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FA CUP ROUND 1 GLEEMAN - champ v REDBAG - cola
HOME SUBJECT - LITERATURE
REJECTED SUBJECT BELIEFS
THE FA CUP MATCH RULES:-
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All matches are of 6 questions
Questions 1-3-5 ...are on HOME subject chosen ..LITERATURE - Q3 is a multi -A to F
Questions 2+4+6.... are on General Knowledge = Q4 is a multi -A to F
Multis =
On a multi 6 answers (A to F) are given ...only ONE is correct..
On a multi you can JUST type only a Letter corresponding to your correct answer choice ....= .A,B,C,D,E, or F....Gains you vital seconds ..-------------------------------------------------------------
After 6 Questions the Result is known.
If it is a draw at that stage then a Golden Goal format ensues ..
..this will be ONE General Knowledge question ....with FIRST correct wins..
If both give the same correct answer then FIRST UP wins it .
If neither quizzer gets it right another question will be asked until a Golden Goal is scored.
Surnames only ARE acceptable --unless a FULL name is asked for.
NO answer will count after Time Up
##.. If you have a problem with an answer or anything type up ..STOP or HOLD
and the game is Immediately suspended until resolved ..
IF you both are happy with the Rules and are ready to start ..type OK
HOME SUBJECT - LITERATURE
REJECTED SUBJECT BELIEFS
THE FA CUP MATCH RULES:-
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All matches are of 6 questions
Questions 1-3-5 ...are on HOME subject chosen ..LITERATURE - Q3 is a multi -A to F
Questions 2+4+6.... are on General Knowledge = Q4 is a multi -A to F
Multis =
On a multi 6 answers (A to F) are given ...only ONE is correct..
On a multi you can JUST type only a Letter corresponding to your correct answer choice ....= .A,B,C,D,E, or F....Gains you vital seconds ..-------------------------------------------------------------
After 6 Questions the Result is known.
If it is a draw at that stage then a Golden Goal format ensues ..
..this will be ONE General Knowledge question ....with FIRST correct wins..
If both give the same correct answer then FIRST UP wins it .
If neither quizzer gets it right another question will be asked until a Golden Goal is scored.
Surnames only ARE acceptable --unless a FULL name is asked for.
NO answer will count after Time Up
##.. If you have a problem with an answer or anything type up ..STOP or HOLD
and the game is Immediately suspended until resolved ..
IF you both are happy with the Rules and are ready to start ..type OK
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However I do feel it correct to discount REDBAG'S goal in the circumstances - and hence the ruling.
However I do feel it correct to discount REDBAG'S goal in the circumstances - and hence the ruling.
what other sites can you possibly look at for movie questions than imdb.com or wikipedia...
Rules are rules, be harsh on Redbag to lose after he thought he had won.
Void Q sounds right imo.
Void Q sounds right imo.
Jockay as explained under the quiz rules the goal cannot be awarded to Gleeman after the game as there was no challenge at the time.
Quizzers should challenge if they believe they have got something correct and that the official answer is wrong.
However it is clear that Redbag's goal shouldn't have stood, and it is clear the entire question (not just that bit of it) was a right balls up.
Therefore the game will continue at 0-0 as stated.
Quizzers should challenge if they believe they have got something correct and that the official answer is wrong.
However it is clear that Redbag's goal shouldn't have stood, and it is clear the entire question (not just that bit of it) was a right balls up.
Therefore the game will continue at 0-0 as stated.
OK fair enough Lozzy - expect me to challenge EVERY time i get a question previously then.
I don't mind winning on a technicality the next day ;)
I don't mind winning on a technicality the next day ;)
Sparky - if there is a challenge the match is HELD while the ref looks into it. Once the game over that is it and in most circumstances if there is a challenge after the game the result stands regardless. Players need to challenge at the time.
However in this case the question was such a disaster, the error was noted by a bystander as soon as he saw it and to award the goal to Redbag in the face of the correct facts would be completely unfair, especially in a knockout cup game where it affected the result, and that's why the question has to be voided and a new one asked.
