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deansthemann
12 Dec 12 19:18
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Breakfast  1 apple

Lunch      1 jacket potato

Dinner  1 bowl of special k cereal

no snacks in between and water as the only drink

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By:
Howdi
When: 12 Dec 12 19:19
yes but you'll be bored to death
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 19:56
Horrible diet... if you want to lose weight quick cut all carbs out and just eat protein for 10 days.

Breakfast: eggs of some descript... scrambled / boiled / even fried with a strip of bacon

Lunch: Chicken / Turkey meat, with salad or veg of your choice

Dinner:  same as lunch

snack - get some chocolate protein powder (myprotein.com)and mix that with some milk for a treat.

easy
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 12 Dec 12 20:01
no ,because it wont last and you'll be hungry and crack up
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 20:03
the high protein no carb works well as it controls blood sugar.. therefore limiting cravings.

blood sugar control is the absolute cornerstone of successful weight loss.
By:
The Magic Flea
When: 12 Dec 12 20:09
do some excercise and to cut the cravings have some sweet tea, or start smoking
By:
ND47
When: 12 Dec 12 20:52
You'd lose weight if you were able to stick with it, but it would f*** you over completeley. You'd have next to no energy and due to lack of protein your body would start to cannabilise muscle (not good), add to that the lack of vitamins and minerals and your body would be a train wreck

I'd follow Barzalona's advice... Low carb / high protein is the way ahead.

If you read get yourself a copy of the Diet Delusion by Gary Taubes, it's long but it's a brilliant read.
By:
deansthemann
When: 12 Dec 12 22:29
cheers barzalona will try that... ruined me already today and had to have some toast just now lol
By:
Emden
When: 12 Dec 12 22:32
look at the fasting thread on this forum  - all you need to know about losing weight.
By:
deansthemann
When: 12 Dec 12 22:37
would you be so kind to bring the thread to the top plz Emden i just looked down and could not see it.
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 23:02
I would leave the fasting until the new year... the diet i listed will 100% work, you wont get bored, you wont get hungry and you will be happy IF you simply stick to it.

You can fry your veg in butter if you want... fat is not what makes you put on fat.. its sugar.

Carbs, like bread, pasta, rice, biscuits, sweets... breakdown quickly into sugar by the body...this causes the release of insulin.. and insulin is the EVIL.. as this makes you store fat.. if you have no insulin in the blood.. you simply cannot store fat into cells.

Eat all the meat, salad, veg you want... have a nice juicy steak one evening with fried onions... but no chips or bread.

It works.
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 23:05
Also, the release of insulin is what causes craving of junk food as the insulin spikes into your blood and the drops off fast, this drop triggers the body to crave more food that causes the spike again... bread, sweets, pasta etc

If you want a treat at the weekend... go maccies, but just take the bun off the cheeseburger and eat the meat and cheese... obviously no fries.

Its as simple as that... meat, veg, salad, eggs.
By:
onlooker
When: 12 Dec 12 23:33
Barza - Are Potatoes a 'no-no', then? ... NOT included as veg, even boiled.
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 23:36
Potatoes a big no no... that is why boiling them or baking them as jackets are a massive NO

Sweet potatoes a yes.
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 23:39
I will tell you this aswell.. if you follow what I have put up, and you do it for just 3 or 4 days... you will notice a massive difference just in that space of time to keep you going for longer.

You will feel the difference that quickly.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 23:41
Bearing in mind everybody Barzalona is a self proclaimed snorter of cocaine.

He is a real health freak.
By:
deansthemann
When: 12 Dec 12 23:49
Barazalona - is sweetcorn and weight watchers chicken soup ok to have incorparated with what you have advised as well or not?
By:
Barzalona
When: 12 Dec 12 23:51
The key nutrional number to keep an eye on is the grams of carbohydrates you intake daily.

Less than 30g is optimal.

So have a look on the can of soup... sweetcorn is fine.
By:
deansthemann
When: 12 Dec 12 23:52
thankyou
By:
deansthemann
When: 13 Dec 12 00:19
final question barzalona - fresh fish is ok too like mackerel huh?
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 00:27
Fish is very very good. 

