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FA CUP QUIZ ROUND 1 - GLEEMAN v REDBAG

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By:
MrNibbs
When: 16 Jan 10 21:24
DRAMA :0
By:
RoyClaytonsTash
When: 16 Jan 10 21:26
This could run for say......4hrs 23mins
By:
redbag
When: 16 Jan 10 21:30
lozzy...as gleemans answer was correct i feel its fair that he goes through
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 16 Jan 10 21:31
Not sure what website could possibly have had that film down at 4 hours!! :)
By:
jockay.
When: 16 Jan 10 21:33
I'm terribly sorry Redbag but having watched A Beautiful Mind yesterday(!), I knew it couldn't be right... ;-)
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 21:33
No Redbag - the question is void. Option a should not have been an option and would not have been at 2 hours 19 had the site I looked at not been incorrect.

Q4 must be replayed.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 16 Jan 10 21:34
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By:
jockay.
When: 16 Jan 10 21:35
Lozzy 16 Jan 22:33
No Redbag - the question is void. Option a should not have been an option and would not have been at 2 hours 19 had the site I looked at not been incorrect.


Then B and D shouldn't have been an option either because they are even shorter than A
By:
redbag
When: 16 Jan 10 21:37
well im off to bed..i,ll look in tomorrow to see the outcome
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 21:37
The site I looked at is obviously a disastrous** up.

Only fair way is to replay the question.
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 21:39
The outcome Redbag is that the question is void. The match stands at 0-0 and there will be a replayed multi GK (as a question 6) so we will do that whenever is convenient for you both.
By:
sparkygayle
When: 16 Jan 10 21:52
Gleeman got the question right tho, so no matter what redbag's answer was if it wasn't the same as G's, 1-0 to Gleeman shirley ?
Been hard done to imho...
By:
Tevez is God
When: 16 Jan 10 21:53
ridiculous ruling - glee got it right, end of
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 21:59
Sparky Gale and Tevez

I set the question and I have checked the site and nearly ALL of the options a-f have INCORRECT times on that site. I certainly would not have asked this question had I known the right information.

Even more relevant there was no CHALLENGE at the time.

Quiz rules state that if a quizzer does not challenge before the next question is asked then he cannot get a goal even if he is correct in hindsight.

However I do feel it correct to discount Gleeman's goal in the circumstances - and hence the ruling.

The match will continue at 0-0 with a replacement question.
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 21:59
correction

However I do feel it correct to discount REDBAG'S goal in the circumstances - and hence the ruling.
By:
jockay.
When: 16 Jan 10 22:03
what other sites can you possibly look at for movie questions than imdb.com or wikipedia...
By:
jockay.
When: 16 Jan 10 22:04
Gleeman won it fair and square imo...
By:
deepblue
When: 16 Jan 10 22:04
abeautifulmindathalfspeed.com
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 16 Jan 10 22:08
Rules are rules, be harsh on Redbag to lose after he thought he had won.

Void Q sounds right imo.
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 22:09
Jockay as explained under the quiz rules the goal cannot be awarded to Gleeman after the game as there was no challenge at the time.

Quizzers should challenge if they believe they have got something correct and that the official answer is wrong.

However it is clear that Redbag's goal shouldn't have stood, and it is clear the entire question (not just that bit of it) was a right balls up.

Therefore the game will continue at 0-0 as stated.
By:
sparkygayle
When: 16 Jan 10 22:21
OK fair enough Lozzy - expect me to challenge EVERY time i get a question previously then.
I don't mind winning on a technicality the next day ;)
By:
Lozzy
When: 16 Jan 10 22:25
Sparky - if there is a challenge the match is HELD while the ref looks into it. Once the game over that is it and in most circumstances if there is a challenge after the game the result stands regardless. Players need to challenge at the time.

