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Scottish 3rd division match between Rangers and East Stirling,Rangers are available with Corals at 1/12.
I know Rangers drew last week with Peterhead,but East Stirling are a different kettle of fish,they are usually the whipping boys of this division,i fully expect the score line to be 7-0 plus.
The only thing what is on my mind is how i am going to tell my wife that it is a sure fire bet.
I know Rangers drew last week with Peterhead,but East Stirling are a different kettle of fish,they are usually the whipping boys of this division,i fully expect the score line to be 7-0 plus.
The only thing what is on my mind is how i am going to tell my wife that it is a sure fire bet.
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lol Patra
How much is your usual 'Lump on' ... Huggy
How much is your usual 'Lump on' ... Huggy
To tell you the truth i very rarely back odds on selections for singles,but i have in the past placed bets for a monkey on a couple of occasions.
My father loved taking big single bets on odds on shots,I remember once a geezer having 3k on Shergar in the St Ledger when Cut Above beat it.
My father loved taking big single bets on odds on shots,I remember once a geezer having 3k on Shergar in the St Ledger when Cut Above beat it.
I think its as close to a cert as you'll get. But I thought the same last weekend when I layed Peterhead at 14 v Rangers.
I came within seconds of losing my whole bank.
I came within seconds of losing my whole bank.
Let's get this right.
Joined: 09 Mar 04 | Topic/replies: 5,095 | Blogger: Huggy
( I have noticed today William Hill have pushed them out from 1/16 to 1/12,trimming the draw from 8/1 in to 7/1 They know something ?)
That doesn't make sense Huggy. Can you clarify what was the original price Will Hill quoted and what is it now? 12/1 on Oddschecker.
Joined: 09 Mar 04 | Topic/replies: 5,095 | Blogger: Huggy
( I have noticed today William Hill have pushed them out from 1/16 to 1/12,trimming the draw from 8/1 in to 7/1 They know something ?)
That doesn't make sense Huggy. Can you clarify what was the original price Will Hill quoted and what is it now? 12/1 on Oddschecker.
1/12 is a better price than 1/16
they were pushed out in the betting, FROM 1/16
they were pushed out in the betting, FROM 1/16
My mate lost £2k on here trying to gobble up a £2 profit, they do lose.
imo bet what you can afford to lose, not what you hope to gain. If you back 1/12 shots enough time then they will lose.
Bookies make their money by offering unfair odds but they do get them wrong sometimes, if you judge the 1/12 to be wrong then back but only back if you can take the hit. I thought the Gers were a shoe in to win last week BTW even though I never touched the match.
imo bet what you can afford to lose, not what you hope to gain. If you back 1/12 shots enough time then they will lose.
Bookies make their money by offering unfair odds but they do get them wrong sometimes, if you judge the 1/12 to be wrong then back but only back if you can take the hit. I thought the Gers were a shoe in to win last week BTW even though I never touched the match.
If a team is shortening it's the opposite of being pushed out.
eg
LONG-TIME ante-post favourite Sarafina has been pushed out to 4-1 (from 100-30) with William Hill for Sunday’s Qatar Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp after being drawn in stall 13 on Friday morning.
LONG-TIME ante-post favourite Sarafina has been pushed out to 4-1 (from 100-30) with William Hill for Sunday’s Qatar Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp after being drawn in stall 13 on Friday morning.
1/12 to 1/16 is shortening (coming in)
You need to put £16 on to win £1
1/16 to 1/12 is lengthening (going out)
At 1/12 you only need £12 to win £1
Are you fishing ffs ?!?!?!
You need to put £16 on to win £1
1/16 to 1/12 is lengthening (going out)
At 1/12 you only need £12 to win £1
Are you fishing ffs ?!?!?!
Numbers work backwards with odds on. ( Have I been hooked here? )
what's this supposed to mean?
( I have noticed today William Hill have pushed them out from 1/16 to 1/12,trimming the draw from 8/1 in to 7/1 They know something ?)
Doesn't make sense, worded wrongly!
( I have noticed today William Hill have pushed them out from 1/16 to 1/12,trimming the draw from 8/1 in to 7/1 They know something ?)
