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Pokermonster
25 Jan 10 00:14
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I've just heard someone say this on the telly.

If this is true, the next time I fly I might take a bomb on board but not detonate it. The chances of another bomb being on board would then be a billion to one, so myself, and all the other travellers, would be able to rest that little bit easier.

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By:
The Leopard
When: 25 Jan 10 00:17
Which one of your bombs will you take...?
By:
Bobbing For Diamonds
When: 25 Jan 10 00:17
lol
By:
Dealem....
When: 25 Jan 10 00:20
lol, 1 000 billion to one actually :p
By:
aziraphale
When: 25 Jan 10 00:21
commonly known as a "trillion" ;)
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:22
I'm old school Dealem. I still think of a billion as a million million. :)
By:
punterfleecer
When: 25 Jan 10 00:22
wouldnae mind renee zellweger explaining this to me in the buff
By:
Dobbo
When: 25 Jan 10 00:23
Its still a million to one whatever you do
By:
HowieTheRookie.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:23
biggest price on Betfair 999-1 :(
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:24
A billion used to be a million million. Not regarded as such anymore, of course, but I preferred it that way.
By:
punterfleecer
When: 25 Jan 10 00:24
is it f.uck? not until I email her
By:
HRH The Lager Khan
When: 25 Jan 10 00:28
I just know I'm gonna' be on a plane that has to make an emergency landing in the sea. The gallant pilot makes a text book landing, but unfortunately we are blown to bits by the impact on landing as everyone was reducing the chances of terrorism by carrying a bomb in their hand luggage. Typical. :(
By:
canaryboy
When: 25 Jan 10 00:31
The chances of another bomb being on board would then be a billion to one

no they'd still be a million to one
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:34
I was involved in a near miss approaching Gatwick about fifteen years ago. It caused the pilot to engage our 747 into a gut wrenching aerobatic manoeuvre that seemed to involve flying vertically with the engines at full thrust.

You would expect mass panic and screaming, wouldn't you? I never heard any passenger utter a sound.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:35
That's because you work at air traffic control
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:39
It was a horrible sensation, Sparky. Blatantly obvious to everyone that something was very much amiss and I'm sure we all felt the same thing. Sick to the stomach.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:41
I should have mentioned we were flying vertically upwards. The other way around and I daresay there might have been a bit of screaming.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:42
I dont like flying to be honest pokermonster. I mean I know statistically it's safe, but jeez it all sounds far fetched1
By:
Coachbuster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:42
i would lay the million to one personally , i think those odds are out .

There Must be millions of flight worldwide in a year .
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:43
I don't like flying either. I hate it in fact.
By:
Dealem....
When: 25 Jan 10 00:45
canary is correct, i knew this but chose to follow on to correct for my own slef pleasure...

PM you are also right, but i refuse to acknowledge this. there is no name tag for 1000 mill so a billion is ok by me lol

i had a bet with someone in a pub once who was saying how a billion is a million million, this is how i know. i refused to believe it. my arguement was that the world is populated by about 3 billion people. he agreed. i said that wasnt 3000000000000. his arguement was that this is what it USED to be. of course i didnt pay... but nor did he lol
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:45
I'm sure there are Coach. I think the chap was just generalising.

I still don't buy into the argument that flying is one of the safest forms of transport, though. It obviously isn't.
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:45
you'd be wrong to actually Coachbuster

Type of Flight Fatalities per million flight hours
Airliner (Scheduled and nonscheduled Part 121) 4.03
Commuter Airline (Scheduled Part 135) 10.74
Commuter Plane (Nonscheduled Part 135 - Air taxi on demand) 12.24
General Aviation (Private Part 91) 22.43
By:
Coachbuster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:47
Pokermonster , will you fly again after that experience ? :)
By:
Dealem....
When: 25 Jan 10 00:47
i think it is the safest.. purely governed by the cost of insurance of course...
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:48
Oh yes Coach. I have flown many times since then.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:48
Still don't like it though. :(
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:48
Coachbuster, although that same site has stats which appear to contradcit that, so I may be wrong!
By:
Dealem....
When: 25 Jan 10 00:50
if it is a million or .1 of a million, that is still probs the safeest
By:
Coachbuster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:52
sparkmaster. 25 Jan 01:45
you'd be wrong to actually Coachbuster

Type of Flight Fatalities per million flight hours
Airliner (Scheduled and nonscheduled Part 121) 4.03

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Assuming the above makes up the type of airliner figures we are talking about ,we can assume 4 deaths per 1m flying hours.

Assuming the average flight lasts 4 hours ,we can therefore assume an average of 1 fatality per million flights .

Assuming that not all fatalities are caused by bombings i can therefore safely assume a winning payo,ut ;)
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:52
surely the safest is virtually travelling via chit-chat? I've been to Las Vegas and Krakow 37 times and it's not cost me a penny.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:54
I flew into New York a couple of months before the Twin Towers terrorist attacks. An hour or so before landing we heard television reports that there had been hijack alerts and that they were threatening to crash NYC bound planes into the cities skyscrapers.

Once in New York aispace we were held circling in the air for what seemed like ages before eventually landing safely. At the time the threats were linked to a group involved with the Columbine shooters. When the towers fell I never heard these earlier threats mentioned once, but I'm sure they must have been connected.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:55
*city's
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 00:57
Linked by whom? What group?
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 00:58
Another worrying statistic to look up, Sparky, is the percentage of planes that end up crashing.

I can't remember the figure, but it is much higher than one might imagine.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 01:01
Linked by the television reporter, Sparky. I have no idea what his source was I'm afraid, I simply cannot remember.

As to the group, the reporter alleged those two shooters were part of a bigger terrorist group. Again, this is all I know.

What I was getting at that is I believe they were wrong in the above assumptions and that the intelligence they did have was connected to the fateful events of 11th September.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 01:03
Bloody Hell, my typing is getting worse by the minute.
By:
Jim Hensen
When: 25 Jan 10 01:03
coach is correct.

RE: safety. In the aviation engineering industry there is a saying, "you cant just park it in a lay by". This is shopfloor speak for the multiple back up systems in place in airplane design. Literally every system has backups and failsafes, and in the end a plane can fly and land with no power and a few of its basic mechanical systems in tact.

The danger really comes from human error and misendevour. Lets face it this will happen in all aspects of life and flyin is probably safer even then.

RE: A billion. English billion is 1000000, (short scale) & American is 1000000000 (long scale).
By:
sparkmaster.
When: 25 Jan 10 01:04
PM, re your first post, I believe you're right, but also that the vast majority of passengers survive such crashes. It's all in the definition of what is a crash.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 25 Jan 10 01:05
True, Jim, but a billion did use to have twelve zeros.
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