However in this case the question was such a disaster, the error was noted by a bystander as soon as he saw it and to award the goal to Redbag in the face of the correct facts would be completely unfair, especially in a knockout cup game where it affected the result, and that's why the question has to be voided and a new one asked.
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 17 Jan 10 00:30
a vital error has been made in the match ......
NOT picked up (by a spectator) until just after the match had finished ...so The Match referee has taken a valid decision in Voiding the question and then another Valid decision in Not awarding the match to Gleeman ..
He did so as soon as seen and obviously in the hope the 2 players were still in the Stadium ..
Redbag sportingly offered the chance for Gleeman to go through ...and that WAS sporting of him and in the best tradition of the Leagues ...and ALL credit to him ....
There are arguments FOR both players positions ...
But in the face of the error , another Question giving BOTH players a chance is the fairest option ...and I hope players can see that ...I am sure Both match players will ...
...Lozzy acted right to recover the situation ...the error was there ...the ruling followed guidelines to be classed as a voided Q.....Good Luck to BOTH players who both remain in the Competition currently ...
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 17 Jan 10 00:34
after above post to reiterate position :-
Lozzy 16 Jan 22:21
Therefore the result is rescinded and stands at 0-0, and the game will continue with one GK multi question when both quizzers can play. Should this not be got, the game would continue to extra time.
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By:
positively4thsteet
When: 17 Jan 10 07:49
Bearing in mind that Glee didn't complain and the error was only spotted because jockay noticed, then I think it would be unfair on Redbag if he lost the game. Void question a fair result imo. For Glee anything will be a bonus.
By:
Lozzy
When: 17 Jan 10 07:54
I should be here most of the day for this match to be resumed when both quizzers can make it. it may last 30 seconds, but who knows it could turn out to be a several question extra time thriller !
By:
cedarmaster
When: 17 Jan 10 08:28
again a no-win situation for the Admin team but all credit to them as i feel this is the best solution
By:
Lozzy
When: 17 Jan 10 08:33
Cedar this is why we have guidelines in place for this kind of eventuality, but the ultimate discretion is always that of the match referee - although he is entitled if unsure to refer to the admin team for a vote.
By:
The Dragon
When: 17 Jan 10 08:39
whats going on here then?????
By:
Lozzy
When: 17 Jan 10 08:45
One of the questions was messed up due to incorrect information on an internet site. A goal was awarded and Jockay spotted that the official answer was incorrect virtually as soon as I blew the full time whistle. I checked and he was right. The goal has therefore been disallowed and the game will resume with a new question. Gleeman had left the forum by the time so we couldnt continue last night, but both players have been informed via email.
By:
Joe Jordan
When: 17 Jan 10 08:50
also Both players were apologised too by e mail .
By:
gleeman
When: 17 Jan 10 09:24
I have only just logged on for the first time since the match.

I agree with the official decision to ask another question - the original one was clearly wrong, but I don't think I should be given the point.

It's an unfortunate situation but sh1t happens.
By:
Lozzy
When: 17 Jan 10 09:25
Morning Gleeman. Apologies again for the disastrous question.

What time suits you Gleeman to continue ? Redbag knows about the decision and said he'd look in today.
By:
gleeman
When: 17 Jan 10 09:34
I am about this afternnon until approx. 6.00, and then from 8-10.30.

I will keep looking in.
By:
redbag
When: 17 Jan 10 09:57
i,ll be about tonight gleeman
By:
Lozzy
When: 17 Jan 10 09:59
Ok I will bring this to the top at 8pm then
By:
gleeman
When: 17 Jan 10 09:59
OK
By:
panglima
When: 17 Jan 10 10:04
Just read the thread from the start without knowing what was to come, a more than fair outcome imo under the circumstances.
By:
A1 Bionic
When: 17 Jan 10 10:13
Lozzy should have his quizmaster status revoked

shocking to ask questions without double checking answers, common sense should have flagged up that 4 hours 23 mins for that film was just stupid.

That is all i have to say on the matter
By:
Lozzy
When: 17 Jan 10 10:23
A1 Bionic is your life really that devoid of interest that you need to go around stirring up hornet's nests ? Both quizzers recognise that errors are occasionally made and they are both happy to continue the game later. I will go when I lose the confidence of the quizzers, not nobodies like you.
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