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By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 07 Jul 16 18:16
Thanks.

Was still widely available at 11/1 around midday. Came in to about 11/2, then the Wesley Ward horse was withdrawn which was about 4/1.

Ryan Moore said that the favourite, Believalble would probably need the run, which also didn't help.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 07 Jul 16 18:23
GL with Diamond Geyser. (I napped it LTO.)
By:
pumphol.
When: 07 Jul 16 20:36
Nearly left a blank day but just in case I need them later in the month
Annoying when sp is returned 4/1 especially when it was double figures when you posted
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 07 Jul 16 22:01
Looking like Dubai Hero for me tomorrow. He's got a lot going for him but still some work to do on the other runners and the maidens at this meeting take a bit of winning.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 07 Jul 16 23:02
I don't like doing write-ups for fear of making myself look stupid, but...

Dob 25 Feb. First foal. The dam won fto over 7f as a 2yo. In its 2yo season it won twice over 7.5f and also won a G3 over a mile. Following season beaten 7.5L in the Coronation Cup (OR 103). Also half-sister to four winners.

The sire, Dark Angel, has gained an excellent reputation. Dubai Hero cost a substantial 100,000gns as a yearling against a stud fee of £10k. (Has now risen to £50k.) Furthermore, Dark Angel's 2yo's had a FTO win rate of over 17% in 2015.

SBS's 2yo's also had a FTO win rate of over 17% last year and in many seasons has been well over 20%. He's 25% at Newmarket with 2yos over the last five years and with James Doyle on board, I've taken the 9.4 on here.
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jul 16 18:05
Nick CoolCoolCool


Never saw your post as I would have backed it ShockedCrazy
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 08 Jul 16 18:45
Thanks Pump. Can't complain about the price today. Happy

That should be enough to keep me in the division.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 08 Jul 16 18:49
Roibeard turned over at Navan - 1/6. Shocked
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 08 Jul 16 20:26
Had a quick look at tomorrow's maiden and at first glance I like Dubara. Might do a write-up later.
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jul 16 22:26
Might back this one Wink

Said to myself I would not look at the two big hcps tomorrow

Could not help myself, at York 4.15 Earth Drummer 20/1 I might be mad but I may well nap it Silly
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 08 Jul 16 23:29
Based on the dam's side of the pedigree, I'm now thinking Dubara might need further. Although Dubawi's do ok over 7f, they aren't particularly precocious. Also, not an early foal (dob May 1).

Given the odds, pedigree* and a birth date of Feb 16, I will plump for Pichola Dance. Distorted Humor doesn't have many runners in Britain but in 2014 had 7 2yo runners; 5 won of which 2 won FTO.


*Dam is an unraced sister to 4 winners including:

Sequoya (dam of Henrythnavigator) won twice over 7f as a 2yo (both GF) including the G1 Moyglare Stud Stakes. Beaten only 1.75 L in G1 Nell Gwyn. Ran 4 times as a 3yo all G1 (OR 116).

Listen won FTO over 6f; 2nd G1 Moyglare and won the Meon Valley Stud Filiies' Mile (all 2yo). OR 117 as a 3yo


Roger Varian hasn't done too well with debutantes recently but was 13.5% in 2013 and 20.9% in 2012.


GL tomorrow.
By:
pumphol.
When: 08 Jul 16 23:52
Sadly a band of rain will I think effect the going at York, could be g's by racetime would that alter your selection?
Unfortunately  it wont suit Earth Drummer Sad
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Jul 16 09:04
Sadly a band of rain will I think effect the going at York, could be g's by racetime would that alter your selection?
Unfortunately  it wont suit Earth Drummer


Currently GF at Newmkt with only a bit of rain fc.

York currently G with a lot of heavy rain fc between 10 and racetime.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Jul 16 16:59
HL with Earth Drummer.

Pichola Dance was disappointing.
By:
pumphol.
When: 10 Jul 16 00:05
Thanks Nick, could it have won without the rain ?
Who knows but it looked good ground to me regardless of the so called g/s ground
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 10 Jul 16 13:00
Wd with your nap yesterday. For some reason, I had it in my mind that your selection was in the 6.00 race.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 13 Jul 16 15:24
Nice nap on Monday.

