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By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Sep 16 10:20
Simply Red / Dire Straits / Sting / Phil Collins

You may loathe them (quite correctly) but the thread was supposed to be about artists whose success baffles you rather than opinion piece. All the above were '80's yuppie dinner party muzak from MTV-friendly hell', which was a huge demographic. Throw in Live Aid which re-energised many careers (Queen especially) and there's your explanation for their commercial success.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 20 Sep 16 10:22
I'm not a fan of any of them but to put Dire Straits, Sting and even Phil Collins in the same bracket as Simply Red is a frigging travesty, rog!
By:
guinness2dear
When: 20 Sep 16 11:32
Has anyone said Liberace yet?
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 20 Sep 16 11:32
Well, they are / were in the same bracket in the 80's.

Dinner party muzak for the pretendy sophisticated nouveau riche

Sade was another....
By:
asparagus
When: 21 Sep 16 12:53
The correct answer is Cliff Richard. How the hell did that happen? A whole career of absolute rubbish with absolutely no redeeming qualities.
By:
brockville
When: 21 Sep 16 15:59
Fair comment Mikael.

I humbly withdraw my below the belt assertion that chit chat is full of Take That fanboys.BlushShocked
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 21 Sep 16 16:31

Sep 21, 2016 -- 12:53PM, asparagus wrote:


The correct answer is Cliff Richard. How the hell did that happen? A whole career of absolute rubbish with absolutely no redeeming qualities.


Again, the 'desperate baby-boomer housewives' (of whom there are millions) who fancied him in the 50's / 60's when he was the British Elvis and kept on fancying him as he became nice, safe, bland and unchallenging mirroring their own lifetime journeys.

Someone for those who think Daniel O'Donnell is a bit too edgy.

By:
asparagus
When: 22 Sep 16 09:47
Roger, whilst I'm sure your reasoning is correct (and I hadn't really considered the mirroring housewives lives aspect) I still find it baffling. This whole "British Elvis" thing. How did they manage that? I'm not really a fan of Elvis but i can see the sex appeal and excitement both he and some of his hits brought to the party. Cliff was as safe as houses from very early in his career. I'm amazed that there was any sex appeal even then. (Summer Holiday, Livin Doll, etc). From the time when the Beatles and then the Stones etc came along he really should have been forgotten about.
I still find the whole thing remarkable.
By:
TELL DEL
When: 22 Sep 16 10:35
By:
TELL DEL
When: 22 Sep 16 10:38
Whose musical success baffles you the most?

^ From all the names on here Su Bo has got to be the No.1
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 22 Sep 16 11:06

Sep 22, 2016 -- 9:47AM, asparagus wrote:


Roger, whilst I'm sure your reasoning is correct (and I hadn't really considered the mirroring housewives lives aspect) I still find it baffling. This whole "British Elvis" thing. How did they manage that? I'm not really a fan of Elvis but i can see the sex appeal and excitement both he and some of his hits brought to the party. Cliff was as safe as houses from very early in his career. I'm amazed that there was any sex appeal even then. (Summer Holiday, Livin Doll, etc). From the time when the Beatles and then the Stones etc came along he really should have been forgotten about. I still find the whole thing remarkable.


It is strange isn't it?

You're in the middle of a social and sexual revolution, The old order is changing. Barricades are being thrown up all over the free world.  Free love....Vietnam....Drugs...the counterculture movement

.....and Cliff is singing 'Batchelor Boy'!

By:
Facts
When: 22 Sep 16 13:32
Some amazing comments on this thread.
Just for the record , my personal hero's :-

Bowie
Springsteen
Neil Young
Cohen
Roxy Music
Kate Bush
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 22 Sep 16 13:36
You'd think somebody with Bowie atop their list could spell "heroes".
By:
pixie
When: 22 Sep 16 17:58
Phil Collins and Sting for me.

Neither of whom would have made it as solo artists, imo, if it weren't for the success they'd enjoyed in a group beforehand.

I once read a review of a Sting album, calling it aural wallpaper, and I couldn't have put it better myself.
By:
Hamsterdam
When: 22 Sep 16 21:29
Mikael you won't convince me (or others) it seems on the Libertines. The only song I can remember was that really shiit one that was overplayed to death at the time YOU CAN'T STAND ME NOW BLAH BLAH. Better than those Oasis albums? Behave.

Oasis haven't been mentioned because their songs hold up, evidently.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 22 Sep 16 21:48
Oasis were mentioned in the 8th post on the thread, not by me either.

I wasn't really defending the Libertines. I can take them or leave them, and own nothing by them. I was more trying to point out they weren't particularly successful. Their critically acclaimed debut barely scraped past 100,000 in sales in the UK. What's the Story sold 4.7 million. It's sh!t.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 22 Sep 16 21:56
Just had a quick look. At least 3 people who aren't me nominated Oasis. Before this thread was resurrected, nobody had mentioned the Libertines.

Some might say very few Oasis songs 'hold up.' If you like 'em, that's fine.
By:
the bloob
When: 22 Sep 16 22:03
Ed Sheeran is another good shout, unfathomable how he's been a success

very surprised to see Kate Bush mentioned, her best stuff is as good as any singer/songwriter I can think of
By:
Facts
When: 22 Sep 16 22:27
Gravitational Pull    17 Sep 10 15:23 
have to disagree about mccartney imo the band on the run album is better than most of the beatles stuff.



Ridiculous
By:
Rob_The_Bantam
When: 23 Sep 16 13:21
Kanye West.  Only heard a couple of tracks, but it was enough.  Absolute garbage.  Also has the added bonus of apparently being an absolute koont.

Never understood the appeal of Arcade Fire either.
By:
lcredd
When: 23 Sep 16 14:50
'Funeral' by Arcade Fire is pure class.

I don't 'get' Lady Ga Ga, Beyoncé, Britany ... etc etc
By:
pixie
When: 23 Sep 16 14:57
Agreed. Funeral is a class album and I can understand why early Dire Straits was hugely popular as it's very musical, kind of music that classical music fans would like.
By:
asparagus
When: 26 Sep 16 13:18
Early Dire Straits was decent and Knopfler is a superb guitarist. Whilst they also produced some rubbish they shouldn't be on the list. Kanye west, Ed Sheeran and Adele are ones where the size of their success is hard to explain.
Arcade Fire on the other hand are a great band. "Funeral' is one of the best albums this century. A brilliant live band too.
Cliff Richard is still the overall winner imo. Virtually no talent whatsoever and a whole list of absolutely appalling songs.
By:
Rockinron
When: 26 Sep 16 18:52
Rolf Harris ....Wink
Personally I like Kates bush.
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