Doesn't make sense, worded wrongly!
Would you like a bet Egg? A load of boloks being talked on here.
Right, I'll phone William Hill, not that I need confirmation.
12/1 to 16/1 is going OUT
reverse for odds-on
so 1/16 to 1/12 is also going out
What was the year before 99 B.C. ?
It was 100 B.C. not 98 B.C.
reverse for odds-on
so 1/16 to 1/12 is also going out
What was the year before 99 B.C. ?
It was 100 B.C. not 98 B.C.
I've got a spare £200 sitting here that says I'm right
will agree with me. ring 08005870026 option 3. will hill shop queries.
Or £16K because that will be more for me to win and less for kenny to lose 
who decided it's reverse for odds on? why should it be?
i've spoken to 2 different chaps at william hill who agree with me. gave me an example 1/3 to 1/2 is being pushed out.
Convert them into decimals and you will see
FFS 
How much do you have to put on to win £1 if a hoss is 1/12 = ANSWER £12
How much do you have to put on to win £1 if a hoss is 1/16 = ANSWER £16
So 1/16 is a WORSE price than 1/12
So when it goes FROM 1/16 TO 1/12 it's being pushed OUT
In the famous words of Basil Fawlty - Try to understand this before one of us dies
How much do you have to put on to win £1 if a hoss is 1/12 = ANSWER £12
How much do you have to put on to win £1 if a hoss is 1/16 = ANSWER £16
So 1/16 is a WORSE price than 1/12
So when it goes FROM 1/16 TO 1/12 it's being pushed OUT
In the famous words of Basil Fawlty - Try to understand this before one of us dies
1/16 out to 1/12
1.06 out to 1.08
You get more money back so the price has gone out.
1.06 out to 1.08
You get more money back so the price has gone out.
In the famous words of Basil Fawlty - Try to understand this before one of us dies
i've spoken to 2 different chaps at william hill who agree with me. gave me an example 1/3 to 1/2 is being pushed out.
ffs
1/3 to 1/2 IS being pushed out
the number on the right is smaller in the second price than the number on the right in the first price
1/16 to 1/12 is JUST THE FACKING SAME - being pushed OUT
ffs
1/3 to 1/2 IS being pushed out
the number on the right is smaller in the second price than the number on the right in the first price
1/16 to 1/12 is JUST THE FACKING SAME - being pushed OUT
1/10 to 10/1 would be pushed out ... so yeah he's correct
Punters just think the opposite
Punters just think the opposite
IT's all viewed from evens so, yes 12/1 to 16/1 is going OUT, but so is 1/12 to 1/16 : therefore 1/16 to 1/12 is 'coming in'. hth
Penny Drop
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzA6nL4fwKg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzA6nL4fwKg
I thought I had backed a big priced winner
Going back on to the Sporting Life website, form this facking debacle, I saw my horse was at the top at 33/1 and let out a 'woooooohooooo'
But I had mistakenly clicked on to racecards and not results !!
My horse was at the top because to was number 1
Going back on to the Sporting Life website, form this facking debacle, I saw my horse was at the top at 33/1 and let out a 'woooooohooooo'
But I had mistakenly clicked on to racecards and not results !!
My horse was at the top because to was number 1
If a horse has been pushed out in the betting
kenny mann 17 Aug 12 19:32 Joined: 29 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 12,922 | Blogger: kenny mann's blog
has it gone from 1/3 to 1/2 or 1/2 to 1/3?
Just to settle an argument on chit chat.
elise 17 Aug 12 19:33 Joined: 04 Jan 03 |
sums up chit chat
Roquebrune 17 Aug 12 19:33 Joined: 24 May 08 | Topic/replies: 4,764 |
1/3 to 1/2
kenny mann 17 Aug 12 19:36 Joined: 29 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 12,922 | Blogger: kenny mann's blog
Thanks Roquebrune. I win.
lamott 17 Aug 12 19:36 Joined: 16 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 707 | Blogger: lamott's blog
goodgrief.....
kenny mann 17 Aug 12 19:38 Joined: 29 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 12,922
I know thick as whale omlettes some of 'em.
kenny mann 17 Aug 12 19:32 Joined: 29 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 12,922 | Blogger: kenny mann's blog
has it gone from 1/3 to 1/2 or 1/2 to 1/3?
