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By:
mr winkle
When: 30 Nov 10 12:55
1-00 Southwell       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS

       
100    -    Beyaz Villaz
96    -    Just For Leo
87    -    Heresillie
87    -    Je Suis Unrockstar
87    -    Molly Mykenis
80    -    Mrs Nisbett
not rated    -    Likeable Lad
not rated    -    Ngina
       
Beyaz Villaz and Je Suis Unrockstar are trained by Dandy Nicholls, one of those on my 'don't touch them' list       
       
I'm going to lay Je Suis Unrockstar for a place at about 1.63
By:
mr winkle
When: 30 Nov 10 13:02
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By:
mr winkle
When: 30 Nov 10 13:29
mr winkle Joined: 01 Aug 05
Replies: 13693 30 Nov 10 12:41 
1-15 Lingfield       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS       
100    -    Ebraam
96    -    Matsunosuke
94    -    Lewyn
93    -    Brandywell Boy
88    -    Silaah
84    -    Wanchai Whisper
80    -    Dancing Freddy
64    -    The Magic Of Rio
63    -    Hatman Jack
       
There's a surprise !! The evens favourite isn't top rated.       
       
I shall have a place bet on Ebraam at about 3.1, who should travel well enough to trade out for a sheckel or two profit


It won it at 13-2, Happy  it was 15 on here

Evens favourite Matsunosuke was nowhere
By:
mr winkle
When: 01 Dec 10 11:44
Looking back at some of these selections over the past few moonths it comes as no surprise that the losers occur in mainly 2 year old races, or races with less than 8 runners.

Nonetheless. after a smoke in the garden I shall be 'doing up' the 2-30 race.

2 y-o claimer with 7 runners [smiley:crazy]
By:
mr winkle
When: 01 Dec 10 12:30
2-30 Kempton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS

       
100    -    Danzigs Grandchild
87    -    Danube Dancer
85    -    Silver Age
85    -    Skeleton
83    -    Stacey
81    -    Hacket
77    -    Blaze On By
       
At the weights, Danzigs Grandchild is 13 pounds clear of the field, but even without the 7 pounds claimed by Ryan Powell, hes still  8 pounds clear. This is the first time that an apprentice rides him, but you can take your own views on that.
       
All this lot can muster up between them in 38 races is 2 wins and 2 places        
       
Going by the BF prices, and not my judgment, Caitlin is on the likely favourite, Skeleton. Caitlin is also on my 'not wanted; list of jockeys. Win or lose, it's odds on he will give the horse a thrashing with his whip.        
       
I think I'll lay Skeleton at about 2.7 despite the fact it has seen support from 3.3  last night.    

Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 01 Dec 10 12:31
At the weights, Danzigs Grandchild is 13 pounds clear of the field, but even without the 7 pounds claimed by Ryan Powell, hes still  6 pounds clear. This is the first time that an apprentice rides him, but you can take your own views on that.
By:
mr winkle
When: 01 Dec 10 14:44
Kempton 2.30 
1st  3 Danzigs Grandchild 6-4 F 
2nd  2 Silver Age 11-1
By:
curious-cat
When: 01 Dec 10 16:03
only realised there was racing on when I refreshed this thread Happy
By:
curious-cat
When: 01 Dec 10 16:03
wd
By:
mr winkle
When: 02 Dec 10 14:25
I wasted 50 minutes at 2-15 a.m. studying the two claimers at Lingfield Sad

4-30 Wolverhampton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS   
   
100    -    So Is She
85    -    Veeb
82    -    Beating Harmony
81    -    A Little Bit Dusty
80    -    Mediplomat
79    -    Ivans A Star
64    -    Ad Vitam
not rated    -    Bill Page

Bill Page is being made hot favourite for this, but as this is his 3rd run, this is where he will get his future handicap mark. If it wins, imo, it won't win my much to keep the mark down, and a place bet is too short at 1.28. Best watched, or layed.     
   
Top rated hoss So Is She has not won in 10 starts, but the extra distance may help in a first try over 9  furlongs, and if she takes to the task, the 7 pounds that Julie Burke takes off will come in handy.
       
