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666_v When: 03 Oct 12 00:45

It is one yes

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 00:45

Letting them pass security in order to plant the explosives would be yep

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Tommy Toes When: 03 Oct 12 00:46

I haven't read all through this thread but Tobermory's comment the other day was a peach:

tobermory 01 Oct 12 23:42

"I certainly don't think Bush was involved if there was a conspiracy

Imagine trying to explain all that to him"

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Ampleforth When: 03 Oct 12 00:47

They let it happen,

wtf does that mean. I wish you would just spit it out and stop playing games. But as you obvioulsy want me to guess, are you now suggesting that terrosits carried it out and The secret service/society chose to ignore it. I am not sure even Bin Laden had acces to cruise missiles.

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 00:47

On the contrary if your perception of what's possible is so wide then you begin to lose sight of reality

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666_v When: 03 Oct 12 00:49

Which part did Iraq play in all this? Sadam didn't have weapons of mass destruction yet they went after him.

Yet Mugabe is just left to it

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genelec When: 03 Oct 12 00:49

I agree with that too

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genelec When: 03 Oct 12 00:50

That was for Don ^

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Ampleforth When: 03 Oct 12 00:58

its not really about whats possible, its about whats likely,
It is possible I will win the lottery, thats why I buy a ticket... but I dont really believe it is going to be me no matter how many times the adverts tell me that it could be. Perhaps you do, I wish you luck.

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666_v When: 03 Oct 12 01:00

How would you know what was likely unless you were in the know?

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 01:04

Crikey is Ampleforth ok.

Seems to be talking about the lottery.

Goodnight folks.

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genelec When: 03 Oct 12 01:06

You can calculate the odds of winning the lottery. You can't calculate the odds on how some psychopaths and their followers would be able to effect mass manipulation of public perception. But it doesn't make it impossible just improbable as far as personal perceptions translate. After all there are lottery winners every week, it's just not probable that it'll be me you or any other betfair forumite.

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Ampleforth When: 03 Oct 12 01:06

brilliant....

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 01:07

'How would you know what was likely unless you were in the know?'

Are you in the know?

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666_v When: 03 Oct 12 01:08

Obviously not

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 01:09

You can calculate the odds of winning the lottery. You can't calculate the odds on how some psychopaths and their followers would be able to effect mass manipulation of public perception.

You think you can calculate the odds of winning the lottery but by your argument you can't because it could be run by some psychopaths who rig it but mass manipulate the public

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genelec When: 03 Oct 12 01:11

Now you're making it up. Post where I've said the national lottery is run by pyschopaths?

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 01:11

Precisely so how can you come to the conclusion such a plot would have been even remotely possible.

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666_v When: 03 Oct 12 01:12

So you're saying it's impossible?

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 01:13

You didn't, I claimed it could be, you've assumed it isn't given the your belief you can calculate the odds

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SqueezeFirmly When: 03 Oct 12 01:13

Well, here we are, 290 posts later. Has anybody who thinks the U.S. Govt were involved changed their mind yet? Has anybody who thinks the U.S. Govt weren't involved changed their mind yet? You do realise that when this thread reaches 500 posts it must be copied on to the politics forum, they're good at not changing their minds as well. (Not that I've ever seen anybody change their mind in all my years on the internet)

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 01:15

Not impossible, virtually so and infinitely less probable than the events transforming just as they did that day

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genelec When: 03 Oct 12 01:15

Sorry Don I'm not able to follow your argument now, what odds?

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DonNo1 When: 03 Oct 12 01:16

Check the football forum Squeeze, most people on there change their mind after the result is known

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Pokermonster When: 03 Oct 12 01:18

Good morning SF. I hope you are well.

Are you the SF I have chatted with in the past, sir? If so, I changed a few forumites' minds on the cueball thread. Probably my finest hour on here!

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 01:32

What was you cueball thread Pokermonster.