GL with the longshot today.
By:
pumphol.
When: 24 Jul 16 10:29
SUPREME PLACEPOT COMPETITION 2016 - RULES

ALL SELECTIONS MUST BE NAMED

RACECARD NUMBERS WILL BE IGNORED  (unless you’re going on holiday and have asked for them)

SCORING
Handicaps - 16 or more runners

Winner - 4 points
2nd - 3 points
3rd - 2 points
4th - 1 point

Races of 8 to 15 runners and non-handicaps of 16 runners and over
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points
3rd - 1 point

Races of 5 to 7 runners
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points

Races of 4 runners or less
Winner - 3 points

It's all about PLACES

You get the above scores PLUS 1 point for each point of S.P. for a horse in the frame

EXAMPLES :
THE THINKER COMES SECOND IN THE GOLD CUP AT 20/1

then it's 2 points for coming second & 20 for the SP - total = 22 Points

DENMAN COMES 4TH IN THE GRAND NATIONAL AT 16/1

then it’s 1 point for 4th plus 16 for the SP - total = 17 Points

KAUTO STAR WINS THE KING GEORGE CHASE AT EVENS

then its 3 points for winning & 1 for the SP - total = 4 Points

NON-RUNNERS 
In the event of selecting a non-runner you will be on the S.P. favourite
In the case of co/joint favourites, you will be on the beast with the lowest racecard number


NON-RUNNERS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF

BONUS POINTS
Are awarded for the following
FIRST 4 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 10 POINTS
FIRST 5 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 20 POINTS
FIRST 6 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 50 POINTS

YOU CAN LOSE POINTS
You will be deducted 5 points if  ALL your selections are NOT posted BEFORE the first race goes off

MORE BONUS POINTS - NAP OF THE DAY
MARK YOUR DAILY NAP EACH DAY FOR DOUBLE POINTS 
Your nap SHOULD be in the same post as your normal selections

If your NAP does not run, you revert to the NON-RUNNER RULES, but you will get DOUBLE POINTS if the favourite gets placed

NAPS can be changed by posting up to the first race on any day.

NAPS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF

PODIUM PLACES - NEW STRUCTURE THIS YEAR

Regardless of how many days there are at a meeting - whether it’s 1, 2,  3, 4 or 5:

Up to 44 runners  - Podium points will be awarded for the top 10

45 runners and over  -  Podium points will be awarded for the top 15

HOLIDAYS
A lot of players take part in EVERY placepot competition throughout the season as you really need to post in every competition to stay in the running

If you cannot gain computer access for any reason you may choose to enter while on holiday or on days out or know you will be suffering from a hangover by asking for any of the following :

Returned Favourites (subject to normal joint fav. and co.fav rules)

Racecard numbers (please leave enough time for these to be converted to names before the first race takes place

Top weights in all handicaps, along with racecard numbers for non-handicap races. In the event of joint top weights or non-runners you revert to favourite rules
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 25 Jul 16 17:20
Money for Thomas Girtin.

GL today.
By:
pumphol.
When: 27 Jul 16 00:47
Sorry Nick, missed your post Shocked

Gonna need a winner or I'm toast, at least you can go for it this month
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 27 Jul 16 10:18
All but the bottom five are in profit.

The way things are going, I could still go down if I don't get a winner.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 27 Jul 16 13:13
I napped Salouen yesterday but didn't back it. Changed my mind at the eleventh hour and backed the winner although the odds-on favourite was a very late withdrawal.

Today, I've napped, and backed, Suffragette City (also napped it LTO). Will be very disappointed if it doesn't run well.

GL today.
By:
pumphol.
When: 27 Jul 16 13:30
Cheers Nick, good luck as well, I have mailed you btw.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 27 Jul 16 16:36
Good call by those who put up Promising in your comp. Richard Hannon gave it a very positive write-up in my Two Year Olds book but I don't like backing his FTO.

Sorry for the aftertiming, but I did the same as yesterday and backed the winner 5 mins before the off. Thought I'd better back two if I was going against the fav.

