robdylan speaks the truth - but I still look back on my uni years a cherished times.
Made a lot of friends for life, which when you start a career and move from job to job doesn't seem to happen in the same way.

obdylan 28 May 09:56
i don't think you learn much "life skills" at uni personally. when i went, i just got p.issed all the time, never went to lectures, just got the notes and crammed it all in in the few days before exams. Alright so i learnt how to cook and wash my own clothes and pay electricity bills and that. big deal.

What did I learn about life? fk all tbh. Learnt much more from working than I did as a student. You don't meet a particularly varied type of person at uni, because students, are all much of a muchness tbh. when you go to work you meet all sorts.

I can't believe that anyone that would write something like this went to uni, mostly because it's cliched bo11ox, but also because the grammar is so bad "and that".

Uni doesn't end learning in life, it just starts it.

f.uk grammar.

Bloody hell, most graduates these days can't string a sentence together verbally never mind write with correct grammar !

Maybe you are one of the people that shouldn't have gone to uni. Sounds like you didn't soak up the experience and just let it pass you by. I pity you.

most students are up their own ar** and detest working class people i have little or no time for them.

kingfisher 23 28 May 10:30
most students are up their own ar** and detest working class people i have little or no time for them.

on what do you base this? Loads of my peers are working class. Sounds more like you have an inferiority complex.

it all depends what you put in.

if you put in a decent effort to your studies and having fun, then a degree is well worth it. if you just sit in your halls, skip classes and sit around playing xbox and watching dvd's all day, then it isn't.

if you're going to university, you have to get a 2:1 minimum or it isn't worth it in terms of getting a better job than you would have done without going. if you get a 2:2 or a third and have some amazing experiences on the social side, and i don't just mean getting drunk and stealing roadsigns, then again, it might have been worth it, but that's subjective.

as with all things, the more people that do them, the less special they become. more graduates going for less graduate jobs means you have to do even more to stand out from the crowd, but a 2:1 degree from a decent university, combined with a few other things on your cv, would see you get a decent enough job after finishing university.

after you've got your first job in your proper career, the degree won't matter as much as prospective employers will focus more on what your last job was and how you performed in it, rather than your qualifications (unless specialised).

the point is, going to university and doing it properly, actually putting effort in (assuming you are intelligent in the first place, not someone who just got in to an old polytechnic through clearing with a D in business studies and a D in general studies), will give you a huge advantage over most of the field when starting a career.

it's also very worthwhile considering a year out in business after your second year as the university will help find you a company to work for and if you perform well enough for them, they have a habbit of taking you back on after you've graduated as they know you can perform well in the role and it's safer than taking a 'new' person on.

kingfisher 23 28 May 10:31
I could spew when you hear them'Daddy said this, Daddy said that.

well I go to a very good uni and I have never once heard anyone use the word "daddy", loads of public school boys/girls. You're just making it up.

I doubt your very good uni is in the same breath as Durham.

I studied Inglish at Plymoth Politechnic.

Did so well Im know lecturing their.

A bunch of degens on a gambling forum arguing that you need a degree for 'top jobs' ... you couldn't make it up!

University is something to do until you can be arsed to get a job. Degrees mean less and less for the majority of employers in the real world.

obdylan 28 May 10:33
what is the big thing you "learn" evski? Who are all these fascinating characters? There is a much bigger variety of people in the average work place than at uni. Uni is largely middle class and white, especially if you do English or History or something.

Abviously it was totally wasted on you. Had you gone in to work straight away as i did, then you would realise that as someone without qualifications you don't get to meet the interesting people. YOu share offices with idiots that couldn't be arsed to go to uni, and if they did they got a 2:2 from sheffield Hallam. There is no variety in these crappy jobs, everyone is a boring pretentious fool that spends most of their paltry 20k on clothes and their car whilst still living with mum.

The uni experience isn't learning one thing that is the same for everyone, but the vast majority of people think it the time of their lives. It's a shame you missed out on that.

kingfisher 23 28 May 10:35
I doubt your very good uni is in the same breath as Durham.

I had to get 3 a's to get in. In my subject it is ranked higher, but in most you are right, it is slightly lower. But not much.

is the german woman clarky9's wife? :0

Is this a test evski? Am I supposed to point out your spelling mistakes?

I still don't know what you learn apart from your subject. You learn to look after yourself - washing clothes, paying rent, etc. But you'd learn that anyway.

You have a point re: getting a better job meeting more varied people. But I used to work in factories and on building sites and met loads of genuine and fascinating people. More so than at uni. University really doesn't have a massive variety of people imo.

lol ah i see, didnt notice that :D

I got expelled from School at 15 for running a book on the 74 Derby :-(

At least it was a skinner :-)