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By:
everythings gone green
When: 13 Dec 12 14:25
Sweetcorn is not a vegetable, it's grain.

It contains around 20% carbs and the rest is mainly water!
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 14:26
Unless he is going to eat 5 cans of the stuff everyday... it will be just fine.
By:
everythings gone green
When: 13 Dec 12 14:28
1 can will give you 40g of carbs!

Don't eat sweetcorn if you are on a carb restricted diet.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 14:30
You would have to go some to eat a whole can

I usually sprinkle third of can in a mixed salad.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 14:31
ditch the sweetcorn

its a pointless food imo

bit like porridge,  no real nutritional value whatsoever.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 14:32
Love the texture of it in salad... with red onion, tomatoes and some baby spinach.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 13 Dec 12 14:49
Barzalona's diet may help you lose weight but it's not healthy.  Big difference.  He's basically describing the early version of the Atkins diet.  Frying stuff in butter!!!  Good God.
By:
OldGold
When: 13 Dec 12 15:04
Not any old butter, but ghee!  High in saturated fats.  Surely a diet like that is full of cholesterol and therefore unhealthy.
By:
OldGold
When: 13 Dec 12 15:07
Apologies, someone else mentioned ghee.
By:
johnn
When: 13 Dec 12 15:14
Lost 70lbs since Boxing Day this year Happy
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 13 Dec 12 15:16
Brilliant,especially considering Boxing Day hasnt even arrived as yet.But well done anyway.
By:
OldGold
When: 13 Dec 12 15:16
Well done johnn, are you from the future?Shocked
By:
johnn
When: 13 Dec 12 15:17
This year = 2012.
Boxing Day this year = Boxing Day last year.
Er....Laugh
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 16:06
T Peck - it's a very healthy diet, you get a little of everything the body needs.. you are aware that some fat is required for the body to function correctly?
By:
Cubanpete
When: 13 Dec 12 16:11
Templeton Peck 13 Dec 12 12:09 
Wake up and drink a lot of room temperature water immediately.  Drink quite a bit.


Two hours later, have breakfast:

Breakfast: 3 tablespoons oatbran (oatbran, not whole oats.  Try Mornflake) boil in saucepan with a mug of water, when boiling add a tablespoon of flaxmeal and a sprinkle of cinnamon.  Add 1/4 mug of water mixed with a half-scoop of vanilla protein powder.  Stir well and when bubbling again chuck in 3/4 of a chopped apple; handful of crushed walnuts and a handful of sultanas.  Mix in and add a dash of zero calorie maple syrup (Walden Farms pancake syrup).  Pour into a bowl and top with a chopped banana.  Have with a half glass of apple juice.  Mug of green tea would be better but pressed apple juice is fine, just not too much.  This breakfast is delicious.


Drink water.  Plenty of water.  You know you're getting enough when you need a piss every 30 mins.

Lunch: Tuna/Salmon/Chicken/Turkey salad.  Minimal dressing.  Drink some green tea.  Soup with a Food Doctor pitta break also ok.

Afternoon snack: flan/custard: Crack 5 eggs into a bowl and whisk. Heat 375ml of milk with a vanilla pod scraped out into it.  Include the pod.  Don't let it boil.  When warm pout into the bowl.  Add a teaspoon of nutmeg, 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon, 1.25 teaspoon vanilla essence, 1/5 cup sugar substitute (I use Total Sweet).  Whisk and pour into four separate ramekins. Sprinkle some cinnamon on top. Place ramekins in an oven tray and fill tray with boiling water up to 3/4 of ramekin.  Put in a pre-heated oven at 155 degrees (if fan-assisted) for 35 mins.  This obviously makes 4.  Leave to cool and put in fridge.  Can have one a day.  Have with mug of green tea.

