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By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jan 19 19:15
Evening Shane.

I'm not betting atm. Just doing my homework.

I had a look at HT's selections out of curiosity. I don't like following other people's selections but will be doing some further analysis of his.

Hope all is well with you.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 25 Jan 19 19:25
Good thanks nick.

Off to London for the weekend, hopefully weather stays good.

I`ve come across some lays shall we say, so far so good. 10 from 11 lost, winner was 3/1.

Also, working on a new lay system, partly there.
By:
pumphol.
When: 25 Jan 19 21:42
Hi guys Cool

Thanks again Shane, have a good wekend.
Nick someone on another thread was saying HT had not had a winner this month !
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jan 19 22:06
I don't know Pump. I'll have a look when his selections for the month are on the ATR site at the end of the month.

Enjoy the weekend Shane. I think the forecast says dry and mild for the weekend.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jan 19 22:20
...I was aware HT had a big reputation and a lot of followers.

I assume you can forget about getting on at the advised prices (although they occasionally hold up) so I was curious to know how he fares at BSP given the money that must be going on his selections.
By:
pumphol.
When: 25 Jan 19 22:49
Would love to know his sp profit compared to the profit from advertised prices
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jan 19 22:53
Oct-Dec 2018 is a 4.09 loss at ISP.
By:
pumphol.
When: 25 Jan 19 23:28
what was his advertised profit that period
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jan 19 23:42
Profit at advised prices: +55.50 pts

It's probably slightly lower because there were probably a couple of wins with NRs.

Also, it won't be the same as on the ATR site as he's done a few at 2ts win, some at 1pt ew an the occasional double.

I've just calculated all selections at 1pt win.
By:
pumphol.
When: 26 Jan 19 09:46
huge difference though Shocked
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 28 Jan 19 15:31
Shane - hope you had a good weekend.

WD with the lays. Just noticed them today. Cool
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Feb 19 10:51
Stat of the day:


Two-year-olds out of mares sired by Verglas have one just once from 81 attempts on the AW (GB only).
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Feb 19 10:57
Compare with 2yo's on the turf:

35/217 (16.7%)
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Feb 19 15:15
Blimey Nick !

What's running today to lay Wink
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Feb 19 15:56
Nothing today but a small W & P on Russian Realm in the 4.10 for me.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Feb 19 16:23
Last Cry
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Feb 19 16:41
Sad
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Feb 19 16:42
Ok my turn to pick one

Argus  4.45 Silly
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Feb 19 16:58
WD Cool

But I've only just read your post. Cry


Going back to Verglas, I wouldn't lay anything just on the basis of that stat. I've been looking at a lot of damsire stats recently and they can be all over the place.

Eg, if a damsire's runners improve from 2 to 3 on the turf, they often don't on the AW whereas sire stats do seem to do the same in both cases.

I suppose you'd kind of expect that though with the damsire being just one of four ancestors in a horse's 2nd generation pedigree.
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Feb 19 17:03
sorry it was a late post Sad
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 21 Feb 19 19:25
Another interesting damsire stat:

Kingmambo 2yo's over 5 - 5.5f: 1 winner from 51 runs (1 from 22 unique runners).

The winner's SP was 9/4. Average SP of all runners 11.3/1
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 21 Feb 19 23:24
Evening gents, hope you`re both well. Been working on a lay system over the last 3/4 months. Ready to go live with it next week. So bound to be loads of winners CryCry
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Feb 19 23:25
post em on here Shane Silly
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Feb 19 06:59
The kiss of death awaits me, will do pumps Grin
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Feb 19 12:46
1.30 Printing Dollars
2.05 Dragon D`estruval
3.45 Annie Mc

All lays.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 22 Feb 19 12:49
GL Shane.

I seem to recall you did well with your lays last month.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Feb 19 14:14
It got off to a great start nick. Along the lines of 25pts profit in just over 2 weeks, weakened after but still a point a day profit is the aim.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Feb 19 14:21
March 1st i go live with real funds on here.

I`ve had some great success in the past and some spectacular disasters. I`m hoping to avoid the extremes Grin
By:
pumphol.
When: 22 Feb 19 14:28
Just got in so missed the first two I'll lay the last one
By:
panglima
When: 22 Feb 19 17:20
Shane Cool
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Feb 19 18:36
I`m currently working on an AW laying system, any input would be appreciated.

As a young man i would be out drinking and chasing girls, now i`m poring over the AW with a cup of tea....
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Feb 19 18:37
On a Friday night i should say.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 23 Feb 19 09:36
Stat of the day:


Two-year-olds by Casamento have won just once from 70 runs on the GB AW (1.4%).

3yo+ AW 27/261 (10.3%)
2yo turf 15/151 (9.9%)
By:
pumphol.
When: 23 Feb 19 09:58
Any qualifiers Nick ?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 23 Feb 19 11:30
Two-year-olds, so definitely nothing for at least another few weeks.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 23 Feb 19 11:42
I find systems interesting but don't necessarily like following them blindly.

For instance, if you had a system with four conditions which identified a horse which satisfied three criteria and marginally failed to qualify on the fourth, would you back it if it was 25-1?
By:
pumphol.
When: 23 Feb 19 12:06
At that  price almost certainly yes
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 23 Feb 19 13:51
I am facing a similar problem nick, where to draw the final line on price. Early results showed no shorter than 6/4, last month odds on showed a good profit.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 23 Feb 19 13:59
Samburu Shojaa 3.40 Lay
Capeland 4.15 Lay
Kavanaghs Corner 4.50 Lay
Talk Is Cheap 3.35 Lay
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 23 Feb 19 18:27
One winner 5/4, my win nap came 2nd at 20/1 isp same race SadSad
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