GL in the 4.40
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 27 Jul 16 16:45
Pump Cool
By:
pumphol.
When: 27 Jul 16 16:52
Nick Wink

Pressure of me now,only just got in as well to see it.
By:
pumphol.
When: 06 Aug 16 19:01
Thanks for the 9/2 winner Nick Grin, much appreciated, sent mail from my phone but not 100% sure you got it.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 06 Aug 16 19:22
Bit of a price collapse on that but it didn't really matter in the end. EJH had nother winner the next day at Windsor in another 2yo maiden - 33/1Cry

Unfortunately, I could only muster a 13/8 winner this week.

No, I didn't get your email.
By:
pumphol.
When: 06 Aug 16 21:58
Sent from Italy, I had my doubts

Thanks for posting this week as well.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 10 Aug 16 12:56
Brilliant napping, Pump Cool

Must have paid for the holiday.Cool
By:
pumphol.
When: 13 Aug 16 19:32
Cheers Nick, never saw your post Blush
By:
pumphol.
When: 15 Aug 16 15:20
SUPREME PLACEPOT COMPETITION 2016 - RULES

ALL SELECTIONS MUST BE NAMED

RACECARD NUMBERS WILL BE IGNORED  (unless you’re going on holiday and have asked for them)

SCORING
Handicaps - 16 or more runners

Winner - 4 points
2nd - 3 points
3rd - 2 points
4th - 1 point

Races of 8 to 15 runners and non-handicaps of 16 runners and over
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points
3rd - 1 point

Races of 5 to 7 runners
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points

Races of 4 runners or less
Winner - 3 points

It's all about PLACES

You get the above scores PLUS 1 point for each point of S.P. for a horse in the frame

EXAMPLES :
THE THINKER COMES SECOND IN THE GOLD CUP AT 20/1

then it's 2 points for coming second & 20 for the SP - total = 22 Points

DENMAN COMES 4TH IN THE GRAND NATIONAL AT 16/1

then it’s 1 point for 4th plus 16 for the SP - total = 17 Points

KAUTO STAR WINS THE KING GEORGE CHASE AT EVENS

then its 3 points for winning & 1 for the SP - total = 4 Points

NON-RUNNERS 
In the event of selecting a non-runner you will be on the S.P. favourite
In the case of co/joint favourites, you will be on the beast with the lowest racecard number


NON-RUNNERS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF

BONUS POINTS
Are awarded for the following
FIRST 4 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 10 POINTS
FIRST 5 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 20 POINTS
FIRST 6 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 50 POINTS

YOU CAN LOSE POINTS
You will be deducted 5 points if  ALL your selections are NOT posted BEFORE the first race goes off

MORE BONUS POINTS - NAP OF THE DAY
MARK YOUR DAILY NAP EACH DAY FOR DOUBLE POINTS 
Your nap SHOULD be in the same post as your normal selections

If your NAP does not run, you revert to the NON-RUNNER RULES, but you will get DOUBLE POINTS if the favourite gets placed

NAPS can be changed by posting up to the first race on any day.

NAPS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF

PODIUM PLACES - NEW STRUCTURE THIS YEAR

Regardless of how many days there are at a meeting - whether it’s 1, 2,  3, 4 or 5:

Up to 44 runners  - Podium points will be awarded for the top 10

45 runners and over  -  Podium points will be awarded for the top 15

HOLIDAYS
A lot of players take part in EVERY placepot competition throughout the season as you really need to post in every competition to stay in the running

If you cannot gain computer access for any reason you may choose to enter while on holiday or on days out or know you will be suffering from a hangover by asking for any of the following :

Returned Favourites (subject to normal joint fav. and co.fav rules)

Racecard numbers (please leave enough time for these to be converted to names before the first race takes place

Top weights in all handicaps, along with racecard numbers for non-handicap races. In the event of joint top weights or non-runners you revert to favourite rules
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 24 Aug 16 14:51
Pump - I'll email you later with the up to date analysis of the Guesses thread.