Veeb's jockey and trainer are on my 'not wanted' list and doesn't enter calculations
       
Caitlin is on my jockeys 'not wanted' list so Mediplomat is out of my reckoning.
   
Ivans A Star does a good job of getting in the frame without winning.
       
Ad Vitma has had 7 races any started at less than 33s on one occasion.

Beating Harmony is one of Fanshawes cast offs, and today will be the first time he starts at less that 16/1.
       
A Little Bit Dusty set sail for home too soon on his last visit here and the odds on favourite caught and passed him by nearly a length.     
   
Veeb will no doubt get out in front as he's headstrong, but will hopefully tire when it matters.
       
I expect A  Little Bit Dusty to run into the frame from thereon in, and have backed him at 2.14 for a place as the price is sure to shorten up. Should be able to trade out if and when he runs out of petrol.

Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 04 Dec 10 12:35
I expect A  Little Bit Dusty to run into the frame from thereon in, and have backed him at 2.14 for a place as the price is sure to shorten up. Should be able to trade out if and when he runs out of petrol.

Forgot all about this. [smiley:crazy]

Traded very short Happy (1.1something) for a place as it was still second well inside the last furlong when it hung right and was passed, eventually finishing 4th, beaten a head for 3rd.
By:
mr winkle
When: 04 Dec 10 12:51
6-20 Wolverhampton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS       
100    -    Clear Ice
94    -    Ajaria
94    -    Valentino Swing
93    -    Bahamian Kid
92    -    Dickie Le Davoir
91    -    Kersivay
91    -    Master Leon
90    -    Spin Again
89    -    Apache Ridge

Apprentice galore here, so those allowances for them make quite a bit of difference compared to those who haven't.
         
Non-runners       
99    -    Vhujon
92    -    Misaro


Clear Ice, the top rated, has raced here 4 times, been placed 3 times, and was 4th in a blanket finish in the other race.  The fact I won't back it to win is that it's a Dandy Nicholls cast off, may be a worthy place bet at about 3.5, but there's not a red cent on it yet.

Ajaria appears to be a moody beast, and a place bet is a waste of time. He has run here 10 times. winning 3, and been nowhere in the rest. Win bet or no bet seem the only two options.

Valentino Swing has raced here 12 times and been placed just twice.

Bahamian Kid has run here 18 times with 2 wins and 4 places, and his apprentices stats don't inspire confidence. His last 5 runs have included 3 that were stone last,  and one that was second from last, the other was 4th on a 9/2 shot.

Dickie Le Davoir is out of sorts lately, but has run well here before, albeit a long while ago. 

Kersivay was tipped for a place last time out, but only made the frame as the hot favourite, Matsusunoke, was a non-runner, and the new favourite Titus Gent,  as predicted, ran like a donkey. 

Spin Again is passed over as it's trained by Dandy Nicholls and he's one of those on the 'not wanted' list.

Apache Ridge was 2nd over 7 furlongs here last Monday when unfavoured by the weights, this 6 furlong trip may suit him better.

After the departure of Vhujon and Misaro we are left with just one hoss, Master Leon.

Missed the break here last time, and tried to get back into things around the outside, finishing 8th of 14. Given a smarter exit from the stalls, he could get involved, and at around 2.4 is worth a place bet. Watch the race live, and if he facks up the start again, trade out quickly before the price drifts too far.

Happy
By:
curious-cat
When: 04 Dec 10 16:34
Diane Abbott (nap)
Davina McCall
Graham Norton
Cilla Black
Vanessa Feltz
Sandy Toskvig
Shammyleather Chukkerbutty

ironically the only true English person has the surname black. Laugh
By:
mr winkle
When: 04 Dec 10 21:41
Missed the break here last time, and tried to get back into things around the outside, finishing 8th of 14. Given a smarter exit from the stalls, he could get involved, and at around 2.4 is worth a place bet. Watch the race live, and if he facks up the start again, trade out quickly before the price drifts too far.