Dinner: baked fish and sauteed spinach.  Put some white fish on some foil, sprinkle a tiny amount of salt (salt is really bad when trying to lose weight as soaks up water) and pepper, a drizzle of fresh lemon juice and drizzle of olive oil.  Place some sliced ginger on top with some thyme.  Wrap up in the foil and put in a 200 degree fan-assisted foil for 18 mins.  Dice some ginger and garlic.  Slice some shallots.  Rub a tiny amount of olive oil on a frying pan, heat and add the chopped stuff.  Then add 3 large handfuls of spinach and sautee until wilted.  That's dinner.  Have with cup of green tea or apple juice if need something sweet.  Dessert: fat free yoghurt, preferable vanilla otherwise something with no added sugar/fructose, raspberry better than most.

Make sure you're still drinking lots of water.

Weigh yourself when you wake up first thing every morning.

Can't believe I typed this out.  I lose about 1 lb per day with this and don't really need any exercise, although it obviously helps.  Drinking copious amounts of water is really important.



By the time I'd f@nnied around making and eating that breakfast it would be time to go back to bed again.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 16:14
Scramble some eggs, bit of smoked salmon... job done.
By:
GPT
When: 13 Dec 12 16:25
How does drinking so much water you need a p1ss every 30mins help you lose weight then?
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 17:02
Water helps keep you full, so you don't get hungry.. and is absolutely vital to the metabolic process... you will not set your metabolic furness firing if you are dehydrated.
By:
GPT
When: 13 Dec 12 17:06
Cobblers.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 17:09
if you say so.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 13 Dec 12 17:33
Barzalona, yes, I'm aware fat plays a part in a healthy diet, but going to McDonalds and omitting just the bun and fries is not healthy.

GPT, Barzalona is correct re the water.  Try it and see what happens.  P1ssing every 30 minutes was an exaggeration, but try drinking around 3 litres of water throughout the day and see what happens.

Cubanpete, I can trade on here whilst making that breakfast.  Easier/quicker than it sounds (especially once you've made it a few times) and delicious.  Excellent source of complex carbohydrates, fibre, various vitamins/minerals, protein, etc and tastes great.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 17:45
TP - I take your point, but I did say "go to MCd's as a treat... and just eat the burger and cheese"  this is far from unhealthy if done once a week as a treat.  Most low carb lifestyles require a day every 7-10 days where you increase calories massively, as discussed by somebody above eating just low carb it's night on impossible to go over the daily calorie levels as the most calorie laden foods in our diet are carbs... but if you continue to exist on a calorie deficit your body begins to shut down and slow down its metabolic rate... so a weekly push up is a good thing.. and the McD's was just in line with that.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 13 Dec 12 18:05
Yep, fair enough with your McDonalds example, nothing wrong with a treat every now and then. 

I'm just not a fan of diets that concentrate on weight loss at the cost of health.  I think high protein/low carb with next to no concern about fat content is not a great way to healthily lose weight.  You'll get more than enough (healthy) fat from fish and nuts.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 20:19
this thread makes me genuinely sad.

we just aren't aware of the fact that FAT is good, SUGAR is bad.

Nothing wrong with ghee at all, although coconut oil is much better for you.

i eat about 60% FAT every day and I have never been in better shape.

My typical day:

Breakfast - Coffee with coconut milk and a bit of coconut oil or ghee.

Lunch - Big ass Salad -  e.g. with Prawns/avocados/eggs or chicken/bacon/anchovies.

Tea - Meat (usually cooked in coconut oil/ghee) and vegetables (loads of them).  I will generally only have potatoes or rice after a workout.

The fattier the meat the better, forget chicken breasts - no real nutritional value, its too lean. 

Lost 3 and a half stone and nearly 6 inches on my waist since i started eating this way in little over a year.

i will also chuck in a 24 hr fast once or twice a week.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 20:23
Love a drop of choch coconut milk in my coffee on the weekend.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 20:25
d13phe -  on fast days... what are you consuming?
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 20:26
i fast dinner (6/7pm) to dinner the next day

i just have black tea and water when i fast.

usually train right at the end of my fast as well.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 20:28
ok so basically nothing in terms of calories?  maybe 200 or so
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 20:29
yes over 24 hours but i am having a decent meal at the end of my fast.
By:
GPT
When: 13 Dec 12 20:44
"Metabolic furness"Laugh
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 21:02
Blimey, nearly 4 hours for that one to hit home.