Especially Salmon and Tuna.
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 13 Dec 12 01:06
Dean has not actually said he is overweight yet,all you budding Marjorie Dawes might be sending him to Karen Carpenter land
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 13 Dec 12 01:11
Breakfast-A nice hand shandy with scrambled egg on lightly buttered wholemeal toast
Lunch-A goats cheese tartlet with lashings of salad
Dinner/Tea-Cup of Horlicks followed by a dirty great steaming turd.

My work here is done
By:
therhino
When: 13 Dec 12 08:53
Is the Betfair forum really the place to go for nutritional infomation Confused
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 10:55
"lose weight quickly" and "diet" never end well imo

the stats dont lie
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 10:57
More of a lifestyle change than a diet if you incorporate low carb high protein into your food intake.
By:
Get On MASSIVE
When: 13 Dec 12 10:58
You can fry your veg in butter if you want... fat is not what makes you put on fat.. its sugar.
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That's wrong, the only thing that makes you fat is excess calories. You could just eat simple sugars and fat and lose weight if it was under your calorie maintenance. It wouldn't be healthy and would cause a lot of other problems but you would lose weight.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 11:03
losing weight is a piece of p1ss once you stop listening to the modern world's take on it.

the diet and food industry all have vested interests.

Eat less - fasting works and has worked for thousands of years.
stop eating snacks - we are not built to snack.
Eat fat, not sugar - look up what is called Paleo and you will find the reasoning there.
Lift Weights, move slow and sprint every now and then

enjoy.

This worked for me and have recommended it to a few people and they have also seen dramatic results. 

i agree with starting with low carb, which obviously will kick start ketosis and pretty fast fat loss.  Just be careful if you have underlying health issues.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 11:06
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You can fry your veg in butter if you want... fat is not what makes you put on fat.. its sugar.
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That's wrong, the only thing that makes you fat is excess calories. You could just eat simple sugars and fat and lose weight if it was under your calorie maintenance. It wouldn't be healthy and would cause a lot of other problems but you would lose weight.

absolute nonsense i am afraid.  I fry nearly everything in ghee or coconut oil and I have never been slimmer and healthier.  I just avoid all the rubbish oils like sunflower, vegetable etc.  and my ghee is pure.

A fried breakfast in coconut oil (without bread) cooked in coconut oil would be better for you in the long run than the cereal people eat every day.
By:
Get On MASSIVE
When: 13 Dec 12 11:15
That's a terrible diet deansthemann, absolutely awful. You would lose weight on it and plenty of muscle as well but you won't keep it up and anything you do lose will eventually come back as you will inevitably crack at some point.

The best way to lose weight is not to starve yourself but change your life time eating habits. If you don't eat enough your body will stubbornly hang on to the fat as it goes into starvation mode. The body isn't interested in looking good it wants to survive and by depriving it of food it will hang on to every bit of it's fat reserves for as long as possible.

If you want to lose weight you need to eat healthy. Cut out the alcohol and simple sugars.

I've currently trying to lose a bit of fat myself and I'm eating virtually all day.

I have a bowl of porridge with semi skimmed milk and for the rest of the day I eat home made soup. My soup contains 2 lbs of turkey, carrots, onions, broccoli, sweet potato, kale, cauliflower, tomatoes with a stock cube and a bit of salt and pepper. I get my fair share of protein with the turkey and the veg is low in calories.

I'm eating this all day so my metabolism speeds up with the intake of food but there isn't that many calories to burn.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 11:15
I was introduced to the whole carbo case a while ago... I was put on a simple test to prove it.

I was asked to change my daily breakfast of a coffee with 2 sugars and milk with a bowl of cereal, a heathly one like all bran or shredded wheat to eggs cooked however I wanted, fried in lard if you want and a choice of smoked salmon or bacon... and a black coffee.

Just that one change and no extra exercise (play 5 a side often) and I lost 5lbs in 3 weeks... and I was not overweight to begin with in the slightest... that loss was all fat.
By:
Get On MASSIVE
When: 13 Dec 12 11:21
d13phe, if your going to pull me up on something make sure you're right.

You're wrong, excess calories make you fat, nothing else.

Cooking with fat is fine but if you eat excess calories you will put on weight. If you eat under your maintenance then you will lose weight. That's the be all and end all of it.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 11:23
There is evidence to suggest that going over your daily level of calories (2500 for a man?) but only via protein with no carbs inducing insulin production results in no fat gain... as fat cannot be stored in the cells without the presence of insulin.