Just to settle an argument on chit chat.
elise 17 Aug 12 19:33 Joined: 04 Jan 03 |
sums up chit chat
Roquebrune 17 Aug 12 19:33 Joined: 24 May 08 | Topic/replies: 4,764 |
1/3 to 1/2
kenny mann 17 Aug 12 19:36 Joined: 29 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 12,922 | Blogger: kenny mann's blog
Thanks Roquebrune. I win.
lamott 17 Aug 12 19:36 Joined: 16 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 707 | Blogger: lamott's blog
goodgrief.....
kenny mann 17 Aug 12 19:38 Joined: 29 Apr 10 | Topic/replies: 12,922
I know thick as whale omlettes some of 'em.
You need to re read what you have said on this thread. Your HR thread is correct, I don't dispute that.
No wonder I'm the only pro punter on chit chat with the exception of Coach'.
Are we having that bet before you go then?
twomatchpoints 17 Aug 12 19:46
We're not talking 1/3 to 1/2, even though it's the same principle
Huggy posted on chit chat that William Hill have pushed Rangers out FROM 1/16 TO 1/12
kenny mann thinks that 1/16 to 1/12 is coming in..i.e. shortening
Somebody convince him he is wrong, before I get my passport out, get a facking train to Bradford, and batter him over the head with his own facking cat
from the hoss forum
We're not talking 1/3 to 1/2, even though it's the same principle
Huggy posted on chit chat that William Hill have pushed Rangers out FROM 1/16 TO 1/12
kenny mann thinks that 1/16 to 1/12 is coming in..i.e. shortening
Somebody convince him he is wrong, before I get my passport out, get a facking train to Bradford, and batter him over the head with his own facking cat
from the hoss forum
Let me strike this bet first, I haven't had a winner all day
lol, going out now, will check when get back.
get on qpr tomorrow at 11/10.
get on qpr tomorrow at 11/10.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
tmp and green 100%, their patience has held out admirably
Indeed Sir Fresh, but they sailed through my little test. I'm proud of all of 'em.
Nice of you to pop in btw.
Nice of you to pop in btw.
William Hills betting on this event from the start of price up
1/12 price now
1/20 opening price
urm
1/12 price now
1/20 opening price
urm
Kenny.
You can have as many bets on odds-ons in my shop as you like.
I'll even push all the prices out for you.
As a special gesture for a long term chit-chatter.
You can have as many bets on odds-ons in my shop as you like.
I'll even push all the prices out for you.
As a special gesture for a long term chit-chatter.
When I looked earlier in the week, arsenal were 50/1 to come in the bottom half of the table, looked like a great bet to me.
Having just read the whole thread, I think kennys confusion arose from what someone else said. Then in true northern monkey style, he dug his heels in and refused to admit he was wrong. Long live Geoff boycott.
Kennys dropped a severe bollock here
id change my username if i got that wrong
id change my username if i got that wrong
Correct Rob, I'm not reall all that numb!
