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By:
panglima
When: 17 Nov 10 19:11
Cheers Dave
I was told a week back they were keeping it freelance & as that was not quoted I did not take it any further.
By:
panglima
When: 17 Nov 10 19:13
Been waiting many months for a horse to run at Ayr on heavy ground where it is a course specialist, had it off 2 1/2 years ago with the same horse  at that track & its  down to a winning mark now, ran today at Hexham  on heavy ground & it dead heated at 40/1 CryCryCry
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 17 Nov 10 19:14
okay. spoils have just taken their market down.
By:
curious-cat
When: 17 Nov 10 19:30
pumps

that 40/1 dd heater traded at 1.05 in the photo finish market, before drifting to maybe 1.2

it certainly looked as if it had won outright.
By:
panglima
When: 17 Nov 10 22:35
I saw that C-C
I cleaned up on that horse a couple of years back & would have had a real go if it  had carried on with recent form before running at Ayr, back to the drawing board.
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Nov 10 13:09
1.00 Hereford

1st Tiptronic 100-1        betfair sp 360
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Nov 10 13:10
1.01      £4,606                           
1.02     £1,195                       
1.03     £1,499                       
1.04     £10,203     £24,480           
1.05                  £53,604           
1.06                  £38,387           
1.07                  £22,947           
1.08                  £8,193           
1.09                  £16,712           
1.10                  £34,889           
1.11                  £974           
1.12                  £184           
1.13                  £70           
1.14                  £266           
1.15                  £205           
1.16                  £49           
1.17                  £382           
1.18                  £28           
1.20                  £844           
1.21                  £455           
1.22                  £431           
1.25                  £451           
1.30                  £857           
1.31                  £2,529           
1.32                  £100           
1.33                  £180           
1.34                  £757           
1.36                  £441           
1.37                  £36           
1.38                  £36           
1.39                  £800           
1.40                  £162           
1.41                  £89           
1.45                  £13           
1.50                  £203           
1.51                  £1,346           
1.52                  £718           
1.53                  £112           
1.54                  £394           
1.55                  £1,716           
1.56                  £1,440           
1.57                  £15           
1.58                  £191           
1.59                  £0           
1.60                  £1,570           
1.61                  £2,078           
1.62                  £2,611           
1.63                  £99           
1.64                  £209           
1.65                  £103           
1.66                  £149           
1.67                  £145           
1.70                  £328           
1.71                  £83           
1.72                  £158           
1.74                  £312           
1.75                  £63           
1.80                  £638           
1.81                  £1,138           
1.82                  £25           
1.83                  £22           
1.84                  £56           
1.87                  £19           
1.90                  £44           
1.91                  £10           
1.93                  £31           
1.94                  £1,138           
1.98                  £272           
1.99                  £50           
2.00                  £9,177           
2.02                  £2,484           
2.04                  £1,547           
2.06                  £221           
2.08                  £200           
2.10                  £278           
2.12                  £444           
2.14                  £69           
2.16                  £46           
2.18                  £8           
2.20                  £82           
2.24                  £376           
2.26                  £100           
2.28                  £67           
2.30                  £228           
2.32                  £1,224           
2.34                  £23           
2.40                  £159           
2.42                  £10           
2.48                  £76           
2.50                  £338           
2.52                  £529           
2.54                  £63           
2.56                  £7           
2.64                  £150           
2.66                  £184           
2.72                  £66           
2.80                  £67           
2.82                  £7           
2.88                  £21           
2.98                  £139           
3.00                  £257           
3.05                  £1,064           
3.10                  £1,411           
3.15                  £35           
3.20                  £173           
3.25                  £37           
3.30                  £436           
3.35                  £111           
3.40                  £144           
3.50           £16     £187           
3.55                  £38           
3.60                  £127           
3.65                  £479           
3.70                  £0           
3.80                  £10           
4.00                  £1,295           
4.10                  £48           
4.20                  £100           
4.30                  £14           
4.40                  £127           
4.50                  £78           
4.60                  £46           
4.70                  £23           
4.90                  £11           
5.00                  £41           
5.10                  £21           
5.30                  £91           
5.40                  £101           
5.50                  £129           
5.60                  £18           
5.70                  £11           
5.90                  £10           
6.00                  £658           
6.20                  £58           
6.40                  £2           
6.60                  £91           
6.80                  £10           
7.00                  £584           
7.20                  £135           
7.40                  £78           
7.60                  £36           
8.00                  £139           
9.80                  £5           
10.00                  £1,054           
10.50                  £5           
11.00                  £986           
11.50                  £5           
12.00                  £62           
12.50                  £11           
13.00                  £46           
14.00                  £0           
15.00                  £10           
15.50                  £4           
16.00                  £23           
17.00                  £122           
18.00                  £4           
18.50                  £18           
20.00                  £178           
22.00                  £80           
23.00                  £17           
26.00                  £29           
29.00                  £4           
30.00                  £4           
38.00                  £18           
40.00                  £8           
50.00                  £67           
55.00                  £129           
60.00                  £45           
65.00                  £12           
70.00                  £25           
75.00                  £52           
80.00                  £3           
85.00                  £20           
100.00                  £6           
120.00                  £70           
150.00                  £4           
170.00                  £4           
180.00                  £8           
190.00                  £3           
200.00                  £36           
210.00                  £3           
220.00                  £9           
230.00                  £1           
250.00                  £14           
260.00                  £10           
300.00                  £0           
310.00                  £66           
320.00                  £34           
330.00                  £22           
340.00                  £354           
350.00                  £659           
360.00                  £50     £24     £7,907
370.00                  £292           
380.00                  £22           
390.00                  £11           
400.00                  £49           
410.00                  £61           
420.00                  £52           
430.00                  £5           
440.00                  £13           
450.00                  £39           
460.00                  £17           
470.00                  £72           
480.00                  £19           
490.00                  £64           
500.00                  £68           
510.00                  £4           
530.00                  £16           
550.00                  £8           
560.00                  £3           
570.00                  £2           
580.00                  £4           
590.00           £2             £11           
600.00                  £107           
620.00                  £9           
640.00           £3                 
790.00                  £0
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Nov 10 13:39
Market      Start time      Settled date      Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Thurl 18th Nov : 2m6f Hcap Chs     18-Nov-10 13:15     18-Nov-10 13:26     38.61
Horse Racing / MrktR 18th Nov : 2m3f Claim Hrd     18-Nov-10 13:10     18-Nov-10 13:20     21.02
Horse Racing / Here 18th Nov : 2m1f Juv Hrd     18-Nov-10 13:00     18-Nov-10 13:08     -46.50
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.