Missed the break again, took my stake back immediately. It ran on towards the end but  hung right again and finished 4th.
By:
mr winkle
When: 06 Dec 10 13:30
2-00 Lingfield       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATING
S       
100    -    Avonrose
98    -    Timeteam
95    -    Everymanforhimself
94    -    Caprio
92    -    Fishforcompliments
86    -    Decency
85    -    Dichoh
82    -    Batchworth Blaise
70    -    Suttonia
       
       
Avonrose - I don't back his trainer or jockey        
Suttonia - I don't back his jockey       
Timeteam seems to prefer turf to polytrack, so I'll pass him over.        
Caprio has raced here 3 times but due being a hold up horse and the fairly short run in here, he has never managed to get in the frame       
Fishforcompliments is another hold up horse, and has been out of the frame in both his races here.        
Decency has been here 3 times and his best finish was 3rd, he was off the pace, but got going on the run in to be 3rd  behind Titius Gent.

       
Titus Gent has won 4 races here from 13 here, and been placed in 4 of the other 9.

       
Bearing that in mind, I'm going to to back Decency for a place at big odds Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 06 Dec 10 14:09
Bearing that in mind, I'm going to to back Decency for a place at big odds

In at 7.8 it got as low as 4.0 Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 07 Dec 10 13:21
Just finished doing the 2-30 Claimer at Southwell, looked at the card on here for the  betting and it's just been abandoned.  Sad
By:
curious-cat
When: 07 Dec 10 15:46
12.30     Southwell
1st     3 Monsieur Jamie     10-3
By:
mr winkle
When: 08 Dec 10 12:31
12-40 Lingfield       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS   
   
100    -    Silence Is Bliss
99    -    My Lord
91    -    Sir Lunchalott
83    -    Eternal Youth
84    -    Theavonfilly
78    -    Local Diktater
       
Silence Is Bliss not proven over this far so I'm going to back his stablemate Sir Lunchalottm who will get this trip, for a place at about 2.4 and hope to trade out in running    Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 08 Dec 10 12:48
Silence Is Bliss not proven over this far so I'm going to back his stablemate Sir Lunchalott who will get this trip, for a place at about 2.4 and hope to trade out in running

We now know that Silence Is Bliss definitely stays this far as he won it. I never watched the race, but he did drift out to 8/1 in running. [smiley:crazy]

Sir Lunchalott got as low as 2.2 for the frame. I took my stake back, but no profit.
By:
mr winkle
When: 08 Dec 10 13:07
1-40 Lingfield       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS
       
100    -    Decider
99    -    Brandywell Boy
99    -    Wanchai Whisper
87    -    Spic 'n Span
85    -    Sharp Shoes
83    -    Flow Chart
82    -    Bobs Dreamflight
82    -    Flaxen Lake
       
non runners       
93    -    Jolly Ranch
91    -    Crazy Parachute
       
Pretty tight at the top of the weights, Decider just edges it due to the 7 pound claimer on board, but he can only muster 2 places in 7 races here.
       
Brandywell Boy drops into this low grade for the first time and has 3 wins and 7 places from 18 races to his name here.
       
Wanchai Whisper will be held up but his record at this course is not that good.
       
Spic 'n Span has won 3 times and been placed 7 times on Fibresand in 18 races at Southwell, but has no wins here or at Wolverhampton in 14 races on polytrack.
       
After taking all things into consideration [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy] - I will lay Spic 'n Span in the win market.
By:
mr winkle
When: 08 Dec 10 18:18
Brandywell Boy
pushed along to track leaders, carried wide bend into straight 2f out, ridden and headway entering final furlong, stayed on to lead post

Wanchai Whisper
held up, headway over 1f out, ridden to lead inside final furlong, headed post.