DIVISION 1 SELECTIONS For SATURDAY
PRODELLBOY 17 Aug 12 21:04 Joined: 02 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 4,285 | Blogger: PRODELLBOY's blog
POS CHG FORM NAME SELECTION RESULT +/- TOTAL
1▲ 21-2111 cannyman Switzerland - 8.25 Kem WON 2/1f 2.00 £13.45
2▲ 01-1000 old applejack Switzerland - 8.25 Kem WON 2/1f 2.00 £12.33
3▲ 00211n1 Ardross66 Cour Valant - 2.10 Nott WON 15/8f 1.88 £10.18
4▲ 00-1101 The Lord BUSH Ajmany - 5.25 Newm WON 15/8f 1.88 £8.77
5 1110201 scissors (3) Tinseltown - 5.35 Catt Lost -1.00 £4.59
6 10-1101 alist5 (1) Byton - 4.30 Newb Lost -1.00 £3.33
7 211u101 warrick hunt Loving Spirit - 8.25 Kem 2nd 8/1 -1.00 £3.27
8 21-3123 poppydog Tamara Bay - 8.15 Catt Lost -1.00 £1.98
9 +2 0001001 Andrew in Sweden Rosdhu Queen - 4.00 Newb WON 11/10f 1.10 £1.43
10 +5 02-1002 Polo Minx Howyadoingnotsobad - 5.45 Kem WON 2/1 2.00 £0.97
11 -2 0022203 feastforfamine China Excels - 3.35 Newc Last -1.00 £0.95
12 +2 22-1001 ThreeToFour Bana Wu - 5.05 Newb WON 2/5f 0.40 £0.02
13 -3 23-1100 Reged Ashva - 3.35 Newc Lost -1.00 -£0.45
14 -2 00-2121 WeeJimmyMcTavish (1) Lord Buffhead - 5.50 Newc 2nd 7/1 -1.00 -£0.75
15 -2 n0-1012 dogdayafternoon (5) 1st Maiden Fav Lost -1.00 -£0.85
16 01-0201 Ricky Santini Dance For Georgie - 8.15 Catt Nr 0.00 -£1.62
17 10-0002 Sing when ur winning (2) Fav 1st race Lost -1.00 -£3.25
18 +7 31-n20d de44ek4 Switzerland - 8.25 Kem WON 2/1f 2.00 -£4.00
19 +4 2221001 the pretender (1) Galleon - 7.10 Catt WON 10/11f 0.91 -£4.09
20 +2 20-1120 Kentish Man Bana Wu - 5.05 Newb WON 2/5f 0.40 -£4.30
21 -2 20-1021 jrw (1) Gold Rules - 5.35 Newm Nr 0.00 -£4.38
22 -4 21-1n20 The Grey One School Fees - 2.40 Nott Lost -1.00 -£4.54
23 -3 02-2012 The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil Require - 3.25 Newb Lost -1.00 -£5.44
24 +3 02-1022 grey shark Cour Valant - 2.10 Nott WON 15/8f 1.88 -£5.47
25 -4 1030020 Value Seeker (3) LRF - if no[post 3rd 13/8f -1.00 -£5.50
26▼ 12-1020 potlessagain Bana Wu - 5.05 Newb WON 2/5f 0.40 -£6.24
27▼ -3 00-0010 josh monk Delft - 4.30 Newb Lost -1.00 -£6.79
28▼ +2 22-022d ardgirl Prime Exhibit - 2.50 Newb WON 7/1 7.00 -£7.00
29▼ -1 1000000 GEORGE.B Galleon - 7.10 Catt WON 10/11f 0.91 -£7.99
30▼ -1 1302000 fortieschild Last Sovereign - 5.55 Newm 2nd 14/1 -1.00 -£12.50
DIVISION 1 SELECTIONS For SATURDAY
PRODELLBOY 17 Aug 12 21:04 Joined: 02 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 4,285 | Blogger: PRODELLBOY's blog
POS CHG FORM NAME SELECTION RESULT +/- TOTAL
1▲ 21-2111 cannyman Switzerland - 8.25 Kem WON 2/1f 2.00 £13.45
2▲ 01-1000 old applejack Switzerland - 8.25 Kem WON 2/1f 2.00 £12.33
3▲ 00211n1 Ardross66 Cour Valant - 2.10 Nott WON 15/8f 1.88 £10.18
4▲ 00-1101 The Lord BUSH Ajmany - 5.25 Newm WON 15/8f 1.88 £8.77
5 1110201 scissors (3) Tinseltown - 5.35 Catt Lost -1.00 £4.59
6 10-1101 alist5 (1) Byton - 4.30 Newb Lost -1.00 £3.33
7 211u101 warrick hunt Loving Spirit - 8.25 Kem 2nd 8/1 -1.00 £3.27
8 21-3123 poppydog Tamara Bay - 8.15 Catt Lost -1.00 £1.98
9 +2 0001001 Andrew in Sweden Rosdhu Queen - 4.00 Newb WON 11/10f 1.10 £1.43
10 +5 02-1002 Polo Minx Howyadoingnotsobad - 5.45 Kem WON 2/1 2.00 £0.97
11 -2 0022203 feastforfamine China Excels - 3.35 Newc Last -1.00 £0.95
12 +2 22-1001 ThreeToFour Bana Wu - 5.05 Newb WON 2/5f 0.40 £0.02