having an exciting time so far today Grin

I don't usually make those kind of losses or wins these days ......... I try to eke a profit in every race but picked the wrong race to back Alan King and Paul Nicholls horses ( I had backed the drifting fav at 1.7 this morning - 2.7 when I looked before the off - so decided to back the market mover as well Cry )
By:
curious-cat
When: 18 Nov 10 15:27
Gary O'Brien is doing well (ATR)

JUST TIPPED A 7-1 WINNER AT THURLES

advised at 6-1 ew Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 18 Nov 10 17:28
5-10 Wolverhampton Thursday
       
WINKLES WEIGHTS       
100    -    Humour Me Rene

88    -    Lauberhorn
85    -    Mary Helen
84    -    Half Sister
63    -    Little Buddy
not rated    -    Broughtons Bandit
       
At the weights Humour Me Rene has a huge advantage       
       
Going by the SL forecast prices I thought it would be about 2/1, but it's odds on


Went as high as 2.92 for small change, I settled for 2.06 Happy

it was hammered down to 1.65 BF SP

Course price 1-2.
By:
mr winkle
When: 19 Nov 10 14:36
Saturday night at Wolverhampton.

This horse is clear at the weights, has run here 6 times, winning twice and placed 4 times.

This is basement level stuff for a horse that has run in group 2 and group 3 races this year and also placed in Class 2 handicaps.

Sporting Life have it as 9/4 on their webpage,I think it will be more like 5/4.

No Betfair market up yet, so not named yet Confused
By:
mr winkle
When: 20 Nov 10 13:38
Hoss is Dream Lodge

9/4 my facking ringpiece, it's 4/5.

