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I'm afraid Tony is getting more and more desperate here - like a drowning man clutching at straws.
Desperately frustrated that matters are not as bad as they are supposed to be. Nothing spiritual or biblical about what is going on Tony, it's just humans being inhuman as normal. |
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ovalman how have i moved the goalposts? i said basically that the world is gonna be turned upside down and to my mind, unless i am indeed completely stark raving**ers, thats exactly what is happening...do u actually think were all 'ok' at this moment in time? have i not proved that america is in decline even tho they havent (as yet) been attacked by nuclear weapons? theres half a million people a month being laid off over there, the dollar is all but defunct, the world economy is in crisis, the big knobs ie rockerfeller etc want world population reduction, the weather in usa is becoming more and more desperate, ie record hurriacnes tornados etc...what more do u want?
do u think im mentioning all this for the sake of my own health? as for insults, why should anyone be subjected to such a vile tirade of abuse...i havent murdered the man's grandchildren have i? I will reiterate, watch...things will get a whole lot worse.... as for not liking anyone, i try to love people as asked, but its much more difficult than u can imagine....and i will speak out when there is injustice, intolerance, lies etc....or indeed uncalled for insult.. |
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also, i dont see how even my steering off course with dates amounts to be being labelled a coward, whci i am certainly not...in fact i am thinking of offering marvin hagler to a fight next week
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Can you plese confirm what the updated prediction is?
Please give dates and as many specifics as you can please? Your original predicition was that something vague would happen to the USA by last May, obviously nothing happened so you moved the goalposts. Plese could you give us your updated offer? |
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Tony
This has to stop in my case soon as I really should be going. It is true that some people have been rude to you. The thing that I find a wee bit hard is that my faith postion is that God loves us. I mentioned that once and it did result in a somewhat imho over reaction. Your positings seem to be based on the fact God hates particular groups especailly the americans. I think its hard to emphasise with people that insult us infact I believe only Jesus ever did so fully. I wanted to respond initially as the "picture" you paint of God is not recognisable to those people I know who belive in him. I was interested in how you formualted your views as I have not come across them in "real life" |
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HN, I made a very similar point earlier on the thread, which is that Tony's God is, in essence, something of a fascist.
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good to see David Icke still spreading the word
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h n sorry i think youre a very decent person...thanks for posting....i just think that God is hold, why should he keep on tolerating blatant sin and dishonouring his name? can we just always assume, that we can do exactly as we like for ever?
Im sure he doesnt hate americans at all...he loves evrybody..but he also has to warn: Sin will not be tolerated ..america has been blessed amongst nations..they have abused that blessing and must be brought to realise that their spitting in the face of the hand that feeds them will not always go unpunished...jesus' words in matthew have tro come about at some time, dont u think? he has been tolerant for long enough, people will eventually realise hes not some old man with a beard who sits in the clouds bestowing favours on the rich while the poor suffer at their hands...there comes a point whre things must change, and that point is about to be put into action very soon he is saying the same thing he always has namely, repent...and believe that your sins have ben forgiven, that doesnt mean we can then go and bomb the hell out of kids in iraq or tell poor old widows to send in money to tv evangelists to help fund our new bmw |
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Yes Tony, but not all Americans are the same. You seem to feel that all should be punished equally. An omnipotent and just God should surely be able to concentrate the punishment on the guilty. Or do you believe your God isn't all-powerful? Or is He merely unjust?
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I fear more for your daughter than America tbh.
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Can you plese update/ confirm what your latest predictions are?