Shrewdie Cool
By:
OldGold
When: 13 Dec 12 21:03
d13phe, you are making one big mistake - fat (especially ghee, very high in saturated fat) raises cholestorol in the blood.  This is of course incredibly bad for the circulatory system.  You may lose weight and feel good, but you wont be thinking about that when you've had a heart attack.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 21:08
absolutely nothing wrong with saturated fat and the whole connection with saturated fat and cholestrol is Government nonsense

you need to broaden your horizons.

"This brings us to that evil substance, saturated fat. Or, at least that’s what we’re supposed to think of it. Saturated fat can, in fact, raise LDL levels, but it raises the good LDL we talked about before, which doesn’t increase the incidence of heart disease. In fact, a paper by Siri-Tarino et al., published in 2010 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, reviewed 21 studies, including 347,747 subjects, and concluded, “There is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD [heart disease].” But before scientists, even scientists who endorsed the Paleolithic diet were aware of the distinction between the different kinds of LDL, they demonized saturated fat, including plant sources like coconut oil and palm oil.

Coconut oil or palm oil is actually a great source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs), a type of saturated fat that can be used very quickly as energy in the body. In many studies, MCTs have been shown to help people lose weight. One of the fatty acids in coconut oil, lauric acid, is a powerful antiviral and can also increase HDL, the “good” cholesterol in your body. So much for coconut oil’s bad reputation!"
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 21:11
http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/its-not-about-lowering-cholesterol/#more-3901
By:
OldGold
When: 13 Dec 12 21:14
There will be many more studies which come to the opposite conclusion.  If you think a diet containing 60% fat is good for you, then that's your choice, but it sounds like madness.  I hope you don't regret it.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 21:18
I will be fine.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 16 Dec 12 15:30
d13phe, just because some quacks say saturated fat is good for you doesn't mean it is.  I could so what you've done and quote a review of 48 studies:

A 2011 systematic review from The Cochrane Library analyzed 48 studies conducted between 1965 and 2009 and included 65,508 participants. All studies reduced or modified participants’ dietary fat or cholesterol for at least six months by at least 30 percent. It was found that reducing saturated fat by reducing and/or modifying dietary fat reduced the risk of having a cardiovascular event, such as heart attack, stroke and unplanned heart surgery, by 14 percent. Of the 65,508 participants, 7 percent had a cardiovascular event.

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However you look at it, there are many areas of nutrition which are contentious.  I'd advise everyone to be sensible and consider the potential negative effects of your insides, not just how much blubber you lose.  Many people say excess saturated fat can lead to heart disease, some people don't.  In my view, it's incredibly naive to assume the minority are correct and so ignore the majority.  To me, it sounds like people want this to be the case - like I'd love to find a scientist say pastries are really healthy - and so cling to it.
By:
ND47
When: 16 Dec 12 18:21
I've mentioned this on a chit chat thread before, but if you ever want to learn about how dodgy a lot of the scientific studies on nutrion are particularly those done on the subject of cholesterol, diabetes, the effects of saturated fat and other things, then have a read of the Diet Delusion by Gary Taubes.

I'd personally be careful with how much you attention you pay to scientific studies, they can be manipulated very easily, often just so that a scientist can prove himself "right" and keep the research $$$ coming

Ansell Keyes was particularly dodgy, he managed to villify Saturated fat with his seven countries study which he used to show the link between saturated fat and heart disease... The problem with his study was that he used 20+ countries and discarded the data from the ones that didn't match his theory of Saturated fat causing heart disease. The Diet Delusion is full of examples like that. If you think fat is bad for you but can at least be open minded give that book a read and see wht you think of the way scientists came to the "saturated fat / chioleserol is bad" conclusion.
By:
Barzalona
When: 16 Dec 12 18:53
great post
By:
ND47
When: 16 Dec 12 19:52
Gary Taubes has a fair ammount of stuff on YouTube too. Presentations, interviews etc etc.

This one is good -  Why We Get Fat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTUspjZG-wc

Lasts about an hour and ten.
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