However in this case the question was such a disaster, the error was noted by a bystander as soon as he saw it and to award the goal to Redbag in the face of the correct facts would be completely unfair, especially in a knockout cup game where it affected the result, and that's why the question has to be voided and a new one asked.
a vital error has been made in the match ......
NOT picked up (by a spectator) until just after the match had finished ...so The Match referee has taken a valid decision in Voiding the question and then another Valid decision in Not awarding the match to Gleeman ..
He did so as soon as seen and obviously in the hope the 2 players were still in the Stadium ..
Redbag sportingly offered the chance for Gleeman to go through ...and that WAS sporting of him and in the best tradition of the Leagues ...and ALL credit to him ....
There are arguments FOR both players positions ...
But in the face of the error , another Question giving BOTH players a chance is the fairest option ...and I hope players can see that ...I am sure Both match players will ...
...Lozzy acted right to recover the situation ...the error was there ...the ruling followed guidelines to be classed as a voided Q.....Good Luck to BOTH players who both remain in the Competition currently ...
NOT picked up (by a spectator) until just after the match had finished ...so The Match referee has taken a valid decision in Voiding the question and then another Valid decision in Not awarding the match to Gleeman ..
He did so as soon as seen and obviously in the hope the 2 players were still in the Stadium ..
Redbag sportingly offered the chance for Gleeman to go through ...and that WAS sporting of him and in the best tradition of the Leagues ...and ALL credit to him ....
There are arguments FOR both players positions ...
But in the face of the error , another Question giving BOTH players a chance is the fairest option ...and I hope players can see that ...I am sure Both match players will ...
...Lozzy acted right to recover the situation ...the error was there ...the ruling followed guidelines to be classed as a voided Q.....Good Luck to BOTH players who both remain in the Competition currently ...
after above post to reiterate position :-
Lozzy 16 Jan 22:21
Therefore the result is rescinded and stands at 0-0, and the game will continue with one GK multi question when both quizzers can play. Should this not be got, the game would continue to extra time.
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Lozzy 16 Jan 22:21
Therefore the result is rescinded and stands at 0-0, and the game will continue with one GK multi question when both quizzers can play. Should this not be got, the game would continue to extra time.
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Bearing in mind that Glee didn't complain and the error was only spotted because jockay noticed, then I think it would be unfair on Redbag if he lost the game. Void question a fair result imo. For Glee anything will be a bonus.
I should be here most of the day for this match to be resumed when both quizzers can make it. it may last 30 seconds, but who knows it could turn out to be a several question extra time thriller !
again a no-win situation for the Admin team but all credit to them as i feel this is the best solution
Cedar this is why we have guidelines in place for this kind of eventuality, but the ultimate discretion is always that of the match referee - although he is entitled if unsure to refer to the admin team for a vote.
One of the questions was messed up due to incorrect information on an internet site. A goal was awarded and Jockay spotted that the official answer was incorrect virtually as soon as I blew the full time whistle. I checked and he was right. The goal has therefore been disallowed and the game will resume with a new question. Gleeman had left the forum by the time so we couldnt continue last night, but both players have been informed via email.
I have only just logged on for the first time since the match.
I agree with the official decision to ask another question - the original one was clearly wrong, but I don't think I should be given the point.
It's an unfortunate situation but sh1t happens.
I agree with the official decision to ask another question - the original one was clearly wrong, but I don't think I should be given the point.
It's an unfortunate situation but sh1t happens.
Morning Gleeman. Apologies again for the disastrous question.
What time suits you Gleeman to continue ? Redbag knows about the decision and said he'd look in today.
What time suits you Gleeman to continue ? Redbag knows about the decision and said he'd look in today.
I am about this afternnon until approx. 6.00, and then from 8-10.30.
I will keep looking in.
I will keep looking in.
Just read the thread from the start without knowing what was to come, a more than fair outcome imo under the circumstances.
Lozzy should have his quizmaster status revoked
shocking to ask questions without double checking answers, common sense should have flagged up that 4 hours 23 mins for that film was just stupid.
That is all i have to say on the matter
shocking to ask questions without double checking answers, common sense should have flagged up that 4 hours 23 mins for that film was just stupid.