Please give as much details as you can? Thanks. |
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well ivor, thats not very nice is it? what would u prefer then/ i bring up my daughter as a chav, ie. maybe go about with her hoodie mates taking drugs, scaring old folk, hanging about in gangs terrorising the neighbourhood?
perhaps i should tell her to tell her own kids to 'f' off whenever they refuse to get out of the house til 10pm? or maybe i could leave her to make her own mind up as to the saying s of jesus...who prmoted love and asked people to follow him..i dont coerce her into my way of thinking at all, tho i do try to bring her up to be a decent person and a valued member of a rapidly dysfunctional society..how did or do u bring ur children up? as for current predictions ovalman, im not gonna rise to the giving dates scenario again...what is it about u lot where u appear to delight in proving anyone worng, what do u actually get out of it anyway? |
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* wrong
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post yer bet
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do u know how difficult it is to keep on answering all these questions...im on my own here u know!! im mentally exhausted!u must all be deeply interested in the things of God then after all..either that or u like making fun of mentalists...because if u honestly believe i am that way inclined, it doesnt look good on u to poke fun on someone who isnt sound of mind does it?
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im surprised at u ivor..i thought u actually respected me..i always took note of ur posts in particular
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Because your delusional, firstly on this crackpot idea and secondly on the whole god shebang. Religion brainwashes people and I feel you've been brainwashed just that little bit further.
I would like you to be more specific. When your original post was proved wrong you moved the goalposts and became even hazier about your predictions. I would like your updated information or else admit you are wrong. "Something will happen in America before 2020" is just not good enough. |
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whats Gods position on crispy pancakes?
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I respect you when you present rational observations - but you are getting more extreme and they are becoming rants. If your extreme views (and Muslim terrorists are considered 'extreme' are they not?) are put before a young daughter then it would be unhealthy to say the least.
You are pointing at unemployment - USA 8.1% is it?. Well 10% is not unusual and when that point is reached demand outstrips supply, opportunities arise, businesses open up and unemployment reduces again. There was a 'depression' once I think You are pointing at riots. Well riots have happened in the past. They take place, they fade away into history again. You point to floods - well guess what..they happen. Don't know about you and yours - but here, people are commuting to work as normal, driving their vehicles as normal , teachers are in school as normal and butchers are butching as normal. Relax! Get rid of your biblical god and jesus nonsense - this is all normal in the history of the world's cycles. |
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ovalman u only want me to be specific so that you can come back and have a go!
I have already stated what will happen in the near future, why press me for dates again? I have said i am not a prophet, and i will admit i was wrong in the 1st instance to give dates, howver, i stand by all that i have said regarding the fall of the usa generally..and u have to admit that things did start to go wrong from the dates i agev anyway even tho there was no nuclear attack..things will get worse, im not just saying this i know it..i believe in the biblical tribulation period, and i have an idea it MAY have already begun, tho i wont say this is certain as im not god |
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and now i have to have some medicene before being locked away in my room for the night.....ill be back under the guise of my other assumed name later (orioles)
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ovalman u only want me to be specific so that you can come back and have a go!
I'm afraid you can't be more specific as it will make you look like a bigger plonker than you already are. I have already stated what will happen in the near future, why press me for dates again? I have said i am not a prophet, and i will admit i was wrong in the 1st instance to give dates, howver, i stand by all that i have said regarding the fall of the usa generally..and u have to admit that things did start to go wrong from the dates i agev anyway even tho there was no nuclear attack..things will get worse, im not just saying this i know it..i believe in the biblical tribulation period, and i have an idea it MAY have already begun, tho i wont say this is certain as im not god The only thing specific you said was that something will happen in the US before May last year. This clearly has not happened, you and your mate weinland have been proved wrong. Your now being even hazier saying something will happen in the US in the future. I could have told you that, in fact I will be even more specific and say that I predict that one of the following will occur in the next 10 years in the US: A hurricane will wreck another major city A volcano will erupt killing thousands An earthquake will also kill thousands An asteroid will strike Yellowstone park will erupt as a super volcano A tsunami will hit Terrorist will strike again Elvis will be found alive and well I will eat humble pie if one of those doesn't happen before 2020. It doesn't take verses from a book of fairytales to tell me that either, I just think that its statistically likely to happen. |
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The vicar at the local I used to attend is Andrew White who is vicar of a church in Baghdad.