Spic n Span
led, ridden over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, no extra near finish

^^^ finished 5th Happy
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Dec 10 09:07
COMPETITION RULES

ALL SELECTIONS MUST BE NAMED

RACECARD NUMBERS WILL BE IGNORED

SCORING

Handicaps - 16 or more runners

Winner - 4 points
2nd - 3 points
3rd - 2 points
4th - 1 point

Races of 8 to 15 runners and non-handicaps of 16 runners and over
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points
3rd - 1 point

Races of 5 to 7 runners
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points

Races of 4 runners or less
Winner - 3 points

It's all about PLACES

You get the above scores PLUS 1 point for each point of S.P. for a horse in the frame

EXAMPLES :

BARBER SHOP COMES SECOND IN THE GOLD CUP AT 20/1

then its 2 points for coming second & 20 for the SP - total = 22 Points

DENMAN COMES 4TH IN THE GRAND NATIONAL AT 16/1

then it’s 1 point for 4th plus 16 for the SP - total = 17 Points

KAUTO STAR WINS THE KING GEORGE CHASE AT EVENS

then its 3 points for winning & 1 for the SP - total = 4 Points

NON-RUNNERS

In the event of selecting a non-runner you will be on the S.P. favourite

In the case of co/joint favourites, you will be on the beast with the lowest racecard number


NON-RUNNERS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF


BONUS POINTS
Are awarded for the following
FIRST 4 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME - 10 POINTS
FIRST 5 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME - 20 POINTS
FIRST 6 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME - 50 POINTS

NAP OF THE DAY

A CHANCE TO DOUBLE YOUR POINTS ON ONE HORSE

MARK YOUR DAILY NAP EACH DAY FOR DOUBLE POINTS

Your nap SHOULD be in the same post as your normal selections.

Failure to post your NAP with your selections means that your NAP will be taken as your selection in the first race.

If your NAP does not run, you revert to the NON RUNNER RULES, but you will get DOUBLE POINTS if the favourite gets placed.

Naps CANNOT be changed once the first race is off
By:
squares
When: 09 Dec 10 11:37
Morning all,

hope you're all well.

Pumphol - is it in the run up to Crimbo you get those picture quizzes sent to you?  Give me a shout (easy to find me on xf) if you are posting any on here.

They're usually quite good.
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Dec 10 13:17
Hi Thomas
Yes it is usually around now that my friend does it but perhaps he is to busy.
I have won it the last two years ( well with a lot of help from forumites ) but I reckon if I have not heard anything by monday it wont be happening.
Will post on here or put a thread up if it happens.
Good luck with the specials & dont forget the placepot comp omorrow ( if its on )
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 13:21
When I looked early this morning Cheltenham were 1.04 to race tomorrow, yet there were no markets on Betfair for tomorrows cards. [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 13:23
1-40  Wolverhampton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATI
NGS       
100    -    Ebraam
94    -    Monte Major
91    -    Avonvalley
90    -    Dancing Freddy
89    -    Elfstorm
86    -    The Tatling
69    -    Brazilian Brush
non-runners       
81    -    Dancing Wave
70    -    Bluebok
       
The Tatling is a grand old servant but has only got 2 places to his name in 7 runs here.
       
Dancing Freddy has won over 5 furlongs elsewhere and has 2 places from 3 runs here    
   
Brazilian Brush was rated, and won, as high as 72 a couple of years ago, but has shown nothing worthwhile for a long while .
       
       
The other 4 all have winning form here       
Ebraam is the short priced favourite and has 4 wins and 4 places from 17 runs here
       
Avonvalley has 1 win and 1 place from 2 runs
       
Elfstorms 9 runs have gained 2 wins and a place   
   
Which leaves Monte Major, who has had 35 races here, winning 8 times and getting placed in 13. His latst two runs have been in handicaps, and with todays rider claiming 7 pounds, must have a great chance of making the frame.
       
