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nope it never did, only an americanism I'm afraid.
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We did this in school after we had an Iraqi kid come over from America and he dissagreed with the teacher lol.
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It gets more complicated after a billion two. shortscale = every extra 3 zeros becomes the next xxxxxillion, (by naming convention), wereas in long scale it is each 000x000, and even te americans then use some shortscale terms in error but commonly.
I prefer powers ;-) |
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no Jim, a billion is now nationally recognised as 1000 000 000 regardless. i go back to my "world population" example. we dont have 6 billion in this country and 6 hundred thousand million in America...
the million million is OLD ENGLISH apparently. no one applys it anywhere these days. |
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a billion too - ffs
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global pop obv...*
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actually you are right, the change occurred in 1974 according to wiki!
I was still in nappies then though. |
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some of us can apply common sense without the use of yanker entrepenuers lol ;)
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Yes, changing sometime around the mid seventies sound about right to me. I certainly remember it anyway.
The following is from the Oxford English Dictionary website: Billion. If you are American, it is undoubtedly 1,000,000,000. This amount is known to traditionally minded British people as a thousand million, and by some more adventurous ones as a milliard, though this word has not made as much headway in English as in some other European languages. A trillion is then 1,000,000,000,000, and so on. If you are British, on the other hand, a billion may be 1,000,000,000,000 (a million million), following the older convention. |
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pokerM, that is actually the opposite.
i think it was the Yanks who kept the extra zeros in... |
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and since the Yankers are naturally a greedy race i can fully believe it...
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I don't think so Dealem. I can remember being taught at school that a billion was a million million.
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And I lifted that quote form the Oxford English Dictionary website.
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Odds of being killed on a single airline flight
Top 25 airlines with the best records ______________________________ 1 in 8.47 million Top 25 airlines with the best records 1 in 13.57 million Bottom 25 with the worst records ______________________________ 1 in 830,428 Bottom 25 with the worst records 1 in 1.13 million |
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search The long and short scales are two of several different large number naming systems used throughout the world: Short scale is the English translation of the French term échelle courte.[1] It refers to a system of large number names in which every new term greater than million is 1,000 times the previous term: billion means a thousand millions (109), trillion means a thousand billions (1012), and so on. Long scale is the English translation of the French term échelle longue. It refers to a system of names in which every new term greater than million is 1,000,000 times the previous term: billion (from bi and million) means a million to the power of two or a million millions (1012), trillion (from tri and million) means a million to the power of three or a million billions (1018), and so on. Many countries, including most in continental Europe, use the long scale. For most of the 19th and 20th centuries, the United Kingdom uniformly used the long scale,[2] while the United States of America used the short scale,[2] so that usage of the two systems was often referred to as British and American respectively. In 1974, the government of the UK switched to the short scale, a change that is now reflected in its mass media and official usage.[3][4][5][6] Although some residual usage of the long scale continues in the UK,[7] the phrases British usage and American usage are no longer accurate nor helpful characterizations. The two systems can be a subject of misunderstanding or controversy. Usage changes can evoke resentment in adherents to the older system, while national differences of any kind can acquire jingoistic overtones.[8] |
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million million is an english billion
thousand million is a yank billion |
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Yes, Jim, that is much as I remember it.
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And Andy.
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good, the greedy Yanks tried to revolt and gave up hahah
i stand reinformed... |
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I think the Americans should have adopted the British system rather than the other way around. I think it makes more sense.
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Still, it could just be my jingoistic overtones I suppose. :)
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So we switched to the short scale to match the yanks. So the correct answer is 1000000000, and the other number is pre-1974 when we matched Europe.
ten to the nine I say ;-) |
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no, iof course it makes more sense, as i said b4, there is no nickname for 1000 mill.
BRITS RULE.. |
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oh, so we changed FFS, fkin boolacks.
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a thousand milll would have been called a millard, apparently!
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Dealem: The British used to call a thousand million a MILLIARD.
There's nothing wrong with calling 1,000,000,000 a THOUSAND MILLION in my opinion, because that's plainly what it is. |
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It all depends how fast this plane is descending to earth for its scary fate imo. in which case anything ending in illion would probably suffice.
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The so-called short scale is devoid of logic, and naturally suits Americans.
It is sad that our Govt has kow-towed. It's not the only example, of course. |
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It's true... we now also have 14" pizzas lol...
PM, then you would also like to call a million a thousand thousand since that is plainly what it is. |
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No Dealem, I prefer to use the word MILLION instead of ONE THOUSAND THOUSAND.
It's technically correct, of course, but it sounds clumsy. |
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pokermonster you do realise that these forums are monitered by mi5 for particular phrases like in the header , sleep with your clothes on and dont lock the doors, they will just damage them when they come for you ,
ps dont ask for a snorkel when they waterboard you ,it will just antagonise. |
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If their waterboards are anything like their wardrobes I've got nothing to worry about.
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