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Gar(b)age,(c)rap,(c)hip) (s)hop, and anything else like it, is not music.
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Dylan was the first rapper in 1965 - and that was music.
Some brilliant rap music, though I'm generally not a fan. Garage and House and hip hop and all that I can't stand it, but of course it is music. Some of these kids are fanatical about it - there must be something in it. 60s the best ever imo. |
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Wasnt 60s music mainly 'underground' anyway? Same as if you actually look for bands these days rather than the pap fed on the radio/telly, you will find excellent stuff out there.
i am sure there was as much **** produced back in the 60s after they realised the 'fame' that was possible, as there is today. get to any tiny club and once in a blue moon there will be a gem of a band playing to 3 people and a duck. |
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The 60s music was and is beyond comparison.
I always listen to Sounds of the 60s Brian Mathew on the net Iplayer. Brings back many fond memories. btw did you know Crispian St Peter died recently? |
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Major advantage in the 60s - somebody else hadn't already written all the good tunes. Remarkable that anything breathtaking can be made today given that it's harder and harder to surprise and everyone can afford to do it. Like classical music. When Haydn toured The Creation, people climbed over each other to get seats, there were broken legs everywhere. Today, nobody's written anything of any significance to anyone in classical music for a long time. You can't do Magic Flute or Gimme Shelter twice. Harder today for all concerned, I'd say.
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No one liked Van Gogh's stuff, but years later.....
Hope for Slowcut yet |
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Agree, this riff was sitting around waiting to be found, Cream got there first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPJL96fbV5Q |
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About 70% of my CD collection is from the 60's.....
....and most of 'em are in the dead section now. (didn't know Crispian St Peters had died, got one of his singles, You Were On My Mind) |
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Also had a hit with The Pied Piper.
Career as good as finished when he arrogantly claimed he was bigger and better than the Beatles. |
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he was of course joking about that, the 2 big hits he had was that rare thing-a remake better than the original,made some good stuff besides and im a bit of a fan but must admit i didnt know he had died
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What he said was a joke, but unfortunately for him, he wasn't joking!
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no he must of being joking,otherwise the bloke was out of his mind,i admit i read that recently splicer but maybe you are old enough to remember it at the time?i cant believe he really meant it but he left "the scene" very quickly,was he cos he wanted to do his own stuff not remakes?
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depends on how old you are
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hi drag,me im not that old,im thinking did it make a big splash when he said it?i just like to get a feel for the times you see
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some great memories of the 60's but there was some cringeworthy stuff too. Difficult to generalise when you have the Small Faces Tin Soldier and also Esther & Abi Ofarim's Cinderella Rockerfella (guess which went to number one!)and for every Tiptoe through the tulips you have an Eve of destruction
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I realise this is an old codgers thread, but I am nearly 50 and you lot need to listen to some new music.
Open your minds and your ears, try listening to a radio station that plays music post 1990 or start messing around on the u-tube and move from something you know and feel safe with to something you don't. I reckon you might change your mind. |
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Listen to Brian Matthews on a sat morning for your answer, dire dated samey shockfest with a few exceptions.
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Someone posted a question about a radio that show that used a Jimi Hendrix song they wanted the title of. I listened to it and it was Third Stone From the Sun. But the point is, what ever the station (I think it was Radio 6) and the show, the music I heard on that was bloody good (and new), so yes Jack you have a point.
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utter rubbish clarkson,the usual great hits from the 60s,some wonderful unknown tracks,lots of information which i always find intresting but because the show plays all 60s stuff we will also hear some real horrors--if you dont like 60s dont listen-simples
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boggle's sort of right. There was a huge void to be filled - stuff never done before. Today's bunch have to recycle or think outside the orbit of the junk. And many of them do. And I have to say some of today's music is far more "cerebral"/interesting than in the 60s. Though the 60s got much of the the basic-urge music (apart from what the censors stopped - which became much of later output as dodgy standards disintegrated). Thank god for (some) new music.