This is a 7 hoss race now, but there were 9 this morning, so it pays the first 3 places and anything over 2.5 looks value for an in-running trade Happy
By:
squares
When: 09 Dec 10 13:30
cheers pumphol
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 13:37
Monte Major drifting like a barge Sad
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 13:49
Monte Major drifting like a barge Sad



'They knew' - stone last  - never put in the race Cry
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Dec 10 13:52
Guess whatI backed Monte for a place !
By:
curious-cat
When: 09 Dec 10 13:54
Varsity rugby match starting at 2pm.

on sky sports 1 Grin
By:
curious-cat
When: 09 Dec 10 14:02
Teams

Oxford University: J Crozier (Colchester RGS & Kellogg);
L Fenwick (MGS Christchurch & University),
S Morris (Westcliff HS & Somerville),
A Cheesman (RGS High Wycombe & St Edmund Hall),
L Jones (Reading Blue Coat School & St Edmund Hall);
C Marr (King’s College, Taunton & Brasenose),
N Haydon (King’s, Sydney & University, capt);
H Macdonald (Leeds GS & Wadham),
G Oliver (Worksop College & Green Templeton),
W Kane (Skinners’ School & Merton),
T Evans (Christ College, Brecon & St Hugh’s),
K Outen (Guildford GS & St Edmund Hall),
D ****ss (Canberra GS & Keble),
L Mather (KCS Wimbledon & University),
S McKeen (St George’s, Vancouver & Harris Manchester).
Subs: A Connor (Ermysted’s GS & Keble), L Anderson (Bexley GS & University), A Rowe (Queen’s College, Taunton & Queen’s), I Swan (Christ College, Brecon & Kellogg), J Mather (Abingdon School & Lady Margaret Hall), H ****ss (Radford College, Canberra & St Anthony’s), T Yusef (Millfield School & University), J Wisson (Dulwich College & St Anne’s).

Cambridge University:
J Richards (Rondebosch HS, Cape Town & Hughes Hall, capt);
I Cherezov (Bedford School & St John’s),
F Burdon (RGS Newcastle & St John’s),
P Loudon (Edinburgh Academy & St Edmund’s),
R Stevens (Wellington College & Jesus);
G Cushing (Stowe School & Ridley Hall),
S Hunt (Fettes College & Girton);
N Conlon (Royal Belfast Academical Institution & St Edmund’s),
J Gilbert (Robert Gordon’s, Aberdeen & St Edmund’s),
S Brown (Lancaster RGS & Clare),
T Harrington (King’s School, Parramatta & Wolfson),
C Baird (RGS High Wycombe & St John’s),
J Kururangi (St Kentigern College, Auckland & St Edmund’s),
T Stanton (Stowe School & St John’s),
B Maidment (Brighton College & St Edmund’s).
Subs: C Hall (Whitgift School & St John’s), A Daniel (RGS High Wycombe & St Edmund’s), T Harris (Tiffin School & Churchill), S Annett (Methodist College, Belfast & Clare), B Martin (King Edward VI Five Ways & St Catharine’s), M Daly (Whitgift School & Jesus), M ****ss-King (Upper Canada College, Toronto & St Catharine’s), W Briggs (Bedford School & Magdalene).
Referee: A Small What (Dunstable).
By:
curious-cat
When: 09 Dec 10 14:04
G uin ness starred out
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 14:12
pumphol.  09 Dec 10 13:52 
Guess what. I backed Monte for a place !


BOKIST
REPORTED
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 15:51
4-00 Kempton               
               
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS
               
100    -    Golden Shine        
93    -    Johnny Han****        
89    -    Mini Bon Bon         
88    -    Instructress        
82    -    Miss Toldyaso        
81    -    Fairy Tales        
74    -    Majestic Ridge        
73    -    Shutupandrive   
    
non-runner               
71    -    Walshtown Lad   

Golden Shine stands out at the weights and after I backed it at 1.7 it went as low as 1.47, afterwards, then for some reaon, drifted to over  1.9 for a place last night. It's now back to 1.55.

I hope it runs better then Monte Major did earlier. Sad

Misstoldyaso is far too short at 6.0 imo and should be layed if you're brave enough.
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 15:59
Golden Shine stands out at the weights and after I backed it at 1.7 it went as low as 1.47, afterwards, then for some reaon, drifted to over  1.9 for a place last night. It's now back to 1.55.

1.3 now !!!
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 16:02
Got as low as 1.14 in running, thank feck. Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 09 Dec 10 16:04
Just noticed that it was backed down to 13/8 favourite, a lot of wonga went astray there.
By:
man of many moods
When: 09 Dec 10 16:11
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