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09 May 09
18:52
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why are there such things as famine and daytime TV?
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Cos he's a sadistic chav innit.
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cos he has empowered man to create and ...er destroy...
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without famine we would never have experienced Comic Relief.
people tend to forget this. amen. |
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There isn't a God.
Nearest thing in my lifetime has been Matt LeTissier. |
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The Answer is here, and you know what it makes sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw |
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does The Problem of Pain by CS Lewis look into this?
If you're really interested into some thoughts on this matter you should read it |
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Consider the lily.....
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HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW MASSIVE NATURAL DISASTERS OFTEN HAPPEN IN NON "CHRISTIAN PROTESTANT"COUNTRIES
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God has absolute soverignity but he doesn't have control. Bit like a policeman during a riot. He has authority but he doesn't have control over the crowd.
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So "God" (whater it is or may be) is not ominpotent?
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*whatever
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He's given over a lot of control to us. The results speak for themselves..
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If God is omnipotent, how did he manage to have kids?
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If man is five and the devil is six, then God is seven...
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He probabley read chit chat and he has ALL you names
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i believe almost every problem in the world inc natural disasters are down to man and the way he 'stewards' the earth...tho mankind and the earth itself is also cursed
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Tony you've always got something to say on a God thread but each time you are challenged you ignore it. Why is that?
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In a few years maybe even decades the Hauldren Collider will shed some new light on the subject.
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"You want the truth? Believers can't handle the truth". ;-)
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i never ignore challenges aspro flippin 'eck! have u seen how many times i had to answer on that usa fall thread? i had people coming at me from all over the place ..worn out i was i tell you!!
I also receive a lot of insults and after a bit, i dont always look so if i have missed any questions i apologise |
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Ignored yet again... so true what they say. All deaf preachers and brainwashed imo
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talk about bad timing...
Yes Tony, I've asked many questions on a genuine level but you've ignored them all. Wasn't expecting that one tbh :) |
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where have i ignored you?
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i rememember answering somethign u asked not long ago but it wsnt the usa fall thread
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I'm Agnostic Tony... yeah, I sit on the fence. I understand what is going on around me and the wonders of nature which is why I can't fully justify being an atheist but with so many religions, I find it all a farce. My last question to you was why do you think your God is real and others are not?
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Bloody fence sitters ;-).
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can't help help it daz.. I speak as I find and nature is just too wonderful to be an atheist and not believe that there is more to this than meets the eye. Religion to me is man made and lacks any proof at all
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*dab
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I know what you're saying Asp. I used to class myself as an agnostic but I am definitely now an athiest. There is no omnipotent God in my eyes but as for life after death or how the Universe was created then I can't answer that.
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the christian God u mean?
Its all a matter of belief, or faith isn't it? Like yourself, I also see the wonders of nature and can see intelligent design there, if i belive in God and seeking 'truth,' its up to me to find out who this true God is...i dont pay much heed to all those televangelists who are only after our money, i look into the bible myself, yes, its ridiclued but there are things in there which to me make perfect sense, namely, the sayings and actions of Jesus, i believe he is who he says he is, tho like many others i also have doubts when he apparently doesnt answer prayer etc. I also believe God wants man's friendship, and that that friendship can only be obtained when we are cleaned up...ie jesus has cleaned us up, paid the price of our sins, no other religion to me has this one to one friendship/relationship thing, nor it would seem, salvation from sin. Hope this makes a little sense! |
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It is also likely that our brains will never be able to fully comprehend all about the Universe. Instead we like to make up something as superficial as a God.
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Tony I meant the Christian, Islamic and Jewish God really.
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With regards to nature, the timescale that it has had to evovle is absolutely immense. We tend to think of things in terms of our lifetime. You X that amount by several million years and that timescale would seem like infinity to us and so an infinite amout of wonderous things could happen.
Nature is wonderous but it can be explained to a certain extent. |
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i think the islamic faith revolves around being accepted by god because of your works, with the christian God its all grace, a free gift if we just believe...i do have some probs with the OT jewish beliefs etc tho on saying that, lots of OT prophecies refer to jesus anyway
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My view is that if God cared for all mankind he/she/it would not allow that starvation of millions and allow less than 1% to control 90% of the world's wealth (or figures similar to this). We read the bible where evil was so often overcome, with Noah, Moses to name just a few. Why was that all allowed to happen back in those days where it is needed more than ever today?
Your views on world domination are similar to my own but if there was any real God who cared for his people then he would not allow this to continue. It will continue, it will probably get worse and countless more will die before peace, if it exists, ever arrives. Each to their own Tony but again your answer, like all of those before you, are based solely on how YOU think about it... that, for me, just isn't enough and as always, the proof always fails to materialise. The Bible is full of hypocrisy and fails to examine what we have since found out about our evolution. First God made the earth etc and then the Bible omits the next so many million years and pops up with Adam and Eve. According to the Bible they came next, according to fact they came a lot later. Now we know this to be true, how can you still continue to believe in a book that is clearly based on the thoughts of the writer, not on any known or proven fact? |
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What is your take on Spirtitualists Tony. It seems to me (where I live anyway) that many people especially women are turning to spiritualism instead of religion.
Again I feel that spiritualists a bit like the TV evangilists are nothing but money grabbing charlatans. What I would say though is that when someone has lost a loved one,especially a young child these people give thenm so much comfort and help them to move on even if it is nothing but lies so I suppose they are providing a decent service. |
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I thought Satan had been given dominion over the earth, and so Satan is responsible for all the nasty goings on until such time a final battle between good and evil takes place and abominations such as Floods, famine and Big Brother are banished forever.
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5/6 the pair
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AFK for an hour or so but will check this out again later. Soz for the earlier comment Tony, jumped the gun a bit there and glad you did finally answer. I will remain civil now that you have :)
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