13 -3 23-1100 Reged Ashva - 3.35 Newc Lost -1.00 -£0.45
14 -2 00-2121 WeeJimmyMcTavish (1) Lord Buffhead - 5.50 Newc 2nd 7/1 -1.00 -£0.75
15 -2 n0-1012 dogdayafternoon (5) 1st Maiden Fav Lost -1.00 -£0.85
16 01-0201 Ricky Santini Dance For Georgie - 8.15 Catt Nr 0.00 -£1.62
17 10-0002 Sing when ur winning (2) Fav 1st race Lost -1.00 -£3.25
18 +7 31-n20d de44ek4 Switzerland - 8.25 Kem WON 2/1f 2.00 -£4.00
19 +4 2221001 the pretender (1) Galleon - 7.10 Catt WON 10/11f 0.91 -£4.09
20 +2 20-1120 Kentish Man Bana Wu - 5.05 Newb WON 2/5f 0.40 -£4.30
21 -2 20-1021 jrw (1) Gold Rules - 5.35 Newm Nr 0.00 -£4.38
22 -4 21-1n20 The Grey One School Fees - 2.40 Nott Lost -1.00 -£4.54
23 -3 02-2012 The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil Require - 3.25 Newb Lost -1.00 -£5.44
24 +3 02-1022 grey shark Cour Valant - 2.10 Nott WON 15/8f 1.88 -£5.47
25 -4 1030020 Value Seeker (3) LRF - if no[post 3rd 13/8f -1.00 -£5.50
26▼ 12-1020 potlessagain Bana Wu - 5.05 Newb WON 2/5f 0.40 -£6.24
27▼ -3 00-0010 josh monk Delft - 4.30 Newb Lost -1.00 -£6.79
28▼ +2 22-022d ardgirl Prime Exhibit - 2.50 Newb WON 7/1 7.00 -£7.00
29▼ -1 1000000 GEORGE.B Galleon - 7.10 Catt WON 10/11f 0.91 -£7.99
30▼ -1 1302000 fortieschild Last Sovereign - 5.55 Newm 2nd 14/1 -1.00 -£12.50
htf did i miss this?
kenny mann, wtff????
kenny mann, wtff????
Watch out for the European bookie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhzNiSOy0OA&NR=1&feature=endscreen
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhzNiSOy0OA&NR=1&feature=endscreen
huggy should have placed the bet at 1/12 and laid it at 1.07 on here. traded for plenty.
get rid of Bob and Pole Dole Guy and Kenny Mann starts posting nonsense
Hindsight i know but 1/2 Rangers to outscore Celtic Yesterday was reasonable.
Had E.Stirling not taken an unexpected lead, there wouldn't have been a trading opportunity.
The whole thing was best left alone.
The whole thing was best left alone.
That's incorrect Study, the trade was available before the game started.
OK - I didn't know that.
But he wouldn't have made much, would he?
Having laid out £12,000 to win £1000 (and not knowing a trade would be available), how much would he have had to lay at 1.07 (assuming it got taken), to have made it a worthwhile exercise?
As I said - the whole thing was best left alone.
But he wouldn't have made much, would he?
Having laid out £12,000 to win £1000 (and not knowing a trade would be available), how much would he have had to lay at 1.07 (assuming it got taken), to have made it a worthwhile exercise?
As I said - the whole thing was best left alone.
If i had had the bet,I dare say that for the first five minutes of the game i would of not been in a position to do anything with the bet,as i would have been layed out on the setee not feeling very well.
Huggy they were 1.12 after the goal (stupid price imo-although they won-of course!) a good reason to back on here sometimes is you coulda layed the majority off with a zero figure on the win .. and a small loss if they didn't win .
You also could've layed some off pre-match @ 1.06
always better to trade with these kinda bets
You also could've layed some off pre-match @ 1.06
always better to trade with these kinda bets
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