His goal is see what he can to bring about reconciliation to the various groups in Iraq and he will chat to sunni, shi ite, sects based on John the Baptist and a small group the muslims refer to as devil worshipers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_Andrew_White He is no stranger to danger, having been "hijacked, kidnapped, locked up in rooms with bits of finger and toe and things He is no stranger to danger, having been "hijacked, kidnapped, locked up in rooms with bits of finger and toe and things At the local church he was a regular curate and I have seen him give 100% attention to whoever he happened to be talking to at the time. When he got multiple sclerosis he did not feel the need to share this information until it was clear to the congregation there was something wrong. At one time he was invited to dinner with two of Sadams sons and realised he had to accept as to refuse may of meant his state minder might of been executed. His goal is to be a peacemaker and obviously this involves him talking to every bad of opinion however extreme. We live in a very dangerous world economic trends mean that China rather than America is likely to be the be a super power of the late 21st Century. Demographic trends indicate islam will be a major force in europe Take a cursery look at Chinese human rights and its foreign policy as regards Tibet or Sudan. This video made me laugh its eddie Izzard about the Anglican church. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZVjKlBCvhg At the moment in this country it would be quite possible to put these words on a bus |
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THE END IS NIGH
has everyone bought their umbrella-ella-ella for when the sky falls? |
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Don`t worry everthing is gonna be alright.
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gwan. we're nearly to the 1000 mark
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ovalman, if u think that any of your scenarios are statistically likely to happen, why are they likely to do in the next 10 years and for eg. havent happened already?
I will say again i gave out info about economic collapse in usa too, which has all but happened, no one else on here appeared to hold similar views...but perhaps that too was statistically likely...well it was bound to....it had to happen sometime between 1929 and 2029. |
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US economic collapse has been predicted by many fruitcakes over the decades. What they failed to comprehend was the evolution of the market and the union of nations.
Your predictions have no more backing than a nutter with a sandwich board screaming the end is nigh |
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what details of economic collapse did you give Tony?
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Several have happened already, Tony
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[i]I get the info from all kinds of sorces, prophetic, scientific, bilderberg plans, common sense (yes i know thats hard to believe) a witnessing to my own spirit, the only way i can be proven right is for this thread to still be active within the next 12 weeks or so.
And yes u can bet on clinton being next president...there free money too.[/i] Damn You, I tells ya. And now???? How do I make it all back? |
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it has nearly made 64 weeks :)
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If my one of my predictions come true Tony, will you worship me?
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"I will say again i gave out info about economic collapse in usa too"
Please refer to the posts where you did this. IIRC the only concrete prediction you made (which I had to wheedle out of you) was a nuclear attack on the US by the end of last May. Would you also accept that you followed a false prophet who predicted all sorts (round about last July I think) which didn't actually come to pass? I hope you've begged God for forgiveness. |
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My mistake, Weinland's prediction was something huge to happen on April 17th last year, not in July. Time flies. However, it didn't happen. False prophecy. Have you asked your God for forgiveness, Tony?
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I've already asked him Pool...
And it was I who did the wheedling thank you very much! |
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PoolFC 28 Jan 13:11
Please make a reasonably detailed prediction, so we can see if you're right. As I understand it you're predicting a nuclear terror attack on the US before the end of May. Is this correct? MrSpade 28 Jan 13:12 also, is it safe to go to vegas 2nd week in April for 10 days....? Tony Broke 28 Jan 13:48 yes pool and economic collapse though the timing of this is a little unclear...on saying that however, i somehow think the dow jones wouldnt be exactly stable after the nuc attack. |
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How brave you are, sparkmaster. It's not like your intention when you said that many people had anticipated a financial crisis in America was to give the impression that you were one of them, is it? Wouldn't hide behind a misapprehension?
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what?
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sparkmaster. 24 Jan 23:03
Three weeks ago you were saying April - are we getting a stay of execution? Tony Broke 25 Jan 11:10 no spark...its around april/may, i only mentioned may cos by then the 1st nuclear attack will have taken place!! THREE DAYS MAN! |