That is all i have to say on the matter
A1 Bionic is your life really that devoid of interest that you need to go around stirring up hornet's nests ? Both quizzers recognise that errors are occasionally made and they are both happy to continue the game later. I will go when I lose the confidence of the quizzers, not nobodies like you.
Another example where technology should be brought in. A second quizmaster with the advantage of replays would have picked this up in-play. Will spectators be refunded for the void match?
Myself and JJ do go over each other's questions prior to matches in this cup but with this one if neither of us had seen the film in question we naturally wouldn't query it as thinking that the website was incorrect.
I was amazed to hear A Beautiful Mind was 4hrs 23 mins :0 , but never having seen it couldn't have argued (without checking it up)
However i would deffo have been posting HOLD if i'd been playing for questions 3 and 6:
How could someone co-write a play with Shakespeare in 1654 when he had died in 1616??
As for the end of the middle ages , there is no agreement whatever amongst historians . The Fall of Constantinople i have never heard given as the end before ( though you could make a case for it , it didn't really transform the way people lived at the time ) .The Battle of Bosworth (which Gleeman went for), and the consequent beginning of Tudor England , is certainly often cited as the end of Medieval England .But more generally the significant events that ended the middle ages are either Columbus discovery of the New World or France's invasion of Italy in 1494 (with the sort of weaponry that made medieval type warfare obsolete) . Often people simply use the date of 1500 as a cut off point , but whatever they do it is usually 1480+.
However i would deffo have been posting HOLD if i'd been playing for questions 3 and 6:
How could someone co-write a play with Shakespeare in 1654 when he had died in 1616??
As for the end of the middle ages , there is no agreement whatever amongst historians . The Fall of Constantinople i have never heard given as the end before ( though you could make a case for it , it didn't really transform the way people lived at the time ) .The Battle of Bosworth (which Gleeman went for), and the consequent beginning of Tudor England , is certainly often cited as the end of Medieval England .But more generally the significant events that ended the middle ages are either Columbus discovery of the New World or France's invasion of Italy in 1494 (with the sort of weaponry that made medieval type warfare obsolete) . Often people simply use the date of 1500 as a cut off point , but whatever they do it is usually 1480+.
I dunno Tobes. Maybe Fletcher wrote half of it - then died - Bill found it in the attic when he moved in to Fletcher's old gaff and finished it orf.
Ok. Well the other way round then. Bill's great unfinished work which Fletcher found at a boot sale and added a bit to it. You never know, it could have happened like that :)
A Beautiful Mind just seems like it's 4 hours long because it's so sh!t.
If the same situation arose in my game and I was in redbag's shoes, I would insist that gleeman went through - which tbf he has offered. Both players been very sporting about it - the law is an ass imo.
And I mean it - if it happens in my game I'd forfeit rather than play on at 0-0 when I should rightfully have lost.
If the same situation arose in my game and I was in redbag's shoes, I would insist that gleeman went through - which tbf he has offered. Both players been very sporting about it - the law is an ass imo.
And I mean it - if it happens in my game I'd forfeit rather than play on at 0-0 when I should rightfully have lost.
But half the Qs were VOID!
Has to be a replay
I always say that if someone gives what has been pre-set as the 'correct' answer , then they should not lose on that Q , should just be voided .
Has to be a replay
I always say that if someone gives what has been pre-set as the 'correct' answer , then they should not lose on that Q , should just be voided .
Has anyone checked to see if A Beautiful Mind was the longest of that bunch?
Its a great film BTW and one of my favourites.
Its a great film BTW and one of my favourites.
There was only one question in this quiz which was dubious and where a goal was scored. It was rightly disallowed after the game and the game will continue later with a replacement question, then extra time if no goal is scored.
according to wiki the shakespeare question is fair enough - though it was published in 1634
I never disputed the guy co-wrote it but should have been asked as 'published in 1634' rather than 'the 1654 play' , which makes you think it was written that year, and start thinking of people who were alive at the time
cheers tobes
pos ..
we are working on questions + things for League in background ..takes time to keep stopping and answering "possibles" ..ta
pos ..
we are working on questions + things for League in background ..takes time to keep stopping and answering "possibles" ..ta
I can ref Gleeman v Redbag anytime in the next 20 mins... got a different game to ref at 9pm, so itll have to be 9.30 if not soon.