Saturday 8-15       
Wolverhampton - claimer   
   
WINKLES WEIGHTS        
100    -    Dream Lodge
89    -    Ahlway
87    -    Cflymder
86    -    Mastership
85    -    Aviso
85    -    Farleigh
81    -    Cobo Bay
80    -    Shaluca
79    -    Fujin Dancer
78    -    Kildare Sun
73    -    Forbidden
70    -    Saving Grace
64    -    Mojeer
    -
By:
mr winkle
When: 20 Nov 10 13:40
100    -    Dream Lodge
87    -    Cflymder
86    -    Mastership
85    -    Farleigh
81    -    Cobo Bay
80    -    Shaluca
78    -    Kildare Sun
73    -    Forbidden
70    -    Saving Grace
64    -    Mojeer

non runners
85    -    Aviso
79    -    Fujin Dancer (tried to lay this last night)
89    -    Ahlway
By:
mr winkle
When: 20 Nov 10 13:57
100    -    Dream Lodge
86    -    Mastership
78    -    Kildare Sun
73    -    Forbidden

^^^^^^^ all course and distance winners

Cobo Bay
has won over this distance but not at this course
He has won at this course 3 times, but they were all over 7 furlongs. 
He has had 3 races over further than 7F here. He was 3rd once and out of the frame on the other 2 visits. This appears to be too far for him on that evidence, but he has won over 9 and 10 furlongs elsewhere. Puzzling to say the least. [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]

After summing up all the evidence [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy] I'm going to lay Cflymder as it has only ever run on an AW surface once before (April last year) and was beaten at Kempton.
By:
curious-cat
When: 20 Nov 10 21:49
1st (2) Cobo Bay 15/2
2nd (6) Cyflymder 9/2 2Fav
3rd (3) Mastership 6/1

ok ? Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 21 Nov 10 01:06
Yup Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 23 Nov 10 13:51
WINKLES WEIGHTS RATINGS               
100    -    Endaxi Mana Mou        
97    -    Mary Boyle        
90    -    Norton Girl        
86    -    Hannah Cann        
81    -    Callipygos        
77    -    Emperorsnewclothes        
66    -    Local Diktator        
               
               
Going to lay Norton Girl Cool               
               
and for some mad fun [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy] have a small place bet on Hannah Cann at 50 and hope to trade out

7 runners pays first 3 places due to non-runner.
By:
mr winkle
When: 23 Nov 10 14:14
Hannah Cann at 50 and hope to trade out

got as low as 20 Happy

Going to lay Norton Gir

over 12 lengths behind the winner Happy
By:
curious-cat
When: 24 Nov 10 13:13
1.00 Lingf was a claimer.

Winkle - you've missed the chance of glory Sad

Lingfield 1.00    
1st     9 Lend A Grand (IRE)     66-1
2nd     2 Everymanforhimself .    5-2
3rd     1 Caprio (IRE) .......    13-2
Winning Trainer A J Martin
Winning Jockey D N Russell
Runners 5 ran
           SF £214.70
Winning Trainer Miss Jo Crowley
Winning Jockey I Mongan
Unpl. Fav Samarinda 2-1 fav
Runners 11 ran
Non runners 5, 13, 14
By:
curious-cat
When: 24 Nov 10 13:14
1.00 Lingf was a claimer.

Winkle - you've missed the chance of glory Sad

Lingfield 1.00   
1st     9 Lend A Grand (IRE)     66-1
2nd     2 Everymanforhimself .    5-2
3rd     1 Caprio (IRE) ..........    13-2

           SF £214.70
Winning Trainer Miss Jo Crowley
Winning Jockey I Mongan
Unpl. Fav Samarinda 2-1 fav
Runners 11 ran
Non runners 5, 13, 14
By:
panglima
When: 24 Nov 10 16:13
Afternoon all

Thomas gave me Najca De Thaix in 2005
I wonder if he was on today Silly
By:
mr winkle
When: 24 Nov 10 17:40
PLACEPOT THREAD FOR THURSDAY TO SATURDAY

NEWBURY
By:
mr winkle
When: 25 Nov 10 11:39
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS               
100 - Matsunosuke...................1.8
88 - Abbodanza......................9.5
86 - Excusez Moi...................12.5
79 - Kersivay......................24
75 - Spin Agin.....................16
73 - Titus Gent.....................6.6
68 - Estonia.......................80
64 - Morgans Choice................85
60 - Stonecrabstomorrow............160
54 - Tag Team.......................48
               
               
               
67 - Sharp Shoes - non runner       
               
               
Matsunosuke looks a good thing at the weights                
The slightly offputting thing about him is that Luke Morris has ridden him in lots of races, including 4 of his last 5,  but he's on Estonia today, and Jake Payne, who takes the ride, has only ridden in 3 races, and he may get stitched up by other jockeys tactics unless he makes all the running.
               