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sound to me like you'd all love tom petty's buried treasure shows
http://expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31476&sid=70b18084515505d1ca2c1dd2f9cc731e&start=50 can dowload them from here or listen to 3 tracks from each show exclusively at www.tompettyisgod.co.uk |
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I do like Tom Petty's stuff a great deal already but suspect he's reached the end of his creative road.
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tom petty is the host of the show, very very rarely does he play his own stuff
good old fashioned rock n roll with some blues and harder stuff thrown in |
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this is episode 22 of season 3
1 Buried Treasure Theme Song 2 Ramblin%u2019 Gamblin%u2019 Man %u2013 Bob Seger System 3 Make Me Yours %u2013 Bettye Swann 4 In My Own Time %u2013 The Bee Gees 5 No Matter What %u2013 Badfinger 6 Hold On %u2013 The Rascals 7 Don%u2019t Fade On Me %u2013 Then There Were Two 8 Gypsy Eyes %u2013 Jimi Hendrx Experience 9 Don%u2019t Take Your Guns To Town %u2013 Johnny Cash 10 Gunslinger %u2013 Mink DeVille 11 Fools Rush In %u2013 Ricky Nelson 12 Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere %u2013 Neil Young With Crazy Horse 13 Dear Lady Twist %u2013 Gary U.S. Bonds 14 Wham! %u2013 Lonnie Mack 15 Treat Her Right %u2013 Otis Redding 16 Flight 505 %u2013 The Rolling Stones 17 Mean Woman Blues %u2013 Roy Orbison 18 Since You%u2019ve Been Gone (Sweet Sweet Baby)) %u2013 Aretha Franklin 19 Shake Your Hips %u2013 Slim Harpo 20 Farther Up The Road %u2013 Bobby %u201CBlue%u201D Bland 21 Mechanical World %u2013 Spirit |
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Too much black **** passing for music now, no offence if you are a producer of black **** music.
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wow great stuff..spirit cool
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much 2 fat butt a little 2 small..12 dreams.top5 ever man
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even nilssons gets a few plays in season 4
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long
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60's for influence, 90's for product. I expect to be in a very small majority here, but frankly I don't care!
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I'm fairly certain I care even less. But I try to seem interested just to encourage the others.
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In the 60s the music varied from Soul, Motown, ballads, psychadelia, folk, rock.
What have you got now-(C)Rap, sampling, 3 chord repetative dance music and NO innovation. Every Black Eyed Fleas record sounds the same. And anyone who thinks Dizee Rascal is talented should be put in the middle of the crowd in Joburg and Vavazulued to death. In my time on this forum I have enjoyed the many musical discussions so thanks for that. |
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Slicer, with the greatest of respect, whatutalkinabout? As said below, when you were young and going out in the 60s, did you go to all the 'obvious' joints or seek out the 'underground' (whatever that means) stuff? You cannot sit there as a fifty-odd year old and moan that the music you listen to from your armchair on National |Radio is crap. These days there are millions of digital stations out there, some playing some quite bizarre and tragic stuff, but there are gems.
The situtations do not compare - the 'kids' go out to the tiny clubs as much as they ever did, and most who will be posting on this wretched forum in twenty years will think the same as you about their kids music. Incidentally, I have found myself turning down the car radio these days, therefore turning into my Dad. |
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As said below...
That's the trouble with this 'oldest first'/'newest first' lark. It makes phrases like that look like nonsense as there is nothing below. |
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What's that I hear, sirens? THE TURKS!
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DML- sit here as a 50 year old
- long time ago! But I'm glad I'm not there again.You are correct in that times have changed and the kids must find there own sounds. I never went to "underground" clubs. I started with Al Martino, The Vicounts (who could forget the classic Who Put The Bomp, Johnny Ray) etc.Although Motown sometimes now sounds a bit dated, if I was to be truthful, I think that was my all time fave style of music. But each to his own. However although the technology and production techniques have improved, its my opinion that the "music" hasn't. Talking over music tracks is not talent in my opinion. |
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50s and 60s music the best imo.
Also noticed St Peters died. Here he is in an old video where they end up having a right rave up. ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_JsBU8o-ok&feature=related |
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another go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_JsBU8o-ok&feature=related |