It occurred to me that the Early Price returns figures may be slightly inflated because they have not been adjusted for NRs. Not sure how I would get that info.
By:
pumphol.
When: 24 Aug 16 15:16
Cheers Nick pretty much impossible I would have thought, maybe deduct 5% from every runner to early prices I would think that would be close what it should actually be.
Your in desperate need of a winner in the comp, fingers x for you
By:
pumphol.
When: 04 Sep 16 22:09
Its nearly that time again Silly



SUPREME PLACEPOT COMPETITION 2016 - RULES

ALL SELECTIONS MUST BE NAMED

RACECARD NUMBERS WILL BE IGNORED  (unless you’re going on holiday and have asked for them)

SCORING
Handicaps - 16 or more runners

Winner - 4 points
2nd - 3 points
3rd - 2 points
4th - 1 point

Races of 8 to 15 runners and non-handicaps of 16 runners and over
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points
3rd - 1 point

Races of 5 to 7 runners
Winner - 3 points
2nd - 2 points

Races of 4 runners or less
Winner - 3 points

It's all about PLACES

You get the above scores PLUS 1 point for each point of S.P. for a horse in the frame

EXAMPLES :
THE THINKER COMES SECOND IN THE GOLD CUP AT 20/1

then it's 2 points for coming second & 20 for the SP - total = 22 Points

DENMAN COMES 4TH IN THE GRAND NATIONAL AT 16/1

then it’s 1 point for 4th plus 16 for the SP - total = 17 Points

KAUTO STAR WINS THE KING GEORGE CHASE AT EVENS

then its 3 points for winning & 1 for the SP - total = 4 Points

NON-RUNNERS 
In the event of selecting a non-runner you will be on the S.P. favourite
In the case of co/joint favourites, you will be on the beast with the lowest racecard number


NON-RUNNERS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF

BONUS POINTS
Are awarded for the following
FIRST 4 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 10 POINTS
FIRST 5 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 20 POINTS
FIRST 6 SELECTIONS IN THE FRAME  - 50 POINTS

YOU CAN LOSE POINTS
You will be deducted 5 points if  ALL your selections are NOT posted BEFORE the first race goes off

MORE BONUS POINTS - NAP OF THE DAY
MARK YOUR DAILY NAP EACH DAY FOR DOUBLE POINTS 
Your nap SHOULD be in the same post as your normal selections

If your NAP does not run, you revert to the NON-RUNNER RULES, but you will get DOUBLE POINTS if the favourite gets placed

NAPS can be changed by posting up to the first race on any day.

NAPS CANNOT BE CHANGED ONCE THE FIRST RACE IS OFF

PODIUM PLACES - NEW STRUCTURE THIS YEAR

Regardless of how many days there are at a meeting - whether it’s 1, 2,  3, 4 or 5:

Up to 44 runners  - Podium points will be awarded for the top 10

45 runners and over  -  Podium points will be awarded for the top 15

HOLIDAYS
A lot of players take part in EVERY placepot competition throughout the season as you really need to post in every competition to stay in the running

If you cannot gain computer access for any reason you may choose to enter while on holiday or on days out or know you will be suffering from a hangover by asking for any of the following :

Returned Favourites (subject to normal joint fav. and co.fav rules)

Racecard numbers (please leave enough time for these to be converted to names before the first race takes place

Top weights in all handicaps, along with racecard numbers for non-handicap races. In the event of joint top weights or non-runners you revert to favourite rules
By:
pumphol.
When: 16 Sep 16 15:52
Nick just catching up with Div 1 CoolCool

Nice work, hopefully I can stay up & see you in Oct Grin
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 16 Sep 16 16:40
Thanks Pump.

Nice winner for you today. Cool
By:
pumphol.
When: 16 Sep 16 17:48
Cheers,all a bit of a struggle this month tbh, who was your big winner ?
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 17 Sep 16 10:00
The horse was Handsome Dude on the 8th (I followed HKF that day).

Lots of winners in Div 1 and the Prem yesterday.

GL today.
By:
pumphol.
When: 21 Sep 16 00:35
Keep going Nick, no-one coming out of the pack to challenge you
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