If you want to back him I'd advise waiting for a furlong to see where he sits in the field.

I'm going to lay Titus Gent and have a small place bet om Kersivay, hopefully at about 5.5 as there's not a red cent on him yet Sad and hope to trade in running. Happy



3 sellers/claimers tomorrow - this time next year we'll be mill yun airz [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]
By:
mr winkle
When: 25 Nov 10 11:40
^^^^ BF current prices on the right
By:
mr winkle
When: 25 Nov 10 16:51
Matsunosuke was a non runner

I'm going to lay Titus Gent and have a small place bet om Kersivay, hopefully at about 5.5 as there's not a red cent on him yet Sad and hope to trade in running.

Titus Gent 15/8 fav, and nowhere.

Kersivay 3rd

Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 26 Nov 10 12:33
12-50 Lingfield       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS       
100    -    Robby Bobby
100    -    Traphalgar
96    -    Wyeth
93    -    Mezarat
93    -    Sea Tobougie
88    -    Purse Strings
84    -    Oak Leaves
78    -    All About You
74    -    Hatch A Plan
66    -    Cragganmore Creek
not rated    -    Poesmulligan
       
Although level at the weights, the scales tip in favour of Traphalgar for me       
       
Robby Bobby has just gone to Mongans yard after leaving Mark Johnston, and as those who read this rubbish are aware, I don't touch anything to do with Johnston Laugh       
       
This looks too short for Wyeth, who had  won twice over 2 miles on the flat.     Won an amateur riders maiden handicap 2 years ago over 13 furlongs, then 13 days later won a 2 mile hurdle race at Plumpton   
       
Mezarat has only raced twice, and at 5 isn't going to be any great shakes, but after his first run, where he was, shall we say...'enterprisingly ridden' by a female  amateur (her only ride to date) at 18/1, made headway 3 out and faded after that when it mattered. Nonetheless,  the beast was backed down to 15/8 favouritism at Southwell 14 days later, and with Andrea Atzeni in the saddle,  floundered into 4th in a 10 horse affair.
       
Perhaps Polytrack may suit it better than Fibresand.        
       
Summing up,  it's Traphalgar for me Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 26 Nov 10 13:40
Summing up,  it's Traphalgar, for me

Happy
By:
curious-cat
When: 26 Nov 10 14:30
wd Happy

12.50    
1st     7 Traphalgar     10-3
2nd     1 Mezarat      7-2
3rd     6 Robby Bobby     9-4 F
By:
mr winkle
When: 27 Nov 10 17:10
6-20 Wolverhampton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS

       
100    -    Sworn Tigress
98    -    High Five Society
82    -    Magic Spirit
81    -    Forbidden
80    -    New Beginning
77    -    Jibrrya
76    -    Special Cuvee
72    -    Tenhoo
67    -    Spares And Repairs
65    -    Sams Spirit
63    -    Jack Jicaro
not rated    -    Mon Mon
not rated    -    Too Late Jones

After the  first two in the ratings it's much of a muchness about the rest.

If you had a horse who doesn't go the early pace in his races, but thunders home when he gets going, and on his only previous run at this course he was 13th of 13, you wouldn't run him here again would you.

Neither would I, [smiley:crazy]  but Special Cuvee is here again tonight, for the first time since December 2009. His rider is Catherine Gannon, who got him into 2nd  last time out at Southwell 11 days ago, over a furlong shorter. It's her only ride at the meeting, and at about 4.5 is worth a small bet in the place market

The only problem with this horse is that you may not be able to trade out until he starts to motor in the last part of the race - IF HE DOES !!!

And most BF layers know he will run on late, so you won't get a much bigger price after they've covered half a mile either.