OK BOYS STAND BY....
we will continue... the score is 0-0 after 5 questions
Q4 was messed up as you know so a new one will be asked. Whoever gets it will win. If nobody does, then extra time....
we will continue... the score is 0-0 after 5 questions
Q4 was messed up as you know so a new one will be asked. Whoever gets it will win. If nobody does, then extra time....
30 seconds to question 4 - a MULTI A-F on GENERAL KNOWLEDGE...
Q4. (multi choice A-F) - The Moroccan dish "R'fisa" is prepared with the main ingredient being which of the following ?
(a) Beef, (b) Chicken, (c) Fish, (d) Fruit, (e) Lamb, (f) Lentils
(a) Beef, (b) Chicken, (c) Fish, (d) Fruit, (e) Lamb, (f) Lentils
FINAL 90 MINUTES SCORELINE
GLEEMAN 0-0 REDBAG
The match therefore moves to extra time golden goal.
Up to 3 standard GK questions will be asked. None of them will be on LITERATURE or BELIEFS. The first quizzer to get a goal is the winner.
If after these 3 questions there is still no goal, we move to 'nearest to' questions...
Please type OK if you are ready...
GLEEMAN 0-0 REDBAG
The match therefore moves to extra time golden goal.
Up to 3 standard GK questions will be asked. None of them will be on LITERATURE or BELIEFS. The first quizzer to get a goal is the winner.
If after these 3 questions there is still no goal, we move to 'nearest to' questions...
Please type OK if you are ready...
Q. A dispute over the throne of which European territory was the trigger for the start of the Franco-Prussian War in 1871 ?
Spread on how many more questions before there is a winner.....
2.4-2.7
(no offence red and glee, just know these questions are difficult)
2.4-2.7
(no offence red and glee, just know these questions are difficult)
Q)...(FULL NAME REQUIRED) -
Which actor played Lord Percy in the Blackadder comedy series ?
Which actor played Lord Percy in the Blackadder comedy series ?
wd glee. didn't mean to post just before question, my apologies.
ul red.
ul red.
GOLDEN GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!
A. TIM MCINERNEY
FINAL SCORE - GLEEMAN 1-0 REDBAG (aet)
GLEEMAN wins the match in extra time. REDBAG was close to pulling off an upset in a great game over 2 nights.
This game might have been 0-0 but will be remembered Im sure !
Well done Gleeman. Unlucky Redbag.
See you in round 2 Glee and the Cola League Redbag. :-)
A. TIM MCINERNEY
FINAL SCORE - GLEEMAN 1-0 REDBAG (aet)
GLEEMAN wins the match in extra time. REDBAG was close to pulling off an upset in a great game over 2 nights.
This game might have been 0-0 but will be remembered Im sure !
Well done Gleeman. Unlucky Redbag.
See you in round 2 Glee and the Cola League Redbag. :-)
tbf glee deserved it after yesterdays error..good luck mate in the next round
cheers lozzy for reffing
cheers lozzy for reffing
Not the best game in the comp. - but I bet it will be the longest!
A very very close match there ..
Unlucky redbag
a GOOD winner Gleeman , glad it was a good question / answer that won this tie...
Good luck in your next round
the only one of the 4 admin players playing today ..to win :0
Unlucky redbag
a GOOD winner Gleeman , glad it was a good question / answer that won this tie...
Good luck in your next round
the only one of the 4 admin players playing today ..to win :0
a Good sport Redbag ...see you in the League Season :-)
Thanks guys
We all now know what it is like setting questions -some are easy because you already know the answer, but some you have to look up -and if the source is wrong you can be truly stuffed!
We all now know what it is like setting questions -some are easy because you already know the answer, but some you have to look up -and if the source is wrong you can be truly stuffed!
gleeman 17 Jan 20:44
Not the best game in the comp. - but I bet it will be the longest!
You missed CHAD COLLINS v MAN OF MANY MOODS earlier
They had 11 questions to sort it :)
Not the best game in the comp. - but I bet it will be the longest!
You missed CHAD COLLINS v MAN OF MANY MOODS earlier
They had 11 questions to sort it :)
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