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I feel i'm missing out, what am i entitled to?

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By:
UTI
When: 21 Oct 10 09:57
You are entitled to fk off.
By:
Reyes
When: 21 Oct 10 09:58
how much is that a week?
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 21 Oct 10 09:59
UTI LaughLaughLaugh
By:
jimmy69
When: 21 Oct 10 09:59
You'd be lucky getting 1 a week.
By:
UTI
When: 21 Oct 10 09:59
£80.95, you get an extra tenner if you're dyslexic.
By:
Reyes
When: 21 Oct 10 10:05
surely i misheard that about a third of all spending goes on welfare/benefits. that's about 230 BILLION pounds. How can it possibly that much. (that's not health, education or defence in there)

bird this morning on the radio complaining that a (soon to be made redundant) civil servant who rents a flat won't be able to get housing benefit to pay for it from now on. The poor lamb.
By:
Reyes
When: 21 Oct 10 10:06
*possibly be*
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 21 Oct 10 10:10
you forgot pensions
By:
UTI
When: 21 Oct 10 10:10
230 billion?

What does that include then?

dole money, incapacity benefit, housing benefit, council tax benefit
disability living allowance, pensions, child benefit, family tax
credit, other stuff.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 21 Oct 10 10:12
16% welfare, 18% pensions
By:
UTI
When: 21 Oct 10 10:15
I think they should increase the pension, and get rid of winter fuel allowance and increase the pension age.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 21 Oct 10 10:17
getting rid of the winter fuel allowance for pensioners living on the Costa del Sol would be a good idea for starters.
By:
Randle
When: 21 Oct 10 10:18
most of the welfare budget goes on pensions
By:
UTI
When: 21 Oct 10 10:19
Bit of an insult I reckon giving them a handout when its cold.  Just put it on the pension so they can spend it/save it over the course of the year.  It's just a way of complicating the whole system, because I think you still have to apply for it, which means civil servants time and effort is wasted filling in forms, printing forms and looking at forms and all that nonsense.  Fk £200/£400 a year and just give them an extra £4/£8 a week.
By:
Wedged
When: 21 Oct 10 12:23
I think the pro of it coming in a lump at winter time is that a lot people in this country are socialist peons who cannot manage their money, therefore would have blown it on scratchcards each week and then struggle through winter again, moaning.
By:
salsabil5
When: 21 Oct 10 12:59
Wedged is correct
By:
Psychic Mutley
When: 21 Oct 10 13:58
The staggering statistic is that the cost of benefits is almost exactly equal to the take from income tax. About £160bn.
Read this (from 2009) and weep:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5651825/Benefit-payouts-will-exceed-income-tax-revenue.html

In other words, every penny taken from your earnings as income tax, goes straight to paying the benefits of the workshy, feckless and irresponsible.

For a higher rate taxpayer, it's the equivalent of working until June before you get to keep any of the money you've earned.

Of course, the lefties on the forum (you know who you are) would say that this is both fair and sustainable.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Oct 10 14:38
You have to wonder how they let it come to this in the first place, its simple maths ffs.
By:
mr winkle
When: 21 Oct 10 14:52
A few facts that some of you most probably don't know :

1) Two weeks ago the minimum wage was raised by the magnificent sum of 13p to £5-93p per hour. 

Bear the following facts in mind first :

At the age of 18, a male is considerd to be a man.

He can:

Vote in an election.
He can enter a betting shop.
If he commits a serious criminal offence he will go to prison, not a borstal.
He can watch X rated films at a cinema.
he can go into a pub and buy an alcoholic drink.
(Strange how he can buy cigarettes at 16, but there's a lot of tax in that for the govt coffers)
In the vent of the country declaring  war on another country, he will be eligible to be called up for active service, and may get killed doing it.

On the very same day that the the minimum wage was increased,
The Equalities Bill came into force. Everybody is now considered equal (yeh - right) regardless of race, creed, colour, gender, sexual orientation and probably a host of other crap.

EQUALITIES BILL ????? is bollocks.

You are NOT entitled to minimum wage until you are 22 years old. It was 23 until two weeks ago.

So once you pass 18. and you could die for your country, you're still not a man in the eyes of your government unless you survive until you're 22.

That doesn't sound very EQUAL, to me.

Now back to £5-93 an hour, which is the minimum nationwide, no matter where you live. Unskilled labourers in London get paid more than this because if they were paid the minimum, it wouldn't be worth going to work if they had a wife and a child.

But, JSA, Incapacity Benefit and any other benefit, is paid at the SAME rate all over the UK, no matter where you live.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 21 Oct 10 14:56
So how much extra should London claimants get?
By:
Max and Paddy
When: 21 Oct 10 15:04
mr winkle 21 Oct 10 14:52
(Strange how he can buy cigarettes at 16, but there's a lot of tax in that for the govt coffers)


No he can't.

Seriously, winkle: have you ever been right about anything?
By:
mr winkle
When: 21 Oct 10 15:37
Don't worry about the rest of it being right. 

When did the law change then ?
By:
Max and Paddy
When: 21 Oct 10 15:47
Find out for yourself, you lazy so and so.
By:
Wedged
When: 21 Oct 10 15:51
End of 2007 I think.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 21 Oct 10 16:42
Wedged Joined: 19 Nov 05
Replies: 4470 21 Oct 10 12:23   


I think the pro of it coming in a lump at winter time is that a lot people in this country are socialist peons who cannot manage their money, therefore would have blown it on scratchcards each week and then struggle through winter again, moaning.


Why not burn the used scratchcards?

Double bubble!
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Oct 10 18:29
UTI     21 Oct 10 09:57 
You are entitled to fk off.
Laugh
By:
Reyes
When: 21 Oct 10 19:30
been reading some more whilst in the pub.

According to the analysis, the wealthiest fifth of Britons have a net household income averaging £48,700 and they use public services with an estimated value of £5,400 each year. The poorest fifth have an average income of £13,800 but use public services totalling £11,500.

(from the Telegraph)

Why the discrepancy? What does the 11.5k go on?
By:
weymouth
When: 21 Oct 10 20:14
**** and Beer REYES **** and beer
By:
weymouth
When: 21 Oct 10 20:15
F A G S and beer
By:
mr winkle
When: 21 Oct 10 22:27
Sica Dan   523 21 Oct 10 14:56 
So how much extra should London claimants get?


Govts don't work that way round. Devil

If they think the cost of living up north is cheaper, they'll cut their benefit instead.
By:
Stretch Armstrong
When: 21 Oct 10 22:29
top it up with gambling
By:
Cricketer
When: 21 Oct 10 22:44
dont pay pensions to people who leave the country.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Oct 10 23:13
Cricketer , haven't they earned the right to it if they've worked in the UK ?
By:
Wedged
When: 21 Oct 10 23:30
Exactly Coach.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 22 Oct 10 00:20
nder EU law pensioners must get pension plus cold weather allowance no matter where they are.The odd thing is how the Govt  get away with not paying increases to pensioners in certain countries.
By:
aziraphale
When: 22 Oct 10 01:25
Of course, the lefties on the forum (you know who you are) would say that this is both fair and sustainable.

B0llocks, I'm a leftie and I think benefits should be scrapped. Too many workshy wastrels around.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Oct 14 17:24
£28billion a year is paid out in Housing Benefit and Tax Credits to families who have decided to work, but the wages don't pay enough to live on.


Ask yourself a question - if you were an employer, would you pay your staff more so they had no need to claim benefits, or let the government take up the slack from the taxpayers?
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 24 Oct 14 19:39
presume that is per family CMAT.
By:
call me a taxi
When: 24 Oct 14 19:48
what is?
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