As one of my old mates used to sayL

'I'm going in, sh1t or bust, never let your bollocks, dangle in the dust'

Laugh [smiley:crazy] Cool
By:
mr winkle
When: 27 Nov 10 17:25
7-20 Wolverhampton   
   
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS   


100    -
89    -
85    -
70    -
66    -
60    -
58    -
53    -
   
The front two in the betting should be the first two home in this affair, but something has to come third.    
   
Ella Grace is a weak finisher, and at 1.7 for a place is worth laying as it can't do a lot of damage to your wallet if she does decide to get placed.

Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 27 Nov 10 17:26
errr...
By:
mr winkle
When: 27 Nov 10 17:26
7-20 Wolverhampton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS


LaughLaughLaughLaugh
       
100    -    Majuro
89    -    Orchard Supreme
85    -    Ella Grace
70    -    Chifah
66    -    Kirkbys Gem
60    -    Saving Grace
58    -    Whispering Ridge
53    -    Old Firm
By:
mr winkle
When: 27 Nov 10 19:35
Special Cuvee - out the back - as predicted Happy
started to run on 3 out - as predicted  Happy
never made the frame - NOT as predicted Sad
==============================================================================
Ella Grace may be a weak finisher, but those behind her were facking dire - the 4th hoss was 6 lengths away from Ella Grace. Sad

Diamond Harry winnings  - all gone Cry
By:
panglima
When: 27 Nov 10 19:36
Sad
By:
curious-cat
When: 27 Nov 10 20:24
PUMPHOL

re your suspicions concerning Stretch Armstrong

- he has totally disrupted a thread about a film which I suppose you've seen

'Tonight Saturday - 8pm on Channel 312 - (Indie) - a Film worth seeing.'
- Scissors

'Life Is Beautiful' is the film which is about a Jewish father and his son in a concentration camp.
By:
mr winkle
When: 29 Nov 10 14:26
2-45 Wolverhampton       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS
       
100    -    The Big Hearth
93    -    I Confess
92    -    Lockantanks
92    -    Cheshire Lady
89    -    Landucci
88    -    Fol Liam
87    -    Apache Ridge
87    -    Rebellious Spirit
       
non -runners       
92    -    Spin Again
82    -    Craicattack
74    -    Old Firm
83    -    Carnival Dream

Not as clear cut as it looks for the fav. in my opinion.        
I'm going to oppose it with small bets on I Confess and Fol Liam at MASSIVE prices
By:
mr winkle
When: 29 Nov 10 14:49
Not as clear cut as it looks for the fav. in my opinion.       
I'm going to oppose it with small bets on I Confess and Fol Liam at MASSIVE prices

KERRRRCHING

22.0 to 15.5 before the off Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 29 Nov 10 15:42
3-50       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS   
   
100    -    Sheilas Star
98    -    Boogie Star
97    -    A Liitte Bit Dusty
91    -    Countrywide Flame
91    -    Bathwick Nero
88    -    Senor Sassi
not rated    -   
       
Sheilas Star is the only course and distance winner in the field.    
       
The rest of the field muster 2 wins and 4 places between them in 31 races.    
       
Boogies Stars form is hopeless, he finished 8 lengths behind Sheilas Star last time out, so what he's doing here again is anybodys guess.

But at these weights he has a slim chance of nicking 2nd from the others     
       
And at 13 for a place is worth a small bet, to hopefully trade out for a profit of a sheckel or two along the way. Happy
By:
mr winkle
When: 30 Nov 10 00:22
5th, or 3rd from last, they're equally as bad as each other, at 33/1. Sad
By:
mr winkle
When: 30 Nov 10 12:41
1-15 Lingfield       
       
WINKLES WEIGHT RATINGS
       
100    -    Ebraam
96    -    Matsunosuke
94    -    Lewyn
93    -    Brandywell Boy
88    -    Silaah
84    -    Wanchai Whisper
80    -    Dancing Freddy
64    -    The Magic Of Rio
63    -    Hatman Jack
        
There's a surprise !! The evens favourite isn't top rated. [smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy][smiley:crazy]       
       
I shall have a place bet on Ebraam at about 3.1, who should travel well enough to trade out for a sheckel or two profit Happy
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