Obviously your weight would stay static and to actually lose you would need a daily deficit.
By:
d13phe
When: 13 Dec 12 11:48
there is a huge argument at the moment concerning calories.  Some experts think they mean nothing and it is the macros that count (i.e. fat/prot/carb) and some think they do.

Whatever the argument it is nigh on impossible to eat nearly 2,500 calories when you eat things with fat/butter and little carbs.  You are full for hours so the argument is a bit redundant really.

Also, eating small meals through the day to speed up your metabolism is a myth that has now been proven to be wrong. 

by the way, you need to read up on what actually happens when you put weight on.  It not excess fat.  It's excess sugar that the liver cannot process http://www.obesity-info.com/2012/04/sugar-make-you-fat.html
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 11:59
At this point it should be noted that the trillion dollar worldwide fast food industry thrives on serving up the worst carbohydrates.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 13 Dec 12 12:09
Wake up and drink a lot of room temperature water immediately.  Drink quite a bit.

Two hours later, have breakfast:

Breakfast: 3 tablespoons oatbran (oatbran, not whole oats.  Try Mornflake) boil in saucepan with a mug of water, when boiling add a tablespoon of flaxmeal and a sprinkle of cinnamon.  Add 1/4 mug of water mixed with a half-scoop of vanilla protein powder.  Stir well and when bubbling again chuck in 3/4 of a chopped apple; handful of crushed walnuts and a handful of sultanas.  Mix in and add a dash of zero calorie maple syrup (Walden Farms pancake syrup).  Pour into a bowl and top with a chopped banana.  Have with a half glass of apple juice.  Mug of green tea would be better but pressed apple juice is fine, just not too much.  This breakfast is delicious.

Drink water.  Plenty of water.  You know you're getting enough when you need a piss every 30 mins.

Lunch: Tuna/Salmon/Chicken/Turkey salad.  Minimal dressing.  Drink some green tea.  Soup with a Food Doctor pitta break also ok.

Afternoon snack: flan/custard: Crack 5 eggs into a bowl and whisk. Heat 375ml of milk with a vanilla pod scraped out into it.  Include the pod.  Don't let it boil.  When warm pout into the bowl.  Add a teaspoon of nutmeg, 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon, 1.25 teaspoon vanilla essence, 1/5 cup sugar substitute (I use Total Sweet).  Whisk and pour into four separate ramekins. Sprinkle some cinnamon on top. Place ramekins in an oven tray and fill tray with boiling water up to 3/4 of ramekin.  Put in a pre-heated oven at 155 degrees (if fan-assisted) for 35 mins.  This obviously makes 4.  Leave to cool and put in fridge.  Can have one a day.  Have with mug of green tea.

Dinner: baked fish and sauteed spinach.  Put some white fish on some foil, sprinkle a tiny amount of salt (salt is really bad when trying to lose weight as soaks up water) and pepper, a drizzle of fresh lemon juice and drizzle of olive oil.  Place some sliced ginger on top with some thyme.  Wrap up in the foil and put in a 200 degree fan-assisted foil for 18 mins.  Dice some ginger and garlic.  Slice some shallots.  Rub a tiny amount of olive oil on a frying pan, heat and add the chopped stuff.  Then add 3 large handfuls of spinach and sautee until wilted.  That's dinner.  Have with cup of green tea or apple juice if need something sweet.  Dessert: fat free yoghurt, preferable vanilla otherwise something with no added sugar/fructose, raspberry better than most.

Make sure you're still drinking lots of water.

Weigh yourself when you wake up first thing every morning.

Can't believe I typed this out.  I lose about 1 lb per day with this and don't really need any exercise, although it obviously helps.  Drinking copious amounts of water is really important.
By:
PETETHEPANDA
When: 13 Dec 12 12:37
Eat a big bit of chocolate cake. I guarentee you won't have a craving for anything sugary sweet for the rest of the day
By:
PETETHEPANDA
When: 13 Dec 12 12:37
Oh by the way I'd rather drink my own pi** then drink green tea, its nasty
By:
OldGold
When: 13 Dec 12 13:56
I've seen someone drink a cup of their own píss, I guarantee you wouldn't.

Green tea is okay, but horrible if brewed for too long which is easily done.
By:
Barzalona
When: 13 Dec 12 14:26
The green tea con is just that.  The effects on metabolism are completely negligble unless you have 50 cups a day, every day.
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