 plants that gave me all the tomatoes I needed for last year. They also have 8 cauliflower/ cabbage plants etc for £2 which is pretty good but remember 8 plants all at the same time will harvest at the same time so if you can find a mate or 3 to split between you t makes more sense.

Can anyone upload any pics?

I will when I start growing.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Mar 13 11:46
I would upload pics if i knew how. 

I shall be growing pink fur spuds, they are a pound a pound at the farmers market, mind you they are the best spuds going imo.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 23 Mar 13 12:45
I never have any wastage as my chickens scoff it all
By:
Deltâ
When: 23 Mar 13 12:56
screaming' cress seed [proper] is getting very expensive compared with a few years back, so given up on it - and actually most cress including supermarket sold ones is in the main not even cress - its 80% oil seed rape seed!
By:
Ovalman.
When: 23 Mar 13 15:57
Curly Kale is really handy if you're stuck for space, just pick from it when you need it. It lasts for ages and much better than growing a cabbage which uses the same amount of space. Beetroot is also very underrated, I've still some pickled in jars from when I rented my private allotment 2 years ago.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 23 Mar 13 16:36
Delta: Last year Poundstretcher in Taunton were selling packets of Carter's seeds, 2 for a quid. Each packet of curled cress contained 12,200 seeds according to the smallprint. There were a dozen or so packets on display, so I bought the lot.

I haven't got round to counting the contents of any of the packets yet, but they definitely contain many more seeds than the usual rip-offs. Whether or not I'm growing genuine cress or some rape ersatz version I have no idea, but I'm happy with the results.
By:
Deltâ
When: 23 Mar 13 16:46
well you got yaself a bargain there screamin'  - I know when I went to get some, price had remained the same, but quantity was about 25% of previous size..
By:
Deltâ
When: 23 Mar 13 17:24
sowing seeds in the sow isnt recommended imho
By:
Deltâ
When: 23 Mar 13 17:24
* sowing seeds in the snow isnt recommended imho
By:
rob_dylan
When: 28 Mar 13 16:37
Tomorrow, come hell or highwagpter or crippling hangover, lettuce, early toms, spinach, spring onions and broad beans are going in.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 28 Mar 13 16:39
Ffs that should be highwater and early pots.  Defo a crippling hangover in the post. 

Chives, parsley and coriander slowly coming up on the window sill.
By:
Deltâ
When: 28 Mar 13 18:36
radish, rocket and spinach here
By:
bongo
When: 28 Mar 13 22:44
Something I don't really understand about allotments is the need for high security fencing - ok if you're raising chickens or keeping goats which could get into someone else's patch, but why the need for vegetables to be protected. They're like medium security prisons. With a Union flag flying. As if that'll make the spuds grown any faster.
Commercial arable farmers don't operate with the high fence protection, padlocks, warning signs etc of some allotments.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 28 Mar 13 22:50
Too cold to do anything yet where I am. Might do some prep work over the weekend...clean out the greenhouse ready for the tomatoes etc, cut back the apple trees, and fruit bushes maybe. Move stuff out of my open air compost heap into the green plastic bin to help it along.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 29 Mar 13 12:58
Well i ut loads in this morning.... Lettuce, broad beans, artichokes, beetroot, spring onions, leeks and spinach.   Roll on the good weather.
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 29 Mar 13 14:03
I did the Apple and Plum trees before the snow came a few weeks ago. Took all last years verticals off and any branches that were crossed or looking worse for wear. The compost heap went into the veg beds at the same time.

My heated propagator has packed in Sad so this year will be the first that i don't grow my Tomatos from seed. I might be able to cadge a few plants later on Happy

I have got a few mixed cut n come again lettuce showing from seed in the polytunnel.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 29 Mar 13 14:10
Im hoping to get fresh lettuce all year round.  I might have a go at those mixed greens you can buy, you just chop off what you need with scissors and they grow back.
By:
bigmo
When: 29 Mar 13 14:20
I've got tomato seeds on the window sill that have started and may try spuds in bags again this year but not sure yet as last year was a disaster.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 29 Mar 13 14:47
Something I don't really understand about allotments is the need for high security fencing

quite a bit of robbing goes on now Bongo because of the high price of veg, also many of these gardeners will be growing exhibition stuff which will earn them a few £ at shows.
By:
bongo
When: 29 Mar 13 17:59
Hi Burtons, I'm growing in an unprotected plot for the first time, about 10 feet from the road, not even a low wall. Will give a crime update later in the year and see how your theory about robbing veg works out.
That heated greenhouse of yours is desirable - I can see the need for protecting that behind a decent fence.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 30 Mar 13 14:35
I've been sitting in there this morning Bongo a lovely combined smell of tomato plants and paraffin.
By:
bongo
When: 31 Mar 13 11:48
I've been looking at google trends recently:
.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=allotments&geo=GB&cmpt=q

It looks like there was a spike in interest in allotments/gardening/growing vegetables in UK in mid-2008 ( recession presumably ) than it's tailed off.
Get digging and sowing!
By:
Deltâ
When: 07 Apr 13 15:10
beetroot in this w/e
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