I was a master cueman in my day.

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SqueezeFirmly When: 03 Oct 12 01:36

Good morning PM, alas, I'm not the SF you spoke to before, sir, but I can see where you think I may be. I did read some of that thread about snooker balls, and applying spin, but it was all lost on me as I have never played it long enough to make it interesting, just a few frames in the long distant past, where I was beaten every time. As my drinking and playing partner used to say to those who were watching 'He's using the well known Double H method, sometimes it works.' and when asked what 'Double H' meant, he would smile and reply 'Hit and Hope.'

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Pokermonster When: 03 Oct 12 01:42

Good morning AG:

I've just resurrected my cueball thread for you, sir. Have a read through and let me know what you think.

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Pokermonster When: 03 Oct 12 01:44

My apologies Squeeze.

I thought you might be my internet buddy, Studyform, as he has a couple of nom de plumes with the SF initials.

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 01:46

Appreciated PM.

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Pokermonster When: 03 Oct 12 01:53

I was a cuemaker for several years, AG. And, without wishing to sound too immodest, a very good pool player. I'm writing a semi-autobiographical book about the things I've encountered during my playing days, plus a few pointers on how to play the game better.

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 02:15

A cuemaker, excellent.

I grew up with the game. My dads best pal was a promoter and we holidayed at Prestatyn when the pro am was on. Thought i was going to be a pro. Natural cue action, smooth in the balls but not enough dedication and too nervous in front of the crowd.

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 02:18

Without being too personal Pokermonster, would you be a familar name in the pool world then?

I`m not so familiar with the top pool players myself. Obviously Selby was a top player but its always just been snooker for me.

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Pokermonster When: 03 Oct 12 02:30

I was a familiar name in the pool and snooker world twenty years ago, AG, and a few of today's top players would still know me. I was also employed as a features writer for several trade magazines in England, Europe and America.

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GPT When: 03 Oct 12 06:34

Oct 2, 2012 -- 2:50PM, paradox and equilibrium wrote:

GPT 02 Oct 12 19:02I apologise pokie man I got you mixed up with one of the nutters who thinks thermite could have been used,as you need 80 tons of it and it won't work anyway we can put that theory to bed sorry about the mix up.Wow you seem shrewd, perhaps you can explain how you came to the conclusion 80 tons of thermite would be needed, and why it "won't work anyway" before we "put that theory to bed"

Mathematics however for obvious reasons there's not much point showing you the calculations.For someone who thinks thermite could have been used you know remarkably little about ithave a read up on it and then you will realise.
As I said it's a non starter so you need to come up with another source,explosive fairy dust perhaps?

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erse2 When: 03 Oct 12 06:53

>explosive fairy dust perhaps?

nah, a meta-material from Roswell... but if you type it out someone will come round and erase your memory, so please don't.

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erse2 When: 03 Oct 12 06:55

the real scandal is that the twin towers are still there, they're just cloaked by the CIA. who will unveil them when the Rothschild family see fit ;o)

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 07:46

GPT

Have you looked into nano thermite or thermite?

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Angel Gabrial When: 03 Oct 12 07:51

A Nano-thermite or "super-thermite"

MICs or Super-thermites are generally developed for military use, propellants, explosives, and pyrotechnics. Research into military applications of nano-sized materials began in the early 1990s.[3] Because of their highly increased reaction rate, nanosized thermitic materials are being studied by the U.S. military with the aim of developing new types of bombs several times more powerful than conventional explosives.[4] Nanoenergetic materials can store more energy than conventional energetic materials and can be used in innovative ways to tailor the release of this energy. Thermobaric weapons are one potential application of nanoenergetic materials.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nano-thermite

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polybot When: 03 Oct 12 09:35

I'm puzzled, why wouldn't Evil Genius Rumsfeld simply contact Blair who would contact James Bond would contact Q Branch? I bet Q would have some new gadget that would have blown up those buildings.